I'm generally over-leveled for each new zone, without grinding. I think people are bypassing the starter areas or are missing more than 'a few' side-quests.

The game is story driven, and based around questing to level. What you're asking would require a complete rework. Increasing XP that much would completely mess up all the folks who like to quest, because they'd be so over-leveled they'd get no reward for the content.

I've been constantly over-leveled during the main story part and currently about half a VR level above what I'm supposed to be for VR content. In order to be drastically under-leveled you need not just to miss 'a few' quests, but like a third of quests in each of the zones and some world bosses and anchors too. I think XP is too high...

Malpherian wrote: »

I am not sure if you are aware but, this last patch they severely nerfed xp gains to attempt to get rid of Bots, (from what I have read and heard from others having similar issues).

I must have missed that in the patch notes. Which patch did that? Last I knew, they had bumped up mob XP. I certainly seems that way to me anyway, the last new character I rolled was level 8 before I left Khenarthi's Roost (no where near 48 hours after I started).

Not trying to pick a fight with you, but I still think you might be missing more than a few quests.

I'm currently playing a 3rd and 4th character through the zones, and granted I'm not really listening to the quests or talking because...well this is my 3rd/4th character.

So far I've got one char from 1-7 in 2 hours and 36 minutes. (This was done just 2 days ago, after the patch)
And one character from 1-22 in 17hrs.

You do need to account for me not listening to the quests...I've done them multiple times already, and perhaps I do have a faster pace as I'm not doing any crafting/collection etc.

These times are basically moving from quest hub to quest hub with dungeons, world bosses and dolmens inbetween.

JungleBoot wrote: »

If the XP was lowered as suggested, it was done to slow players down -- not the bots. The people running bots don't care about XP gains. They mainly care about collecting mats -- those that use them. The further into the game you progress the less you see of bots -- with bots disappearing all together by the time you reach Eastmarch for the Ebonheart Pact.

The XP you gain in starter areas is going to vary by faction due to the number of quests available. For example, there are far more quests for the Daggerfall Covenenat than there is for the Ebonheart Pact. Once you return to Stonefalls through Bal Foyen ( and not skipping quests ), you should have reached level 6 - 8. But, a lot of that depends on if you grinded skeletons at the barrow to reach Fighters Guild rank 2. If you are just blazing through quests and not having to fight enemies much, then that is your problem. There isn't too much they can do about players clearing zones before you reach them so that you have little to do in the way of completing quests. So, you have to grind enemies your level or slightly above to gain levels and get back on track.

Unfortunately, that is how MMOs work. Some of that you can blame on every gamer that has former WoW like experience begging for WoW-like experiences in ESO. Because - in their warped view, an MMO can't be an MMO unless it is a duplicate of WoW.

I prefer the Elder scrolls way of leveling, you level your weapon armor and trait skills/crafting skills = You gain levels.

No Xp so to speak, you level those skills by using them.

Another thing that makes this game so UN-Elder Scrolls like.

apterous wrote: »

what's the point in playing long term mmo if you level to max in under a week?

Exactly.

ESO really showed that levels is not everything. Its nice to see People in all levels and zones. Um, still think vet 4 and up are few?

A tip for you for exp. Explore exp and opening chests is ....very good.
Since I do not use any addons, I run around like a headless chicken in all zones, behind every tree, moving every rock. checking behind a house.....oh crap...a troll!

I found loads of chests 1-50- My achievement says 742/1000. I wasnt looking for anything specific. Just nosy and I see skyshards everywhere! (Dont know where they are).

One main reason I like ESO is cause its not easy xp bam level. You CAN do it, if you follow a guide and grind (Shiver). But normal playing.....you get to play and each level means something!

Open more chests. I recently discovered that players who are struggling to maintain levels with the content have opened around 20 chests by the time they are level 50. While players who are vastly out leveling every zone have opened around 100 chests by the time they are level 50.

An advanced chest gives you approximately 1 quest's worth of EXP.

Leveling progression on this game is great.....glad for once I can play an MMO and not reach max lvl in a week.

MMOs are meant to be played over a long duration and have the feeling of investment in your character. How could you feel invested if everything is handed to you?

No way, I been Over level since Grahtwood. (5 level over), I haven't seen mob drops since this zone and I am in Cold Harbor now.

EXP 1-50 is insane....

Mortosk wrote: »

apterous wrote: »

what's the point in playing long term mmo if you level to max in under a week?

Umm.. End game? Raiding? PVP? Oh yea, this game doesn't have a PVE end game. Well there's still PVP I guess.

Perhaps that's why they still drag out the leveling process so long despite the entire community screaming at them that it's ridiculously slow.

Well, I Had one HELL of a ride. And I took my dear time sir!

Trade skills, explore, pvp was fun! Lvl 20-30 or so. I catapulted quite well!
Most cool was all the long story lines, main, mage and fighter quest lines.
And all the hidden side quests you could find with multiple choises and sometimes a skill point in reward!

I have to point out, the really well done instanced dungeons, from level 12-16 and up. They are a real challenge. Not gear, not char skills. But player skills and cooperation. Was like a mini raid! Loved every single one of em! Even though it probably was the worst Exp/hour, hehe.

Anyway, I had fun! Cold harbour is not to neglect. Very cool place. And I love the fact that you could populate hollow city MORE by doing all kinds of quests in that zone that wasnt needed for the main story line.

There also is roleplay value for those who are into that. And those players can be quite happy and enjoy their game at any level.

I am bound to Ebonheart! I wount leave that alliance, so giving me the experience of the other story lines and zones IS really fun. And I LIKE that you dont speed through it.

PvE end game is kinda bad! But I think they are improving it. For example, many problems some of my guild members had who where much faster levelers then me, I didnt get once I got to that point. Game keeps fixing.

Just fix the "#¤"#¤ CYRO LAG! And we get more to do.

There is a new dungeon isnt it?

I haven't been able to play the last few days since I was too busy with other stuff, but if they indeed lowered the xp gain this much I will abandon my higher level characters apart from their crafting and make a new character!

Been loving this game, but half the time my quests were grey and the mobs well over 5 levels below my characters meaning no challenge and no loot. They didn't give any xp either, but that was good since otherwise all quests would have been grey from level 20 or so on.

I understand it is frustrating for those that just want to pvp or play at endgame, but for me personally this, if indeed correct, is an awesome change.

XP gain is far too high. I've never played an MMO where you level so fast. I would be far happier if the whole game had the levelling speed of Veteran content.

I find the leveling just fine. No rush here to get to the end then complain about nothing to do, games been out very short time.

JungleBoot wrote: »

There isn't too much they can do about players clearing zones before you reach them so that you have little to do in the way of completing quests. So, you have to grind enemies your level or slightly above to gain levels and get back on track.

Unfortunately, that is how MMOs work.

Not all of them, some are smart enough to instance dungeons so just because some overpowered person entered just before you, the fights are all still there for you to enjoy. I tend to loot as I go and am fairly cautious. In this game, time and again I'll get to the boss just as somebody is offing it, and several times it won't respawn (or if it does, it's a SERIOUSLY long respawn timer) Really sort of getting annoying.

it took me like, 5-10 hours to get to level 10 without grinding. After 10 though, it generally slows down, but it is still fast.