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I’m concerned about hitting VR.
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Brayton✭✭If you want to get to V12 as quickly as possible, don't go to the other alliances. If you want to enjoy the quests in the other areas and explore new builds and tactics, go to the other alliances.
When I first hit the veteran areas, I was disheartened by the sudden increase in difficulty, but after I reworked my build and got in some crowd control, it became much more exciting and fun.
I think it depends on whether you just want to take it easy or not. I've read a lot of comments from people who call the vet areas a grind, but seeing as the other areas are part of a quest that you will probably accept, it fits nicely into the scheme of things.
If you just want to level your character in no time, the vet areas are probably not for you. But, hey, I love PvE, so who's counting XP?0 -
Raash✭✭✭✭Rev Rielle wrote: »
There's a lot of negativity about VR content at the moment, but the vast majority of it is simply unfounded. So worry not! Remember you always must be extremely critical of what you hear on forums from other players, for more often than not it's by the vocal minority.
ah yes, the great prophet and mastermind that know opionions of the unknown have spoken! You know nothing about anything of what any other player think and even less what other groups of players think about this game so please stop refer to majority and minority as if it would be some kind of truth.
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ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭Rev Rielle wrote: »
There's a lot of negativity about VR content at the moment, but the vast majority of it is simply unfounded. So worry not! Remember you always must be extremely critical of what you hear on forums from other players, for more often than not it's by the vocal minority.
ah yes, the great prophet and mastermind that know opionions of the unknown have spoken! You know nothing about anything of what any other player think and even less what other groups of players think about this game so please stop refer to majority and minority as if it would be some kind of truth.
No really is is right though, The forum community is a very small group of mostly whiners and complainers who want everything handed to them.>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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DigitalHype✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »Depends.
As for your Templar, atm is better in VR content than it was last week. You might need to do a respec, adapt your build to the difficulties you are going to face.
(FYI My main is a Khajiit Templar)
My main is also a Khajiit Templar. Since 1.2.3, NPCs break CC in VR, and become temporarily immune. Trash mobs, in groups of 3, are difficult to handle now. To my knowledge, Zen hasn't commented on this behavior change (bug or intended).
There were improvements to Templar. Unfortunately, not in the skill line's I've mastered. Overall, for me it has become worse, not better.
Regarding the OP's questions. Yes, they are valid concerns. But, they should not sway you from at least attempting VR zones. I would not be worried about being wanted in groups. As long as you aren't reckless, you can still contribute. If you haven't spec'd heal skills. Start doing that now. You can always off-heal. Templar heals can make all the difference in those "oh [snip]" times, when things start to go sideways.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_LeroyW on June 29, 2014 4:41PM0 -
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✭✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »Rev Rielle wrote: »
There's a lot of negativity about VR content at the moment, but the vast majority of it is simply unfounded. So worry not! Remember you always must be extremely critical of what you hear on forums from other players, for more often than not it's by the vocal minority.
ah yes, the great prophet and mastermind that know opionions of the unknown have spoken! You know nothing about anything of what any other player think and even less what other groups of players think about this game so please stop refer to majority and minority as if it would be some kind of truth.
No really is is right though, The forum community is a very small group of mostly whiners and complainers who want everything handed to them.
In the past with other games I would have partially agreed with that. But no other game I have played besides swtor had so many people jumping ship.
Veteren zones are dead. There is no denying this. By the time you get to V8 it is like pulling teeth trying to get a dolmen group. And honestly, most of the rage I see on this forum is directed at people that come here to discuss obvious issues. Pretending everything is fine won't change the fact that vet zones are dead and rosters are overflowing with inactive accounts.
Discussion and feedback will.
That being said though, there is a fair chance that the OP will enjoy VR zones just fine. But please don't sugar coat the issues.
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✭Alphashado wrote: »Rev Rielle wrote: »UnholyPerfection wrote: »ESO is the most fun I’ve had playing a video game in a very long time. I love the game mechanics, the story, the presentation, the graphics, playing solo and grouping with people for dungeons and just randomly while questing. I am a level 42 Templar S&B tank and I have had an absolute blast up until this point.
However I am genuinely concerned about how my enjoyment will be effected once I hit VR. I have heard that it turns into a grind fest, which is very difficult for someone to solo and even more so for a Templar and especially Tank speced. Also tanking dungeons is (and always has been in other MMO’s) one of my favourite things to do in ESO and what worries me more is that I’ve heard that Templar tanks are just not wanted in groups.
Are these valid concerns or am I putting too much faith in the vocal % of the players?
In the end it won’t be the end of my ESO time is this is the case (at least not immediately). I will just roll alts until things are changed or the difficulty/balance are tweaked or I will find someone to level with.
There's a lot of negativity about VR content at the moment, but the vast majority of it is simply unfounded. So worry not! Remember you always must be extremely critical of what you hear on forums from other players, for more often than not it's by the vocal minority.
Thankfully, everything you stated that you enjoy in your opening paragraph hardly changes one little bit when you reach VR content. If those things are truly important to you you'll actually find VR content to just as enjoyable, if not more so, than before. Yes the enemies are less forgiving in battle if you don't block their blockable attacks, don't interrupt them, or don't move out of that pool of fire you're standing in. And yes, Veteran dungeons in a similar way are significantly more challenging, but that is as it should be. If you have any small semblance of skill and you know how to actually react to enemies in combat you will be more than fine.
On the whole, the actual experience of VR content hardly resembles what some people on the forums here go on about. I'd simply suggest you experience it for yourself with an open mind.
What is interesting though is that for every one person saying they enjoy it, there are two that say they don't.
Those aren't good numbers for success no matter how you spin it. In the end, it's all a matter of personal taste. Unfortunately there is no middle ground here. Either you like it or you don't. And most that don't are leaving.
The reality is that the majority of people that enjoy it are playing the game, not spending time on the forums. It's becoming more widely known that forums are often places players go to vent their problems/frustrations, compared to the alternative.If you can be anything, be kind.0 -
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✭Rev Rielle wrote: »
There's a lot of negativity about VR content at the moment, but the vast majority of it is simply unfounded. So worry not! Remember you always must be extremely critical of what you hear on forums from other players, for more often than not it's by the vocal minority.
ah yes, the great prophet and mastermind that know opionions of the unknown have spoken! You know nothing about anything of what any other player think and even less what other groups of players think about this game so please stop refer to majority and minority as if it would be some kind of truth.
Oddly enough in that retort of yours you actually hit on some truth. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Why? Read on.
It's for that very reason (that we don't know) why I can say with certainty that the negativity about VR content often found on the forums is unfounded simply due to the fact that it's come from the vast minority. There are far more people online playing ESO than there are on the forums. Anyone that can add up can see the forums are frequented by the minority. Furthermore it's known that forums these days are frequented on the whole more by those whom are unhappy with things as opposed to those that are happy.
I think you've become a bit of a victim of taking what's said on the forums as verbatim to the truth. You should probably stop reading what you see on the forums and actually play the game; you'll find things quite different than how they're painted here by some.If you can be anything, be kind.0 -
Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »
Thrown daggers is one of the ridiculously overpowered abilities that NPCs in every VR zone use. This issue persists. I am VR 8 atm and just yesterday I ran into a questing area full of bandits using throwing daggers that hit like a lightning bolt from Zeus. 800-900 dmg each time w/o fail. We are supposed to block or dodge these of course, but that is easier said than done when you have two other melee bandits swinging at you for 400-800 damage each. Kinda funny how a warrior in your face swinging a giant 2H sword at you does 400-800 damage, while some bandit running away throwing a puny dagger at you hits for 900 dmg each time.
The thrown daggers are over tuned and need to be addressed.
You soon develop a priority list in your head of things you really should not get hit by. Thrown daggers is at the top and I'm always watching for that animations. Its actually quite well telegraphed because the arm raised animation before throwing takes a couple of seconds. I cloak as soon as I see this and even if the dagger is in flight, if I cloak before it reaches me it does no damage. Too many people have an expectation to be able to tank the damage in vet content because they could 1 to 50. You can't. Your whole play style should be around not getting hit at all and mitigating any that does get through.
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ForTheRealm✭✭✭UnholyPerfection wrote: »ESO is the most fun I’ve had playing a video game in a very long time. I love the game mechanics, the story, the presentation, the graphics, playing solo and grouping with people for dungeons and just randomly while questing. I am a level 42 Templar S&B tank and I have had an absolute blast up until this point.
However I am genuinely concerned about how my enjoyment will be effected once I hit VR. I have heard that it turns into a grind fest, which is very difficult for someone to solo and even more so for a Templar and especially Tank speced. Also tanking dungeons is (and always has been in other MMO’s) one of my favourite things to do in ESO and what worries me more is that I’ve heard that Templar tanks are just not wanted in groups.
Are these valid concerns or am I putting too much faith in the vocal % of the players?
In the end it won’t be the end of my ESO time is this is the case (at least not immediately). I will just roll alts until things are changed or the difficulty/balance are tweaked or I will find someone to level with.
If you like the levelling experience below level 50, my advise would be: when you hit 50 make another alt in another faction and level it up to 50.
In a meantime there is a chance ZoS will find out how to make better options for veteran levelling.
But... I am an altoholic and my opinion might be biased ;-)
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