I did some tweaking today and i think I've found the problem, I'm able to run eso on ultra settings, no random "fixed" code in and settings or any other rubbish. I'm running all anti virus / multiple web pages with the launcher loaded as well as writing this post with eso in the background ..

The only thing I did was turn Sub Sampleing quality off. (again all other settings are on ultra).

Subsampleing tool tip -
Determines the resolution in which the game will render the world. The interface is not affected by this setting. Decreasing the quality may help improve performance.

This however seems to be the one setting that makes the game run at high rez so with it off it looks like a 10 year old game at 480p or worse.

I hope this helps anyone with this issue. & Devs / admin plz fix this

@Calorath Soul Shriven

I'm not saying its the code killing all systems..
I'm saying it is effecting far to many systems in the same small time frame that's its almost statistically impossible to be a hardware problem.

I mean what are the odds that 100's (if not way way more) of pc's, most less than a year old all ran out of thermal paste at the same time.. just after a patch..?

and for the record I've already tryed your advise on everything apart from renewing my thermal paste.

Code isn't made for computers. In the Windows world, your code is targetted for the platform, not for a specific piece of hardware. This is where Windows has a good thing. Take for example Windows 7 64bit. If your code is compiled to run on Windows 7 64bit, then it will run on ANY hardware that Windows 7 64bit will run on. Nobody writes code for this model video card or that model video card. You'd have games with gigs and gigs of libraries due to the monster amount of cards out there. Instead, they use OpenGL or DirectX. Again, DirectX is what interfaces with your hardware, not the ESO executable. In other words, if you blame a graphics issue on the game, you do not understand how this stuff works. All a game does is call the API of choice (GL/DX) and tell it where to draw triangles, what textures to use, lighting, fog, etc, and the API does the work and interfaces with you driver, not the actual card. So the closest ESO gets to actually interfacing with your video hardware is about three levels above the hardware level.

App->Video API->OS->Driver->Video Card

I do not know of ANY modern application that directly controls hardware. Probably because you cannot control it anymore, unlike the days of DOS. In modern Windows, the OS gets control and applications interface with the OS, whether through an API or directly through the OS. Due to this, there is little ZOS can do to fix your individual card. On top of that, I will bet that either a Windows update or a graphics driver update was released close enough to the ESO patch that the blame is being falsely spread. I mean seriously, basic logic dictates that if the game was coded to render in a way that would bring up the temps on one card, it would affect all cards.

Assume the problem is due to it rendering every polygon twice, so you're under a heavy load at all times. In other words, whatever object or function renders the scene is being called twice. If the code says "draw it twice", that is the same code I have and plenty of others have also. Why are our setups handling it fine? Especially my old clunker! Claiming that the code in ESO changes to cause high heat on only your systems would be crazy, right? So you have a choice. Admit that we are all running the SAME code, and the problem is on your end, or believe that you somehow have a different build than us, and you genuinely have an issue. Even then, your graphics API shouldn't allow the game code to render more than what your card can handle or anything else of the sort.

Did I mention that I have been doing cross-platform OpenGL programming since 1994? I know a little bit about 3D programming under Windows and Linux. I don't want you thinking I am talking out of my hind-quarters.

*UPDATE*

Here are two screenshots of my settings, just created, on my Pentium D system. Again, I average about 30fps.

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@killabunny1234b16_ESO‌

Frankly you are wasting both time and energy. They genuinely refuse to accept what you are telling them. That it is not a hardware malfunction, or a issue with the system drivers. I have swapped out drivers, and inspected my hardware. I have run repairs, deleted files, checked files, fiddled with settings, and I am no closer to a real lasting solution then I was at the start.

I am literally down to desperate last ditch efforts at this point. I am going to just delete the game and download it all over again. Maybe that will resolve this big pain in my rear. If that doesn't work I will just have to concede defeat.

One little thing I'd like to add about addons, you actually have to remove the folder/files in which the addon was contained. I had esohead, and had crashes back when the game launched, and massive FPS drops/freezes.

After I removed the addon-on, some files/folders from esohead were still left over, and as soon as I removed those manually, the game worked without crashes, and a lot less mini freeze

Hello again...try uninstall all GPU soft...driver to...and install GPU drivers ONLY....cya

Thx for the advise, I uninstalled all Nvidia drivers via the control panel, then reinstalled only the graphics driver (clean install).
But I ran into a problem. After I uninstalled the drivers it asked me to restart, and as soon as I logged on it installed the old windows drivers (just graphics drivers).
I then installed just the latest graphics driver 337.88 with a clean install and the screen went black (like is should when updating the gpu driver.. but it did not come back on.. i waited 5-10 mins then had to restart my pc, the driver did not complete and i had to do it again.
I'm not sure if this is part of my problem?
But after all that it installed the 337.88 driver and tested the game it had no effect.

note when i said "clean my pc" i meant clean the dust from the inside of the case. using a compressed air can

Try using your manufacturer's driver. Sometimes, the manufacturer make their own little things to the drivers, and the generic nvidia ones makes things, unstable . Aside from that, I'm out of ideas.

Norton's firewall is not a firewall, but an application-blocker. Big difference. I would agree. In fact we never, ever install Norton/McAfee/etc with the versions that come with fake firewalls.

Bunny, it is as I said initially. Your video card has a hardware failure. nVidia controls their drivers so unlike Squishy claims, you cannot get some customized driver by a manufacturer. ATI did allow some customization back in the day and may still allow it, but nVidia does not. Your card is dying or having a serious issue. Contact your manufacturer if you are under warranty.

Calorath wrote: »

Alright, to those of you stating that the code is bad and causing this issue, how come it does not affect any of my systems? I am not defending the game at this point as I am pissed off about the loading screen issue, but my bare minimum system (the Pentium D system mentioned in my last post) can run the game for hours on end. Explain how the exact same client code causes your much nicer hotrod systems to burn up. The sad thing? My desktop i7 is about as fast as you can get and I have no issues at all with everything maxed. Want to blame 64GB of RAM? Go ahead. ESO is 32bit and as such can only use 4GB at the absolute most under perfect conditions. That leaves 60GB that it cannot touch.

Seriously, check your thermal paste, vacuum the systems out gently (blowing air is useless as dust quickly resettles elsewhere) with a soft-bristle attachment for electronics, and do some basic system checks. Running a disk-check, doing an offline defragmentation, deleting old update files, loads of things that can help.

I will agree that the code needs work, but if the code was causing overheating, my poor old Pentium D system (this is a Dell XPS400) would have burned my house to the ground by now. Things that need work are things like nothing loading in while having no HDD activity, then throwing a damn loading screen up, heavy HDD activity, and you come back to being almost dead. That is just sorry. However, I cannot replicate the heat issues you guys are having. All of my systems are Intel/nVidia, so I cannot test on an AMD/ATI setup, but I know it runs on my very different systems.

pentium D? Wow that thing is from the stone age.

Also Zos discovering their computer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ZkJd4u0Us

So I was checking out the files in my Zenimax folder inside program files x86, the game client had this error text document and I found it odd that no one has shown this yet so ill just leave it here...
PS: did not have anything in addon folder if youre wondering.

language=en
FATAL_ERROR_TITLE=Fatal Error
CANT_OPEN_PACKFILES=Fatal Error 1.\nClient will be terminated.
INVALID_WORLD_ID=Fatal Error 2.\nClient will be terminated.
MISSING_WORLD_FILES=Fatal Error 3.\nClient will be terminated.
BAD_WORLD_LAYER_COUNT=Fatal Error 4.\nClient will be terminated.
OUT_OF_MEMORY=Out of memory.\nClient will be terminated.
CANT_OPEN_ASSET_FILE_TABLE=Fatal Error 6.\nClient will be terminated.
CLIENT_ASSERT=Fatal Error 7.\nClient will be terminated.
CANT_OPEN_UNPACKED_FILE_TABLE=Fatal Error 8.\nClient will be terminated.
CANT_OPEN_ANIMS_FILE_TABLE=Fatal Error 9.\nClient will be terminated.
DEFS_ARE_ALL_EMPTY=Fatal Error 10.\nClient will be terminated.
DEF_VERSION_MISMATCH=Fatal Error 11.\nClient will be terminated.
NO_DEPOT_DATA=Fatal Error 12\nClient will be terminated.
NO_PLATFORM_SPECIFIED=Fatal Error 13\nClient will be terminated.
GLOBAL_ANIMATION_DEF_IS_EMPTY=Fatal Error 14\nClient will be terminated.
EULA_NOT_FOUND=Fatal Error 15\nClient will be terminated.
INVALID_PUBLISH_FILES=Fatal Error 16\nClient will be terminated.

Re-install the game in folder different than c:\program files (x86)\ .
For Example c:\games, some versions of windows have issues with access to c:\program files (x86) same applies for some applications...

E.g. cut \ paste the ESO folder in folder different than c:\program files (x86) then try playing.

also i'm running win 8.1 x 64 with 6 GB ram on old i7 920 and Geforce GTX 770 no issues with this but the game is in e:\games\ESO folder

Turn users account control = off too...


PS. update your windows with last updates and in game turn on Vertical Syns =on
PPS. You can check in [Computer Management - >Windows logs-> Application] if there are Eso generated errors and if there are there is a description what causes it
check [Computer Management - >Windows logs-> system] logs too

We're glad to hear the issue was resolved, @killabunny1234b16_ESO‌, and we'll see you in Tamriel!