Unlisted changes on reddit

Lynx7386 · June 2014

Singular wrote: »

Why are these posted on Reddit and not on OUR FORUMS???

We are paying customers, these are your game forums!

These are changes that have been discovered -by the players-. ZOS didnt go and post them on the reddit forums, players did.

It's just a case of ZOS not documenting everything in their patch notes. Poor organization, nothing more. This kind of thing happens with -every- game company (and most other companies as well). A report only lists what was actually reported to whoever created the report. Numerous things get done that are never reported, and thus... dont make it into the report.

phtony06b14_ESO · June 2014

Tobiz wrote: »

Changes in 1.2.3 not listed in patchnotes so far:

•Materials now list what level range they are used for.
Nice.

•The minimum distance for opening containers has been increased
Especially appreciated. Was an asinine change to begin with.

•All large storage containers, trunks, cabinets, etc, may also now drop white quality items to that region's level
I'm 45 years old but I think the word "retarted" would be adequate to describe this change.

•Enemy NPCs are able to CC break now, same as a player is able to. Also includes the after-effect of 3 second CC immunity.
I've noticed they break CC on a regular basis; to the point I'm debating taking Talons off my bar for pve leveling on my DK.

•Mundus Stones now give you a prompt with a detailed description of their effects before you commit to activating them.
Maybe I'm too much of a Skyrim child, but I always wondered why they did not to begin with. Nice change.

•I found a new one, and it's quite interesting... So far I have only tested it with stamina based abilities that are melee range (Twin Slashes). If you look at an enemy and use a stamina ability that is out of range, your movement speed increases to sprint speed as long as you have that target in your sights still. It lasts for 1-2 seconds and the sprint speed does not consume any stamina. I think this might be one of the best ninja changes yet. I can finally not waste stamina when sprinting at an out of range opponent as long as I keep using out of range stamina abilities on them
I've noticed this as well. Probably a bug. I also noticed that Invasion seems to get stuck on terrain a lot more.

Hilgara · June 2014

Singular wrote: »

Why are these posted on Reddit and not on OUR FORUMS???

We are paying customers, these are your game forums!

Coz the guy that posted it is on reddit?

Karnus · June 2014

Ellorienne wrote: »

Provisioning crates in all areas now drop materials related to your level, plus the base materials for the zone's level. So if you are VR and suddenly decide to start provisioning, you had better have collected things like black tea, heather, plump worms etc or you're going to have to level another character or buy them from other players.

Also, provisioning recipes now have 0 vendor value.

This is bad, I had hoped to work on provisioning after fully leveling blacksmithing, Woodcrafting and clothing.

Also Rapid Maneuver not applying to mounts anymore? Was that intended?

Mount running sounds are now distractingly quiet IMHO

And I really miss the notification sounds of attaining VR xp/ Dungeon completion etc, I don't understand why that would be removed.

Cogo · June 2014

They also sneaked in improved phasing.

Maybe people wouldnt believe it if they posted that, but 5-6 hours, grouping with 3 people, different quests, including phasing and we had no problems.

SilverWF · June 2014

All Glyph of Rage was converted into Glyph of Berserker, what inreases your weapon power
But this is possibly bugged, because it increases it only by 2 at any level of glyph or rarity.

Also, tooltip of max lvl glyphs was fixed. Now it says this glyph for 10 - 12 VR, before it was 10-14 VR

whsprwind · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

All Glyph of Rage was converted into Glyph of Berserker, what inreases your weapon power
But this is possibly bugged, because it increases it only by 2 at any level of glyph or rarity.

Also, tooltip of max lvl glyphs was fixed. Now it says this glyph for 10 - 12 VR, before it was 10-14 VR

I wonder if that means that VR12 will be the highest for a while

JessieColt · June 2014

I didn't read the entire thread, but one thing I noticed is the Runes are more colorful in world.

Potency Runes glow blue/purple
Aspect Runes Glow Red
Essence Runes glow yellow

kirnmalidus · June 2014

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

Reremnu wrote: »

NB's Ambush has increased damage from stealth. It used to be 3 times normal damage, now it is ~5 times normal damage. Be prepared for ~1k damage from Ambush in PvP ;P

Only pretty poor NB setup will do 1K damage.

At 5x normal damage, on correctly fitted NB, we are looking around 3000+ HP damage now, from stealth.

(sorry I am not going to tell you how to correctly fit your NB, I only keep info for mine).

He's using Ambush, it's the un-morphed version of the ability. He's probably lower level than you.

kirnmalidus · June 2014

Stonesthrow wrote: »

Anyone put down the additional Public Dungeon Achieves?

Not sure of names, at work… but there are Boss kill "slayer/conqueror" type achieves for Vile Manse & Rulanyil's Fall, possibly others.

I think there always were those achievements.

PocketNova · June 2014

They've also changed the amount of characters you can delete. You're now restricted to 3. Kinda annoying to bring it in out of no where, if I'd known I'd have cleared mine beforehand.

Sakiri · June 2014

lillyaustin wrote: »

They've also changed the amount of characters you can delete. You're now restricted to 3. Kinda annoying to bring it in out of no where, if I'd known I'd have cleared mine beforehand.

Thats per day.

SystemiK · June 2014

I suppose it's not that surprising that the same company which relies on mod authors to complete their unfinished UI, would rely on other social communities to complete their patch notes for them...

jamie.goddenrwb17_ESO · June 2014

Karnus wrote: »

Ellorienne wrote: »

Provisioning crates in all areas now drop materials related to your level, plus the base materials for the zone's level. So if you are VR and suddenly decide to start provisioning, you had better have collected things like black tea, heather, plump worms etc or you're going to have to level another character or buy them from other players.

Also, provisioning recipes now have 0 vendor value.

This is bad, I had hoped to work on provisioning after fully leveling blacksmithing, Woodcrafting and clothing.

Also Rapid Maneuver not applying to mounts anymore? Was that intended?

Mount running sounds are now distractingly quiet IMHO

And I really miss the notification sounds of attaining VR xp/ Dungeon completion etc, I don't understand why that would be removed.

Fortunately no, Rapid maneuver is still meant to affect your horse and this has been acknowledged in the known issues thread. Pretty sure the missing notifications are on the list too along with the recipes.

I don't think they've stated a fix date yet except for the recipes bug but they seem pretty good about patching "oopses" following major content so hopefully not long!

Here is the link in case you haven't seen it yet!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114325/patch-v1-2-3-known-issues/p1

PoseidonEvil · June 2014

they didnt fix the werewold devour skill..it still has a timer on it

PocketNova · June 2014

Sakiri wrote: »

lillyaustin wrote: »

They've also changed the amount of characters you can delete. You're now restricted to 3. Kinda annoying to bring it in out of no where, if I'd known I'd have cleared mine beforehand.

Thats per day.

Really? If this is the case then I can breathe a sigh of relief. Thank you for the clarification.

Nova Sky · June 2014

Finvir doesn't show up in Bad Man's Hollows, so that side quest is now bugged.

Edit: I checked with five or so other players present at the same time I was, and no one could see Finvir to complete the quest. Relogging didn't solve the issue, nor did completing the other quest involved with Bad Man's Hollow.

It sucks because, odds are, we can't get the achievement for beating Bad Man's Hollow, nor the trophy thingamajig from Finvir.

wllstrt75b14_ESO · June 2014

Tobiz wrote: »

Changes in 1.2.3 not listed in patchnotes so far:

•The toggled free mouse has a new appearance.
•A bent double-sided arrow appears in the character select screen to let you know you can rotate the character.
•When a friend logs in, it now tells you what character they logged in to.
•Items which previously had the "lock symbol" for enchantments now display a quote instead: "This enchantment cannot be replaced.".
•Default prices are no longer applied when listing an item for sale in the guild store (all prices are 0 until you change them).
•One of the Jazbay Grapes provisioning item is now named Piquant Jazbay Grapes.
•Horse sounds have changed again to be more quiet.
•PvP Assault skill Rapid Maneuver no longer affects horse speed.
•Materials now list what level range they are used for.
•Staffs have a new sheathing sound.
•(unconfirmed) Nord racial changed from + armor to % damage reduction
•(unconfirmed) Negative effects to alchemy potions have their magnitude increased
•Map (M) now has a sound when you zoom in\out. Sounds like gears
•Night's Silence set replaced the 3 trait bonus. It is not 40% health regen while sneaking, it is now 220% extra sneaking movement speed.
•The Twighlight Matriarch is graphically enhanced
•The minimum distance for opening containers has been increased
•All large storage containers, trunks, cabinets, etc, may also now drop white quality items to that region's level
•Magicka Furnace 5 piece set is 15% magicka regeneration with 30 second cooldown.
•Official patch notes said the "Command Pet" option is now 'Y', but didn't mention it can be changed in keybinds -> Combat.
•Raw Jute has been made more colorful, and noticeable, as well as some orange color added to its leaves
•Enemy NPCs are able to CC break now, same as a player is able to. Also includes the after-effect of 3 second CC immunity.
•The sound that plays when you try to use a skill or dodge roll when you don't have enough magicka or stamina is much louder
•Slight edit to Achievements tab
•New sounds to the death recap screen
•
Mundus Stones now give you a prompt with a detailed description of their effects before you commit to activating them.

•
I found a new one, and it's quite interesting... So far I have only tested it with stamina based abilities that are melee range (Twin Slashes). If you look at an enemy and use a stamina ability that is out of range, your movement speed increases to sprint speed as long as you have that target in your sights still. It lasts for 1-2 seconds and the sprint speed does not consume any stamina. I think this might be one of the best ninja changes yet. I can finally not waste stamina when sprinting at an out of range opponent as long as I keep using out of range stamina abilities on them

Thanks to FatCat45 at reddit for maintaining this list.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/290ksh/changes_not_listed_in_patch_notes/

Lmao I am sure that these changes were unintended side affects of just terrible developers, but doing these things on purpose and then failing to put them in the patch notes is pretty terrible as well.

I am still trying to figure out which one is worse...I cant believe they would leave so much out so I am guessing their team of developers and QA is really that terrible.

Singular · June 2014

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Singular wrote: »

Why are these posted on Reddit and not on OUR FORUMS???

We are paying customers, these are your game forums!

These are changes that have been discovered -by the players-. ZOS didnt go and post them on the reddit forums, players did.

It's just a case of ZOS not documenting everything in their patch notes. Poor organization, nothing more. This kind of thing happens with -every- game company (and most other companies as well). A report only lists what was actually reported to whoever created the report. Numerous things get done that are never reported, and thus... dont make it into the report.

Hilgara wrote: »

Singular wrote: »

Why are these posted on Reddit and not on OUR FORUMS???

We are paying customers, these are your game forums!

Coz the guy that posted it is on reddit?

Oh. Ha-ha.

Uhm...I'm an idiot. Ok, ok. Then let me change my scream to:

Why didn't you post these in your patch/update notes?!? These are your game forums!!!

Arsenic_Touch · June 2014

Another thing changed, the argonian at the davon watch bank is gone, the dark elf is now the teller.

Junipus · June 2014

Nova Sky wrote: »

Finvir doesn't show up in Bad Man's Hollows, so that side quest is now bugged.

Edit: I checked with five or so other players present at the same time I was, and no one could see Finvir to complete the quest. Relogging didn't solve the issue, nor did completing the other quest involved with Bad Man's Hollow.

It sucks because, odds are, we can't get the achievement for beating Bad Man's Hollow, nor the trophy thingamajig from Finvir.

Did you check at the portal next to the entry point? I ask as the quest marker points to where you originally met him, but he's actually located next to the entry/exit portal when I did the quest yesterday post-patch.

Nova Sky · June 2014

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Nova Sky wrote: »

Finvir doesn't show up in Bad Man's Hollows, so that side quest is now bugged.

Edit: I checked with five or so other players present at the same time I was, and no one could see Finvir to complete the quest. Relogging didn't solve the issue, nor did completing the other quest involved with Bad Man's Hollow.

It sucks because, odds are, we can't get the achievement for beating Bad Man's Hollow, nor the trophy thingamajig from Finvir.

Did you check at the portal next to the entry point? I ask as the quest marker points to where you originally met him, but he's actually located next to the entry/exit portal when I did the quest yesterday post-patch.

I did just that after a bunch of players got together and discussed it in a "/say" session, since none of us could see Finvir at the quest marker point. We all went back to the where the quest originated and, yes, he was at that point.

It begs the question, though: Why would the quest marker appear over an empty space? Unless Finvir originally was there, but a patch returned him to another portion of the cave system?

Phantax · June 2014

Tobiz wrote: »

Changes in 1.2.3 not listed in patchnotes so far:

•The toggled free mouse has a new appearance.
•A bent double-sided arrow appears in the character select screen to let you know you can rotate the character.
•When a friend logs in, it now tells you what character they logged in to.
•Items which previously had the "lock symbol" for enchantments now display a quote instead: "This enchantment cannot be replaced.".
•Default prices are no longer applied when listing an item for sale in the guild store (all prices are 0 until you change them).
•One of the Jazbay Grapes provisioning item is now named Piquant Jazbay Grapes.
•Horse sounds have changed again to be more quiet.
•PvP Assault skill Rapid Maneuver no longer affects horse speed.
•Materials now list what level range they are used for.
•Staffs have a new sheathing sound.
•(unconfirmed) Nord racial changed from + armor to % damage reduction
•(unconfirmed) Negative effects to alchemy potions have their magnitude increased
•Map (M) now has a sound when you zoom in\out. Sounds like gears
•Night's Silence set replaced the 3 trait bonus. It is not 40% health regen while sneaking, it is now 220% extra sneaking movement speed.
•The Twighlight Matriarch is graphically enhanced
•The minimum distance for opening containers has been increased
•All large storage containers, trunks, cabinets, etc, may also now drop white quality items to that region's level
•Magicka Furnace 5 piece set is 15% magicka regeneration with 30 second cooldown.
•Official patch notes said the "Command Pet" option is now 'Y', but didn't mention it can be changed in keybinds -> Combat.
•Raw Jute has been made more colorful, and noticeable, as well as some orange color added to its leaves
•Enemy NPCs are able to CC break now, same as a player is able to. Also includes the after-effect of 3 second CC immunity.
•The sound that plays when you try to use a skill or dodge roll when you don't have enough magicka or stamina is much louder
•Slight edit to Achievements tab
•New sounds to the death recap screen
•
Mundus Stones now give you a prompt with a detailed description of their effects before you commit to activating them.

•
I found a new one, and it's quite interesting... So far I have only tested it with stamina based abilities that are melee range (Twin Slashes). If you look at an enemy and use a stamina ability that is out of range, your movement speed increases to sprint speed as long as you have that target in your sights still. It lasts for 1-2 seconds and the sprint speed does not consume any stamina. I think this might be one of the best ninja changes yet. I can finally not waste stamina when sprinting at an out of range opponent as long as I keep using out of range stamina abilities on them

Thanks to FatCat45 at reddit for maintaining this list.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/290ksh/changes_not_listed_in_patch_notes/

Would be interesting to see an 'official' comment why they omitted/forgot to mention all these additions/changes ?
(other than yet more incompetence from Zenimax)