Well, I understand you OP. Me and about 27 people I know cancelled this last week. Once of the guilds I was in (more than 300 members) use to have around 75-80 in the guild rooster. This last 2 weeks just me and 2 or 3 more were online. Today just me.

I'm not joking. I was not playing sice 4 days ago and today I have seen an enormous lack of people while playing. Seriously, I cancelled my sub (ending 7 august) and I can't see ressubing if they don't fix VR and make them as good as 1-50 and make them all new and not just recycled and with that lazy design.

I'm just really afraid of this massive cancelling of subs.

Just for your info, im a hardcore TES fan sinde Daggerfall, with thousands of hours to every TES game since then.

It is a shame we are losing good people, it will hurt us all in the long run. Feel your pain take care..

Dear OP. I understand you are upset your other thread has been locked because it was a goodbye thread. But please for the love of god, do you really think that anyone cares why you left? I understand you are trying to make a point in this thread saying that Zenimax does not communicate and it is a grind at vet ranks.

But please stop spamming the forum with your threads. It would be more helpful to just write a short thread what has to be improved rather than a lengthy explanations of you leaving.

Have fun in wildstar. Maybe it can give you what you have looked at although I found it to be a much bigger grind than this.

You not left yet ?

welcome to mmo's at least there is no server merges. Personally i think zenimax planned for a post launch summer lull with the launch of wildstar and other games to contend with. They using this time to improve the game and they have lot of work to do they just have to keep it ticking over until the console release. An mmo at launch is extended beta really so if it's not for you then i'll see you in 6 months.

Fact is goodbye threads, whining and crying won't make much difference to zenimax's release schedule. It will be ready when it's ready, when they do this is pretty much upto them as they're a private company. we're not shareholders we're customers and are governed by a code of conduct and a user agreement.

On console release they will go big probably with thieves guild and dark brotherhood at launch.

On the veteran grind it's not that bad really just do the almanac quests and then do the rest of the stuff you were going to do anyway. Dungeons, pvp and grind in craglorn. Make friends while playing and you'll find there is usually a group going through doing map objectives, dolmens, world bosses and public dungeons.

On the subject of difficulty it is hard and not for everybody and certain classes and builds just aren't viable. I'm destro/restro dk dps so it a bit easier than is it for others but this what started off with. But they say they working on this as well as fixing bugs and stuff.

Today for example i was killing storm atronach's to get cores at vr10 5 dead no cores. So i moved on, i accept that stuff like this is a gamebreaker. PVP is a buggy mess as well i did pvp yesterday it blue screened my pc and broke my internet. Im' not going anywhere near cyrodill i need a pc for the work and can't afford downtime.

I respect your opinion and hope that it contributes to pressure on zenimax to fix things.

BTW can i have your stuff

claytonjhouserb14_ESO wrote: »

The game started off amazing, something I've never felt in a mmo. The world was fantastic and I built my character just the way I wanted. I ran into many buggy quest but waited with patience for a fix because I felt it was worth the wait. Then VR hit me.......like a *** truck.

There is more lore behind my little pony than the reason for me trading colors to the enemy side to help them. The game turns into a grinidy redicilous slogfest.

On top of this, ZOS salts the wound with tiny hotfixes that usually cause an even larger issue than before and never respond to any forum post. Their silence is what pushed me to ending my sub.

The game started off amazing but their taking it in a direction that a niche can not even fill. I've played ES games since 2003 and it saddens me to let it go but if the developers can't show signs of fixing their faults I don't see a reason to stay.

If i do quit Farewell my Elder Scrolls brother I hope to someday see this game a shining star in the mmo world but for now its far from what it should be. What it was promised to be.

I just hope they sson fix bugs and find out what direction they want to head and figure it out fast before it is too late.

Hey, you left out a paragraph from your locked thread; about how wildstar has their **** together and everything. Did you really have to post the same thing again?

What do you think needs to be done?I see no examples you gave

Plus dying with grace is over rated. I would like to see this game succeed, I really do, I just want to get their attention before it is too late.

Stratti wrote: »

I'm over these people. They complain the game isn't fun at vet or they don't like it. They haven't conquered the Dungeouns , the haven't worked on the main quest line. They haven't learnt how to kill a pack of mobs effectively . They haven't cleared the solo Dungeouns or cleared the public ones. They haven't downed the world bosses or dolmens . Instead they complain about the 'grind' a grind is only an issue if it prevents you entering end game and the path is repetitive and locked in. With so many ways to get vp including Craiglorn you are tripping if you think it's a grind.

What I am really hearing is these people are not really good at MMO and they have never been challenged . COD babies

Actually, if you read the OP's thread closely, he never said goodbye and never said he is leaving, he said is MAY leave by saying "IF i leave"...

Secondly, my main character did everything by the book, read every single bookshelf, all shards, all dungeons, everything and nothing skipped not even a single NPC dialouge, heck he even talked to every NPC in every town/village/city before moving on (just like in Oblivion and Skyrim). He dies 15+ times to do one thing before moving to the next zone.

Honestly? I am in the exact same boat as the OP. How do you know the OP, myself and other players did not do "everything"? Can you see his achievments? can you see what he did?

You like the game and you are sticking to it, i recpect that and i leave it be. When other people do not like it, to charge into them claiming this and that....really? are you a real fan? real fans do not say what you said.

Best of luck to you!

Im staying but only to catch idiots and video them in the act... Gotta have a hobby!

Stratti wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Stratti wrote: »

I'm over these people. They complain the game isn't fun at vet or they don't like it. They haven't conquered the Dungeouns , the haven't worked on the main quest line. They haven't learnt how to kill a pack of mobs effectively . They haven't cleared the solo Dungeouns or cleared the public ones. They haven't downed the world bosses or dolmens . Instead they complain about the 'grind' a grind is only an issue if it prevents you entering end game and the path is repetitive and locked in. With so many ways to get vp including Craiglorn you are tripping if you think it's a grind.

What I am really hearing is these people are not really good at MMO and they have never been challenged . COD babies

Actually, if you read the OP's thread closely, he never said goodbye and never said he is leaving, he said is MAY leave by saying "IF i leave"...

Secondly, my main character did everything by the book, read every single bookshelf, all shards, all dungeons, everything and nothing skipped not even a single NPC dialouge, heck he even talked to every NPC in every town/village/city before moving on (just like in Oblivion and Skyrim). He dies 15+ times to do one thing before moving to the next zone.

Honestly? I am in the exact same boat as the OP. How do you know the OP, myself and other players did not do "everything"? Can you see his achievments? can you see what he did?

You like the game and you are sticking to it, i recpect that and i leave it be. When other people do not like it, to charge into them claiming this and that....really? are you a real fan? real fans do not say what you said.

Did you complete cadwells journal
All the solo dungeons
All the public dungeons
All the vet dungeons
All the dolmens and world bosses
And have a go at trials

If so the. You have experienced the game and are in position to leave because it hasn't got the content you want.

Sounds to me like some people did every last quest , tried a dungeon and failed, grouped up and grinded the levels out quickly then went to more difficult content a poor player

If someone dies 15+ times then they are sadly a poor player and need to improve or quit . Simple. If people don't want to improve then that is their issue not the games. Maybe the game isn't for them and a game like WoW with the welfare epics etc is more for them

Of course its a leaving thread.

claytonjhouserb14_ESO wrote: »

Farewell my Elder Scrolls brother I hope to someday see this game a shining star in the mmo world but for now its far from what it should be. What it was promised to be.

I just hope they sson fix bugs and find out what direction they want to head and figure it out fast before it is too late.

Stratti wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Stratti wrote: »

I'm over these people. They complain the game isn't fun at vet or they don't like it. They haven't conquered the Dungeouns , the haven't worked on the main quest line. They haven't learnt how to kill a pack of mobs effectively . They haven't cleared the solo Dungeouns or cleared the public ones. They haven't downed the world bosses or dolmens . Instead they complain about the 'grind' a grind is only an issue if it prevents you entering end game and the path is repetitive and locked in. With so many ways to get vp including Craiglorn you are tripping if you think it's a grind.

What I am really hearing is these people are not really good at MMO and they have never been challenged . COD babies

Actually, if you read the OP's thread closely, he never said goodbye and never said he is leaving, he said is MAY leave by saying "IF i leave"...

Secondly, my main character did everything by the book, read every single bookshelf, all shards, all dungeons, everything and nothing skipped not even a single NPC dialouge, heck he even talked to every NPC in every town/village/city before moving on (just like in Oblivion and Skyrim). He dies 15+ times to do one thing before moving to the next zone.

Honestly? I am in the exact same boat as the OP. How do you know the OP, myself and other players did not do "everything"? Can you see his achievments? can you see what he did?

You like the game and you are sticking to it, i recpect that and i leave it be. When other people do not like it, to charge into them claiming this and that....really? are you a real fan? real fans do not say what you said.

Did you complete cadwells journal
All the solo dungeons
All the public dungeons
All the vet dungeons
All the dolmens and world bosses
And have a go at trials

If so the. You have experienced the game and are in position to leave because it hasn't got the content you want.

Sounds to me like some people did every last quest , tried a dungeon and failed, grouped up and grinded the levels out quickly then went to more difficult content a poor player

If someone dies 15+ times then they are sadly a poor player and need to improve or quit . Simple. If people don't want to improve then that is their issue not the games. Maybe the game isn't for them and a game like WoW with the welfare epics etc is more for them

Did you complete cadwells journal - Yes
All the solo dungeons - Yes - and all skyshards
All the public dungeons - All I could do. VR9 and VR10 zones were so desolate not enough people werte around to do them... so correction, I am missing 2 skyshards.
All the vet dungeons - All but 1, again can't find enough people motivated to do it.
All the dolmens and world bosses - Just about all, again, none in VR9 and 10 due to ghost town zones.
And have a go at trials - Never tried them, but I have never once said this game is boring, a grind, or nothing to do, so this one is irrelevant.

And for your FYI - I also did all quests in Cyrodiil and have my Tamriel Hero title.

And I love all this so much that I level the three other classes, all three of which I have in VR right now.

But I hate upper VR, and refuse to take those three any higher than VR6. I simply hated it.

I saw your other obnoxious thread making all kinds of highly uneducated guesses and assumptions about people. Why do you assume everyone was trained in WoW? Then you start with the L2P type comments... I mean really kid, I have no doubt i can school you in every corned of thise game and you'll feel obligated to pay me $10.

So take your rude ass assumptions, and your snide L2P comments, and you have a pretty good idea where to shove them. Now off with you, it's getting close to your bed time.

Can I have your stuff?

I am amazed an "I quit" thread isn't locked yet.

yoo hoo

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Haewk wrote: »

Stratti wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Stratti wrote: »

I'm over these people. They complain the game isn't fun at vet or they don't like it. They haven't conquered the Dungeouns , the haven't worked on the main quest line. They haven't learnt how to kill a pack of mobs effectively . They haven't cleared the solo Dungeouns or cleared the public ones. They haven't downed the world bosses or dolmens . Instead they complain about the 'grind' a grind is only an issue if it prevents you entering end game and the path is repetitive and locked in. With so many ways to get vp including Craiglorn you are tripping if you think it's a grind.

What I am really hearing is these people are not really good at MMO and they have never been challenged . COD babies

Actually, if you read the OP's thread closely, he never said goodbye and never said he is leaving, he said is MAY leave by saying "IF i leave"...

Secondly, my main character did everything by the book, read every single bookshelf, all shards, all dungeons, everything and nothing skipped not even a single NPC dialouge, heck he even talked to every NPC in every town/village/city before moving on (just like in Oblivion and Skyrim). He dies 15+ times to do one thing before moving to the next zone.

Honestly? I am in the exact same boat as the OP. How do you know the OP, myself and other players did not do "everything"? Can you see his achievments? can you see what he did?

You like the game and you are sticking to it, i recpect that and i leave it be. When other people do not like it, to charge into them claiming this and that....really? are you a real fan? real fans do not say what you said.

Did you complete cadwells journal
All the solo dungeons
All the public dungeons
All the vet dungeons
All the dolmens and world bosses
And have a go at trials

If so the. You have experienced the game and are in position to leave because it hasn't got the content you want.

Sounds to me like some people did every last quest , tried a dungeon and failed, grouped up and grinded the levels out quickly then went to more difficult content a poor player

If someone dies 15+ times then they are sadly a poor player and need to improve or quit . Simple. If people don't want to improve then that is their issue not the games. Maybe the game isn't for them and a game like WoW with the welfare epics etc is more for them

All the dolmens? You mean if I did only a few I didn't experience them all?

Well there are a few after I finished them, I'm pretty sure Molag was hitting on me.

I admire your tenacity.