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Do you support a duelling function?
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KerberosSoldier wrote: »I do not support dueling in Cyrodil because it would most likely be a crime in the Alliances to kill other soldiers from same alliance
You don't kill the other person in dueling.0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »For the love of God no, I dont want to see 15 V12 aholes standing in the house you pop out of intro into, to spam duel requests to a lvl 3.No is the obvious choice.
1.Default set to dueling? A ganker's paradise.
2. Dueling everywhere including all PVE areas? PVPers' wet-dream and a PITA for people going about their regular business(really, really want to have these clowns jumping and fighting in the bank buildings.. not)
So again NO.Open world anywhere duels, click a person and ask to duel then no, definitely not, NOT AGAIN.
Mr.Woopass OfallWoopassers wants to duel you do you accept?
No
Mr.Woopass OfallWoopassers wants to duel you do you accept?
NO
Auto decline.
Why is nobody getting this?Edited by Blackwidow on June 26, 2014 4:22PM2 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dueling should not be everywhere.
It should be outside city limits like most MMOs.
Edited by Blackwidow on June 26, 2014 4:24PM1 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not
I want free PVP- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Dusty5✭✭✭Look another thread begging for a greifing option. NO NO NO. All you have to do is look in towns at the piles of people standing around for hours not doing anything but trolling chat, spaming spell, arrow attacks at each other and trying to block access to vendors and doorways. This pile of fertilizer will camp out on resource nodes,quest npcs and in dungeons spawning duel requests trying to trip an unwanted pvp attack. Pvp players are locked away in your own zone for a reason and should stay that way. Nor every game/mmo needs pvp. Not every person that logs on wants pvp. If you need it that bad. LEAVE!!! go back to your consoles and bafoonery leave adults alone.2 -
KariTR✭✭✭✭✭Why are people so against adding new things? It's not invasive, or immersion breaking, and for the most part, the features that people request would ADD to immersion. Someone pissing your character off? Challenge them, and drive a sword through their chest.
Because most of the suggestions aren't 'new' are they? They are requests to turn 'our' latest MMO into the same one we played already.
While I recognise a degree of familiarity is important in a new game, I wish as a community we were more encouraging of 'different' rather than wanting more of the same in a new skin.Edited by KariTR on June 26, 2014 4:32PM2 -
Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If people must have this to feel complete then whatever but keep it the heck out of my PvE areas, or at the least confine it to selected dueling fields if you must fight people from your own team.
Last thing I need when sneaking up on something is two buffoons dueling their way through my quest...
Plus - auto-decline by default with perma bans for people who taunt those who do not want to join in their silly games.2 -
drogon1✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »Auto decline.
Why is nobody getting this?
Game forums can be a *** magnet for stupid.1 -
KORJ✭✭Fist fight Duel... I support.
But the standard duel does not make sense if in game will be the arena.FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why are people so against adding new things? It's not invasive, or immersion breaking, and for the most part, the features that people request would ADD to immersion. Someone pissing your character off? Challenge them, and drive a sword through their chest.
Because most of the suggestions aren't 'new' are they? They are requests to turn 'our' latest MMO into the same one we played already.
While I recognise a degree of familiarity is important in a new game, I wish as a community we were more encouraging of 'different' rather than wanting more of the same in a new skin.
different, just for difference sake is not a good thing. You must choose what is fun and not fun in a system and go from there.
You might also think how the community at large would like said system. Would this make the game better, bring more people into the game or make people hate the game.
There is literally no downside to dueling. It can be auto declined. Kept out of cities. Will never affect your game if you don't want it to.1 -
eliisra✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, but only if they put in an option to auto decline all duels. It's really annoying when trolls just follow someone spamming a duel request.
Yeah exactly that. So annoying with duel request spammers in other games. It's usually a guy playing some sort of warrior class that absolutely must test his strength against you while you're busy clearing your bank...why is that lol?
Especially frustrating when you're running heal build and cant fight 1v1 in the first place. You would need a full re-spec to duel. Good luck explaining that to a 14-year old really brave warrior, that can't speak English and keeps hitting the same request button over and over.
I am all for duelling options (if it makes other players happy) as long as I'm left out of it.
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If there was an arena of some sort where you could 1v1 PVP, this would be a fun mechanic to add in.2 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is just one of a long line of topics ZOS will not spend 1 second to communicate with us.
Thank you ZOS for your continued silence. It's good to know you stay consistent with your theory that players don't want to know anything from you.1 -
KariTR✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »Why are people so against adding new things? It's not invasive, or immersion breaking, and for the most part, the features that people request would ADD to immersion. Someone pissing your character off? Challenge them, and drive a sword through their chest.
Because most of the suggestions aren't 'new' are they? They are requests to turn 'our' latest MMO into the same one we played already.
While I recognise a degree of familiarity is important in a new game, I wish as a community we were more encouraging of 'different' rather than wanting more of the same in a new skin.
different, just for difference sake is not a good thing. You must choose what is fun and not fun in a system and go from there.
You might also think how the community at large would like said system. Would this make the game better, bring more people into the game or make people hate the game.
There is literally no downside to dueling. It can be auto declined. Kept out of cities. Will never affect your game if you don't want it to.
TES has managed a more than modest success over the years doing its own thing. I don't think 'different for difference sake' is happening here, lol.
I speak for the community at large just as much as you do.
How do you know they could implement duelling outside of cities only? You can already 1v1 in Cyrodiil, why do you need anything more?2 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
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With my own faction? Think before post pleaseYou can already 1v1 in Cyrodiil, why do you need anything more?- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Bhakura✭✭✭✭page after page discussing with auto decline auto ignore auto accept auto this auto that, auto whateverthecrap
And only one with a brain who suggests an arena, one place where you can duel, go there because you want to duel no need for all this auto stuff.1 -
Gedalya✭✭✭✭✭I would like to see the small scall PvP shown at E3. I also like this idea (as described in this thread) in a general sense; so long as we can disable/block incoming challenge requests as I don't want WoW flashbacks.1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TES has managed a more than modest success over the years doing its own thing. I don't think 'different for difference sake' is happening here, lol.
TES has done well with being different. No question.
However, ESO had made some major system mistakes just in the name of being different, IMHO.
Leaving out dueling is one.I speak for the community at large just as much as you do.
I don't doubt that.How do you know they could implement duelling outside of cities only?
Because it is usually done that way. It is what most MMOs do with dueling.
Think of it like the way they allow horses to be in some places, but not others.You can already 1v1 in Cyrodiil, why do you need anything more?
So many reasons, but the most obvious is, i want to be able to duel with my friends when we are out exploring and have a few moments downtime.
I want to be able to duel my own faction.
In cyrodiil, you have to agree with another factioned player to meet you halfway across a huge map, just to have the off chance to get to solo duel with them, and even then you can get interrupted by other players.
There are a ton of roleplaying reasons to have it your own faction, btw. So, it does make sense to have it outside a PvP area.
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Apophiss✭✭✭
Then there should to be consequences for fighting in town.
Roll out dueling with the reputation system.
When dueling, the participants combat flags extend to the NPC's, so any AOE effects them, as it would if they were fighting in a tavern. When a NPC is injured, the guards intervene. Throw the player(s) who injured the NPC in jail, and pay a fine. The duel ends in a draw. The player(s) receive X bad reputation for assaulting a "citizen".
So rp'ers can duel in taverns. With consequences. That's real-ism!"Just when I think you have said the stupidest thing possible, you keep talking."
-Hank Hill1 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I answered No without really reading the post. I would change my vote to Yes, assuming your first provision. One thing I've hated about other MMOs I've played is all the unwanted duel requests."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
Hamfast✭✭✭✭✭In that other game, outside the Orsimer City, I would get challenged several times almost every time I passed in or out, they did not have an auto-decline, but I had an add on that did it for me... and I would just continue by... sometimes followed by emotes and other things... there were other places in that world that had the same problem.
It was another in the long list of things that other game had that just plain annoyed me... to a point I stopped playing it and found another...
If there is an auto-decline function, it will not stop the Spamming of the requests, it will just decline them... and until it's implemented, and implemented correctly we will have no idea what we will see each time a challenge is issued. It could be that we will see nothing when the challenge is declined, only to see a stream of tells, say's and other things from the challenge Spammer.
If the Auto-decline also has an ignore function (perhaps a temp ignore) that means the Challenge spammer sees "Your Challenge has been declined and you are being ignored" which hopefully will decrease the ePeen antics, even if it does not, I will be ignoring them for the time being and not be bothered.
Perhaps a Report system, like for Spam mails, "ePeen McBadazzmutha has challenged you x times, report them? "E" to report, "X" to ignore, "R" to go about your business"
That I am able to ignore the antics does not mean everyone will, someone will see "ePeen McBadazzmutha" shouting, crying and making a fool of himself, and I hope, come along and give him a full on butt whipping... but why depend on others... "ePeen McBadazzmutha has challenged you x times, report them? "E" to report and ignore, "R" to go about your business, "X" to Instant kill him, report him and totally ruin his day"Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...1 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Would support a dueling function, only if it were off by default.
The short time I played the WoW starter edition, high-ranking jackholes threw those stupid flags down around my Level 12 character all the time. It got old.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't be bothered if duelling was introduced in Cyrodil in about a year's time, i.e. when the other more pressing issues had been resolved. I don't, however, want it in the rest of the world because it would mean there'd be regular duelling locations that had to be run through with all the chat and other distractions that involves, as well as the loss of immersion in an ESO game by duelling within the players' own faction. It's a form of PvP, so keep it in the PvP area.
To be clear: I have absolutely no problem with people being able to elect to duel (given an auto opt-out as suggested), provided it is restricted to PvP areas and is placed at the bottom of a long list of game additions/improvements.
This post reminds me of someone's post in my Immersive Sleeping thread, found here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/106627/sleeping-in-beds
Why are people so against adding new things? It's not invasive, or immersion breaking, and for the most part, the features that people request would ADD to immersion. Someone pissing your character off? Challenge them, and drive a sword through their chest.
That's your playstyle, it isn't mine. The solution you suggest is precisely what the PvP area is all about, not the open world. If you want open world FFA PvP then be honest and say so, but we all know it isn't going to happen in this game.
If you want that kind of stuff then fine, but it's easy enough to have it in places where it doesn't impact on anyone else, which is all I have asked for as well as the notion that it should only be added to the game when other more pressing issues have been resolved. What's wrong with that?
PVP'ers need to make up their minds whether they want ZOS to continue to focus on reducing the lag, exploits and class imbalances in Cyrodil or divert their attention to adding fluff like duels.
Moreover, talking of fluff, someone should create (yet another) poll and ask people whether they'd rather the developers spend time on introducing duelling or housing - I think we all know what the outcome of that poll would be! However, both should wait a long while until more pressing issues have been addressed.
Edited by Tandor on June 26, 2014 6:53PM0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Tandor I believe they have separate people for fixing things and developing things.
Also, dueling would not impact your world unless you wanted it to, if you had auto decline on.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »@Tandor I believe they have separate people for fixing things and developing things.
Also, dueling would not impact your world unless you wanted it to, if you had auto decline on.
Actually it would impact on others, both for the reasons some have already given, and because duelling would lead to yet another bout of class balance whining that would end up in changes that affected everyone.
As to your first point, is it not a common complaint that making any changes to this game invariably leads to breaking other parts of it? This is not the time to be adding new features to the game, it is the time to concentrate on fixing the features it already has.0 -
Artis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I simply don't see why not. It's just one more activity we can do in-game. Of course, it should be optional meaning that I should be able to choose not to receive invites to duel at all.
However, I can understand why they don't implement it. It will uncover all the imbalance issues even more and will result in forums flooded with complaints and requests to buff or nerf something.
Of course, if 1v1 balance was perfect, then duels must be in the game. Not only it adds one more way of having fun for those who enjoy it(and I think, there's a lot of players who do), but also it makes perfect sense and fits the world of Nirn perfectly.
I mean, just look around. You can see different NPC characters dueling with each other for training purposes. Why can't we?
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Tarrin✭✭✭Always yes. It helps test build for pvpSamurai without a sword
Like a samurai with the sword
But without the sword0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭tarindiseb17_ESO wrote: »Always yes. It helps test build for pvp
The answer to, and proper place for, that is, of course - guild halls!
But not yet...
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