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Nightblade Update
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ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭Enough with this Nightblade boosting, NB are strongest class in the game with high damage and having great skill for surviving, don't mention DK or rest of the classes this is just too much6 -
OkieDokie✭✭✭ArconSeptim wrote: »Enough with this Nightblade boosting, NB are strongest class in the game with high damage and having great skill for surviving, don't mention DK or rest of the classes this is just too much
Or you could create a NB and play for a while. After one month you will join us here with your buff suggestions
Edited by OkieDokie on June 28, 2014 7:30PMPeople keep saying they heard of a friend of friend of friend of their neighbors that plays a NB and can catch up with dks and sorcs and this guy just never shows up. He would be a rock star if he existed.8 -
Jarnhand✭✭✭ArconSeptim wrote: »Enough with this Nightblade boosting, NB are strongest class in the game with high damage and having great skill for surviving, don't mention DK or rest of the classes this is just too much
The 'problem' with NBs are two-fold:
1) Many NB skills are plain buged/do not work as they should.
2) Yes, a NB can be very deadly when prepared, and they are supposed to be. The problem is as a NB you cannot just make 1 quickbar and kill everything, doesnt work that way for a NB. Its way harder setting up a bar as a NB then for example for a DK or Sorc, because if its not made to kill that type of enemy or that situation, you have a problem.
I have both a DK and a NB, and its way way easier to set up quickbars for the DK for all enemies. And I bet its the same with a Sorc also; same main quickbar kills everything.4 -
Matuzes✭✭✭ArconSeptim wrote: »NB are strongest class in the game with high damage and having great skill for surviving,
You see!?! Path of Darkness rules Tamriel. Its combination of talons and bolt escape, and even can heal !!!
Matuzes - Imperial Nightblade
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Enough with this Nightblade boosting, NB are strongest class in the game with high damage and having great skill for surviving, don't mention DK or rest of the classes this is just too much
I honestly cant say if your being sarcastic or have just never played the class. If your whining because your lvl 30ish got ganked by a fully prepared r10+ NB then tough. NB have a good opener... after that ... what else? A sustain that drops dps by alot AND even got nerfed, *** poor abilities tied to garbage stamina skills, vs say Sorc or DK that synergizes very well with the only viable end game build elder STAFF online. Add on top of it all half our abilities either dont work half the time or at all and *** poor tooltip descriptions it just compounds the issues.ArconSeptim wrote: »The 'problem' with NBs are two-fold:
1) Many NB skills are plain buged/do not work as they should.
2) Yes, a NB can be very deadly when prepared, and they are supposed to be. The problem is as a NB you cannot just make 1 quickbar and kill everything, doesnt work that way for a NB. Its way harder setting up a bar as a NB then for example for a DK or Sorc, because if its not made to kill that type of enemy or that situation, you have a problem.
I have both a DK and a NB, and its way way easier to set up quickbars for the DK for all enemies. And I bet its the same with a Sorc also; same main quickbar kills everything.
Yes it is the same for Sorc, on my sorc at MOST i have to go to second hotbar. On NB i have to build a complete bar for each different type of mob, and depending on the mob sometimes have to build the second bar as well just to handle it. I do mean BUILD the entire bar to custom tailor to that specific mob btw not just bar swapping. I currently have around 18 specific builds saved on my NB after around 40 respecs just to cover most mobs, that means in between mobs i have to use outfitter to swap out my skills and sometimes weapons just to be able to handle a different type of mob.
Edited by altrego9920_ESO on June 28, 2014 9:07PM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am a vr5 lvl nightblade, I can not do any pve area alone, I am killed by the mobs, constantly in the vr areas. I am currently playing in Deshan, which is vr2 can't complete quest, which is very frustrating. I do not crunch numbers nor do I want too. I came from skyrim, trying to play and this part of the game is way to hard for solo running, which is how I want to do the pve area. Maybe my build is imperfect, but it is the way I want to play the game. Any suggestions, my frustration lvl is high and thinking about leaving the game. It appears the only way I will lvl is through pvp which is not what I want to do. I had no problem through lvl 50, after that the mobs are just to hard. Very disappointing!!!
I am vr5 nightblade and i have been killing vr5 mobs since i was vr2 (probably could at vr1 but i never tried).
Facing 3 mobs. Identify the most dangerous one(a healer, or if you're a vamp anything that does fire damage, etc.). Put an assassin's mark on it. Attack it from stealth with concealed weapon, followed by heavy attack+impale(at the same time). Dead. Now there are only 2 mobs, and they just about noticed you. Cloak. Attack one with concealed weapon, followed by heavy attack. It will be knocked down. Block incoming heavy attack from 3rd, this will put him out of fight for a few seconds. Cloak. Conc weapon the 2nd one, followed by heavy attack and impale. Now it's just a 1v1. Proceed at your leisure.
Funny, I use more or less the same rotation against 3 mobs. I don't use the combined skill+heavy attack because I consider it an exploit, but hey, it's just me and I'm just weird.
Just to clarify: even if you consider animation cancelling an exploit, that's not what i meant.
You just charge a heavy attack, and use concealed weapon at the same time the heavy attack lands(since conc weapon is instant). No animation cancelling happens, you just time the damage from heavy and skill to land at the same time for burst.I simply put some rapid strikes on the target. More or less the same time and same result, target No1 dead.
So today I'm on a "new armor" test ride. I approach 2 v8 mobs. One healer and one melee. Typical, I approach from behind and concealed on the healer. Nice, he is stunned, thus the attack was from stealth. Guess what. He is stunned but with no damage taken. He is with a full bar. Bug???? Okie, *** happens.
Yes, this bug happens to me as well, however very infrequently (once every few days).Two rapid strikes and an impale on him to go down because if he starts healing, bye bye.
Why? Just bash him if he starts healing. Free knockdown for you.The healer is dead. I got one hit from the melee, lucky it didn't one shot me, hit a potion to fill my half health bar and move to him. He just started a heavy attack, so dark cloak and move behind him.
Block it instead. Again, a free knockdown for you.I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Edited by Sharee on June 28, 2014 9:44PM0 -
Block... and use a HUGE portion of a stamina builds (read melee NB) resource pool so you can only autoattack after....0
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Blocking costs what, ~220 stamina or so? I have ~1300...0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've struggled to a level 35 NB,but I just cant seem to get those solo bosses that further the main storyline.Not enough of anything for me to be able to take them down. It would be nice if they fixed the class,because it's my favorite one. I wont leave because of it though.0 -
Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
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I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.Edited by Grim13 on June 28, 2014 10:25PM0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Would he have blocked, the heavy attack would bounce off and the mob would be off-balance and stunned. Then it could be knocked down with a heavy attack. No need for either running away or for cloak+conc stun which burns way more mana than a block burns stamina.Edited by Sharee on June 28, 2014 10:43PM0 -
Erlindur✭✭✭
I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Don't be too hard on him. He does the same mistake Zenimax does. He is looking at numbers and specific encounters and he draws his conclusions from there.
I didn't described tactics. I described an encounter where everything was broke. This is what they don't realize in Zenimax. They designed a class, where playing the archetype, you must do a precise dance to achieve your goal. A few mistakes and it is game over. It is not just spamming 2-3 keys as a DK friend of mine does usually. That dance may work right on your Dev 's pc, hardwired to the test server.
In live though, with a stressed server and a client half the planet away, s-h-i-t happens. And they happen a lot. Nightblades have no room for error and when that error is not the player's fault, you'll end up with a 50+ thread and people yelling at you to fix their class.
Edited by Erlindur on June 28, 2014 10:47PM0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Don't be too hard on him. He does the same mistake Zenimax does. He is looking at numbers and specific encounters and he draws his conclusions from there.
My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
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Erlindur✭✭✭
I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Don't be too hard on him. He does the same mistake Zenimax does. He is looking at numbers and specific encounters and he draws his conclusions from there.
My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
I would normally ignore that post but it is Saturday night and I had a couple of drinks, so please hear me.
IT IT NOT ABOUT YOU. It never was. You are a fine nightblade.
IT IS A THREAD ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGHTBLADES.
Now, read the rest of my post.
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Don't be too hard on him. He does the same mistake Zenimax does. He is looking at numbers and specific encounters and he draws his conclusions from there.
My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
I would normally ignore that post but it is Saturday night and I had a couple of drinks, so please hear me.
IT IT NOT ABOUT YOU. It never was. You are a fine nightblade.
IT IS A THREAD ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGHTBLADES.
Now, read the rest of my post.
Right now this thread is more about nightblades who don't know how to play their class and blame their failure on 'what is wrong with nightblades'.
Not that there aren't issues with nightblades. But not blocking a heavy attack, when you are in a 1v1 against a single mob? That is not a class issue.
Have a nice day.4 -
Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
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I do a concealed on him. Funny, no stun and he lands that heavy attack on me. ***, lag. Cloak and run away. LOL I'm invisible and he is still chasing me. Sprint to go away. As long as I'm visible again I throw another cloak. He is like 10 meters away from me preparing another heavy. I use the last cloak to get in a big arc behind him. Not a chance. His attack hits me from a mile away and finishes me off.
The death recap said I should use 1h and shield to block attacks.
I know, I must L2P.
Well, the death recap was right, you should have blocked that heavy... Why cloak when he's the last mob alive.
Alternatively, sparks make most melee encounters trivial. If you use it every 4 seconds, you can just autoattack the mob to death.
Did you not read how the 2 heavy attacks both hit because of lag? Why block when your character should be free and out of range?
..And why not cloak when you're attempting to stun him with Concealed Weapon?
You lack reading comprehension.
Don't be too hard on him. He does the same mistake Zenimax does. He is looking at numbers and specific encounters and he draws his conclusions from there.
My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
I would normally ignore that post but it is Saturday night and I had a couple of drinks, so please hear me.
IT IT NOT ABOUT YOU. It never was. You are a fine nightblade.
IT IS A THREAD ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGHTBLADES.
Now, read the rest of my post.
Ignore Sharee. Clearly, there are more bugs in her grasp of English... than in the NB class.0 -
Moputu✭Wanted to report a new bug introduced with v1.2.3...
Humanoid mobs wielding 2-handed weapons now use CC-break when stunned (just like players, immunity and all.) This, while it definitely doesn't help NBs, isn't the main problem:
Those same 2-handers will now use that CC-break whenever you use cloak, even if that 2-hander mob isn't your current target.
It's not a game breaker, but it's something to add to the pile of NB specific bugs.
Edit/Update: Well, According to the patch notes, it looks like this might have been fixed with 1.2.4. Woo!(?)Edited by Moputu on June 30, 2014 3:50PM5 -
Selodaoc✭✭✭When you cloak, enemies goes into stunned state, which you can see with some addons. Poorly done mechanics.1 -
dastone✭✭You can't block ranged heavy attacks at least it does not work for me
I am referring to all the just block heavy attack stuff above2 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭Good note, with this last patch, Shadowy Disguise is not broken by our damage over time effects. Tested with cleave and Cripple. Still have not checked Veil of Blades yet.0
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Thejollygreenone✭✭✭Good note, with this last patch, Shadowy Disguise is not broken by our damage over time effects. Tested with cleave and Cripple. Still have not checked Veil of Blades yet.
Wow! Awesome! Been waiting for that, since I typically use a DoT based build and have since I picked up the game.
However, this ability is still far from fixed. There is one issue that I believe has not been addressed. I saw this bug when in a cross-faction dueling guild, gathered in cyrodiil for competitive dueling:
Basically what happened was I was trying out a build with shadowy disguise/dark cloak, whatever morph I was using at the time, and after the fight ended horribly from my invis repeatedly being broken for seemingly no reason, I was watching a fight next to someone of a different faction.
In my boredom I started using the ability and getting close to this player of a different faction, and at least three out of five uses it would break before one second of duration without anything else being done. No combat, no DoT on me, nor from me on an enemy.
There was no reason that has been discussed to my knowledge why I should be broken out of invisibility with no damage being done or received, abilities being activated, or anything of the sort. Merely being next to the enemy made it break prematurely.
Until whatever the hell that was that I was experiencing and continue to experience in less controlled environments gets fixed, this ability remains useless to me, let alone deserving of a spot on my oh so limited action bar while pvping.
I'd be glad to replicate this experiment and fraps it this time if requested to do so, but I really shouldn't have to. The bottom line is there are things that are broken with this ability and its morphs that have not been addressed. And whatever it is that is broken with this trademark Nightblade ability really needs to be fixed.
End of story(rant).
EDIT: Of course it's just speculation that this broken aspect hasn't been stealth-fixed as well. I suppose I'll have to test it again anyway just to find out.Edited by Thejollygreenone on June 30, 2014 10:58PM0 -
Moputu✭Thejollygreenone wrote: »... at least three out of five uses it would break before one second of duration without anything else being done. No combat, no DoT on me, nor from me on an enemy.
There was no reason that has been discussed to my knowledge why I should be broken out of invisibility with no damage being done or received, abilities being activated, or anything of the sort. Merely being next to the enemy made it break prematurely...
Just making sure, but are you sure that someone with mage light or one of it's morphs wasn't near by?
From what I've seen, you can't see another player's glowing ball if they use ML where you couldn't see it being cast (or something to that effect).1 -
Lyall84✭✭✭✭Thejollygreenone wrote: »Good note, with this last patch, Shadowy Disguise is not broken by our damage over time effects. Tested with cleave and Cripple. Still have not checked Veil of Blades yet.
Wow! Awesome! Been waiting for that, since I typically use a DoT based build and have since I picked up the game.
However, this ability is still far from fixed. There is one issue that I believe has not been addressed. I saw this bug when in a cross-faction dueling guild, gathered in cyrodiil for competitive dueling:
Basically what happened was I was trying out a build with shadowy disguise/dark cloak, whatever morph I was using at the time, and after the fight ended horribly from my invis repeatedly being broken for seemingly no reason, I was watching a fight next to someone of a different faction.
In my boredom I started using the ability and getting close to this player of a different faction, and at least three out of five uses it would break before one second of duration without anything else being done. No combat, no DoT on me, nor from me on an enemy.
There was no reason that has been discussed to my knowledge why I should be broken out of invisibility with no damage being done or received, abilities being activated, or anything of the sort. Merely being next to the enemy made it break prematurely.
Until whatever the hell that was that I was experiencing and continue to experience in less controlled environments gets fixed, this ability remains useless to me, let alone deserving of a spot on my oh so limited action bar while pvping.
I'd be glad to replicate this experiment and fraps it this time if requested to do so, but I really shouldn't have to. The bottom line is there are things that are broken with this ability and its morphs that have not been addressed. And whatever it is that is broken with this trademark Nightblade ability really needs to be fixed.
End of story(rant).
EDIT: Of course it's just speculation that this broken aspect hasn't been stealth-fixed as well. I suppose I'll have to test it again anyway just to find out.
I think the reason was touched on my someone else in another post...when you use cloak it technically "stuns" NPCs according to the combat log. If someone has any type of stun immunity from an ability, I am guessing here, it "resists" the stun and fails the ability, knocking out of stealth.
That is what I am thinking is happening. Not sure though.Edited by Lyall84 on July 1, 2014 12:31AM1 -
Thejollygreenone✭✭✭As far as I remember, the only person I was within 10m of was this one guy that I was getting close to and tinkering with invisibility. And again, as far as I remember, there were no visual signs that he, nor anyone within range, had magelight or any of its morphs.
When I get some time and cooperation from someone of another faction I will be trying to replicate this issue to make sure, as I have mentioned.
And @Lyall84, the person I was next to, whom I believed to be the only person within at least 10m, was out of combat, and had been sitting still doing nothing, watching the fight.
There was no reason for him to have cc-immunity, nor did I see the swirling white circle animation around the players feet that would signify such immunity. Unless what you suggest is that the odd stun-mechanic doesn't work on players ever and causes a premature breaking of invis, then that is still an issue that needs be resolved.
And one more time, since this is all based off of memory in which I wasn't intentionally attempting to remember each detail, this report is subject to speculation. If anyone has an opportunity to test this, please do. I will get to it when I can in the meantime.
Thanks for the responses though, guys. I'd certainly like to figure out what I was seeing.0 -
Selodaoc✭✭✭I wrote the same thing here. Its more broken then ever. Every time a dot crits on enemy, it breaks stealth. Blood craze, veil of blades, you name it. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1021343/#Comment_1021343Edited by Selodaoc on July 1, 2014 3:18AM2
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Jarnhand✭✭✭Sadly Shadow Cloak and its morphs as far as I know is broken, and close to useless. Not even sloted on my main bar.
There are MANY NB skills that are either plain broken or buged. Zenimax told us NBs should get fixed, but this is going very slowly, and even some patches breaking even more stuff.
Please Zenimax hurry it up, before even more people just plain give up...I am sure a lot of people are not too happy with broken skills, cheater/exploiters all over the game (shrine porting in Cyrodiil etc) and Zenimax do nothing at all to stop them, and horrible FPS lags, makeing Cyrodiil partly unplayable...1 -
Sangeet✭✭✭For now, i shelfed my Rank 7 Nightblade, and play my lvl 25 DK Destro Staff /Light Armor Toon.
The problem is:
All class skills use magica, its easy to bump up magica with passive traits, with the mage mundus stone, 20% crit from a single inner light morph, crit from the light armor passive, 5% crit on my lvl 20 staff. I could already solo group dungeons in rivenspire, aoe trash groups. I also have the warlock set dropped for me at lvl 20, which disabled my main problem for the DK, i never run OOM.
The same build would not work for a nightblade, as the fiery talons are essential to have all the enemy's nicely grouped for that AOE pew pew to happen.
What nightblade needs: viable skills that provide synergies opportunities for other players to enact group play. Also i think, the whole system should be revamped, get rid of stamina, and make every active skill magica based.
Stamina is then only used to block, roll, sprint.
It comes down to this: when i activate a skill, why should i choose a skill that is providing lower damage than a different skill? Only for style reasons?
The complete system in its current state is totally unfair, when i have to get into melee range to do damage, i need to do significantly larger damage than someone standing in range, casting with a stick /bow etc.
The guy standing in the distance can hide in a group of players /keep etc.
Also as the inner light morph is so mandatory for casters, everyone uses it, so sneaking upon people is almost meaningless.
Minor changes like a bit more damage for bow poison, and the stamina reduction cost, doesnt cut it by far. With dual wield, steel tornado you should receive the same effect as with impulse !
Also that light armor provides the spell resist , making you immune to part of all active class skills in game, is just bad game design. It should be, that heavy armor has the most spell resist, like 21%, medium has 14% and light 7%.
Its a glass cannon in light armor ?`Currently i have the feeling that my survivability with the DK is by far exceeding the nightblade, 10% less damage with only 2 skill points in block, how cool is that? Also got a Darkelf with fire resist, extra fire damage, more magica to tune in. Compare that to woodelf, where you could specc to avoid poison damage - nobody does poison damage in this game, but there a quite a lot of fire seen in PVE.
When a DK can skill with 2 points to block 10% damage, and Nightblade if offensive type of character, where is my passive to increase damage 10% ?
Master Assasin does not count, as its 1x 10% for opener, not 10% blocking all the time ?
Siphoning attacks 20% damage nerf? Oh come on, thats pretty ***, how does that fit to a offensive class like the nightblade ?
When there are classes, they have to have a certain direction, why should i pick a nightblade over an DK ?
The classes are the 4 Basic DnD types, everyone agrees that the fantasy basic we now since the 80ties , Wizard, Fighter, Cleric, Rouge.
I really like the option in ESO, that you could fulfill every role with each class, but i think you should provide a weighting to it, as we would expect it from our experience:
Wizard: the one with the special effects, he is the best at it.
Fighter: best at tanking
Cleric: best at healing
Rouge: best at DD.
As every class has 3 trees, you could basically sort the 3 Roles of DD, Tanking, Healing in each of the trees, and support one of the roles you have to take over, when it comes down to group content.
So when the Wizard could provide the extra 10% CC
The Fighter the extra 10% protection
The Cleric the extra 10% healing
The Rouge the extra 10% DPS, nobody would complain.
Also each class should have something unique to them, which none of the other classes provides, could be a group buff. Like the 10% above, the DK could buff the whole group with a Earth shield ? He also gets the Weapon Buff for the Group ?
Why isnt that skill assigned to nightblades ?
Also the blocking dynamic heavy favors the caster, and melee type characters get a shaft here, so that needs to be tweaked as well.
Untill that is fixed, i will play a caster, or cancel my sub, if i cant face the VR grind again, Nightblade stays broken.
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My main is a nightblade. I have played the class as a DW/medium assassin ever since i crafted myself a medium armor set at level 4, and i never had any problem with any of the content i encountered. That is where i draw my conclusions from.
You guys would do well to take the offered advice which is based on my everyday gameplay - not some 'looking at numbers' - instead of patting each other on the back how bad you have it and ridiculing those who are trying to help you.
Not that I don't believe you, but please post the character name and level ...
I could post that I have a VR 12 Templar, and can 1 shot anything ... but that doesn't make it true.0
