silver bolts .. one shot frenzy

ipong926 · June 2014

Sir, you are talking about DKs, not Vampires and especially not Werewolves.

That being said, I think there should be a fighters guild passive that allows abilities to affect "dragon related things" like DKs. Oh, and stealth capable stuff like NBs. While we're at it, it should also effect things that use magic.
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You got so far, dragon related things about DK is a class, you need somethings to affect a class?
The topic is talking about vampire / werewolf. You want to become somethings to get more benefit
But on this way, you will get weakness point as well.

Adrastes · June 2014

batswarm. suffer.

Sturmwaffel · June 2014

ipong926 wrote: »

You got so far, dragon related things about DK is a class, you need somethings to affect a class?
The topic is talking about vampire / werewolf. You want to become somethings to get more benefit
But on this way, you will get weakness point as well.

Let me explain,

Any ability that can one-shot an opponent (regardless of chance) is not in balance. I believe it is fair that vampires take additional damage from fire and what-not, but it is not fair that they should have an unskilled player be able to spam an ability at them and win.

However, when you are talking about being overpowered, I'm sure we can all agree that DKs are the strongest (read most OP) class in the game.

Don't you lie to me. We all know it.

ExiledKhallisi · June 2014

Confirmed..procing more than usual

Morticielle · June 2014

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

if 20 spam it and its 5% thats a 100% hit

just get rid of your vampire

Vollidiot!

Zxaxz · June 2014

Zxaxz wrote: »

Silver Bolt - SS with recount #1Back to Back Silver Shards #1
- #2
- #3
- #4

So far - four times out of the keeps and 4 times, this...... ROFL - I'll keep them coming

These show not only was no one else hitting me with SS, but that it hit back to back from the same person. 5%, yea right. I will post all SS's I get tonight. Might be a long post

4 - So far, and I am playing forum PvP more than the game, tonight......

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO · June 2014

oh man batswarm spammers cry that they have drawback. I see completely no issue if you die in 2 shots. I really don't care. You guys have curse and still can walk the face of Nirn at day light... Look at your fellow cursed friends warewolfs. They only have drawbacks as they can't even use their form in PvP.So adapt or get cured. Imho vamparism is nothing that should be considered as only enhanced powers to your character. Those who really wish to be vampires will adapt and embrace the danger in PvP. I see no reasson why vampire hunter would not kill you fast :-)

RedMiniStapler · June 2014

Mwahahaha I am almighty vampire, you puny humans will now down and beg for mer..... *got oneshotted by silver bolts*

ipong926 · June 2014

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

oh man batswarm spammers cry that they have drawback. I see completely no issue if you die in 2 shots. I really don't care. You guys have curse and still can walk the face of Nirn at day light... Look at your fellow cursed friends warewolfs. They only have drawbacks as they can't even use their form in PvP.So adapt or get cured. Imho vamparism is nothing that should be considered as only enhanced powers to your character. Those who really wish to be vampires will adapt and embrace the danger in PvP. I see no reasson why vampire hunter would not kill you fast :-)

ESO should add sunlight DOT when vampire walk under daily time HAHAHA~

Blooddancer · June 2014

This is all part of my plan to become Lord of the Undead by becoming the ONLY undead left in the game.

For the rest I refer you too Nelson Muntz.

iliatha · June 2014

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

to be fair, you get perks for beeing vampire why dont you accept the downs

Everyone accept the downs like getting more fire dmg. Cant believe theres still no hotfix for this.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO · June 2014

Fissh wrote: »

It's a 5% chance to hit with that damage. In my opinion, the risk of being a vamp or werewolf. As a non vamp or werewolf, what is my advantage? I will tell you, Silver Bolt. If you choose to have the added extra vamp and werewolf have, then you must suffer this 5% chance on hit. Why would we make every vamp and wolf super awesome with no down falls? It just makes it so everyone should be vamp or wolf to compete, which is BS! So suffer the disadvantage, and deal with the fact that on occasion (5%) you will vaporize :P

I wish I could give you an "Insightful" "Agree" "Awesome" AND "LOL" you said it perfectly

ipong926 · June 2014

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Fissh wrote: »

It's a 5% chance to hit with that damage. In my opinion, the risk of being a vamp or werewolf. As a non vamp or werewolf, what is my advantage? I will tell you, Silver Bolt. If you choose to have the added extra vamp and werewolf have, then you must suffer this 5% chance on hit. Why would we make every vamp and wolf super awesome with no down falls? It just makes it so everyone should be vamp or wolf to compete, which is BS! So suffer the disadvantage, and deal with the fact that on occasion (5%) you will vaporize :P

I wish I could give you an "Insightful" "Agree" "Awesome" AND "LOL" you said it perfectly

Yes exactly the same. Common sense & normal person will said that thing.
Just some players like gain more than loss will disagree

Morticielle · June 2014

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

You guys have curse and still can walk the face of Nirn at day light... Look at your fellow cursed friends warewolfs. They only have drawbacks as they can't even use their form in PvP.

So your point is if one skill line is broken, it's oK then to break other skill lines too? Zenimax must love people like you, you have to apply for a job there immediately!

Anex · June 2014

hamon wrote: »

no i dont think any skill should one shot anyone its just stupid.. especially a spammable low cost ranged instant cast...

especially when not even mentioned in the patch notes

Low cost? That attack costs a BUTTLOAD of stamina. Now, maybe it is because I'm a stamina build.. but I don't consider it "low cost" at all.

Morticielle · June 2014

ipong926 wrote: »

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

oh man batswarm spammers cry that they have drawback. I see completely no issue if you die in 2 shots. I really don't care. You guys have curse and still can walk the face of Nirn at day light... Look at your fellow cursed friends warewolfs. They only have drawbacks as they can't even use their form in PvP.So adapt or get cured. Imho vamparism is nothing that should be considered as only enhanced powers to your character. Those who really wish to be vampires will adapt and embrace the danger in PvP. I see no reasson why vampire hunter would not kill you fast :-)

ESO should add sunlight DOT when vampire walk under daily time HAHAHA~

If they would get an instant "kill everybody"-ability working at night, I'd be good with it. But this you wuld not like, would you?

SirAndy · June 2014

SirAndy wrote: »

Gonna make some good use of my crossbow while this lasts ...;-)

Guess what i did tonight?

Raash · June 2014

I personally detest vampires so I hope whatever they changed stay. Unless they change it so vampires are at half stats during daytime and really powerful only at night I see no real issue with such a logical thing as a silver bolt pretty much is a one shot.
I believe most people are angry because they paid lots of gold to become one and now they cant kill raids any longer.

redferne.requiemneb18_ESO · June 2014

Raash wrote: »

I personally detest vampires so I hope whatever they changed stay. Unless they change it so vampires are at half stats during daytime and really powerful only at night I see no real issue with such a logical thing as a silver bolt pretty much is a one shot.
I believe most people are angry because they paid lots of gold to become one and now they cant kill raids any longer.

So when they nerf the vampire abilities because they were OP and lead to an exploit, it's ok, but when it is the opposite it's not?
Seriously...
Oh and this is Elder Scrolls not Anne Rice...

Raash · June 2014

redferne.requiemneb18_ESO wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I personally detest vampires so I hope whatever they changed stay. Unless they change it so vampires are at half stats during daytime and really powerful only at night I see no real issue with such a logical thing as a silver bolt pretty much is a one shot.
I believe most people are angry because they paid lots of gold to become one and now they cant kill raids any longer.

So when they nerf the vampire abilities because they were OP and lead to an exploit, it's ok, but when it is the opposite it's not?
Seriously...
Oh and this is Elder Scrolls not Anne Rice...

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Zxaxz · June 2014

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

ipong926 · June 2014

Morticielle wrote: »

ipong926 wrote: »

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

oh man batswarm spammers cry that they have drawback. I see completely no issue if you die in 2 shots. I really don't care. You guys have curse and still can walk the face of Nirn at day light... Look at your fellow cursed friends warewolfs. They only have drawbacks as they can't even use their form in PvP.So adapt or get cured. Imho vamparism is nothing that should be considered as only enhanced powers to your character. Those who really wish to be vampires will adapt and embrace the danger in PvP. I see no reasson why vampire hunter would not kill you fast :-)

ESO should add sunlight DOT when vampire walk under daily time HAHAHA~

If they would get an instant "kill everybody"-ability working at night, I'd be good with it. But this you wuld not like, would you?

read carefully, i said DOT

Raash · June 2014

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

I wouldnt mind avoid running around night in fear for vampires really. Would just add to the excitement I think. And i dont know about one-shots, but ive seen a few vampires hold off and defeated whole raids/zergs wich I personally think is a bit out of line. ok if it could happen during night time, but not during day time.
If you ask me, it should also be impossible for a vampire to become emperor etc. Thats kind of lore beaking and not very logical. To me its like having a deadra or perhaps even a skeever on the throne.

Zxaxz · June 2014

Raash wrote: »

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

I wouldnt mind avoid running around night in fear for vampires really. Would just add to the excitement I think. And i dont know about one-shots, but ive seen a few vampires hold off and defeated whole raids/zergs wich I personally think is a bit out of line. ok if it could happen during night time, but not during day time.
If you ask me, it should also be impossible for a vampire to become emperor etc. Thats kind of lore beaking and not very logical. To me its like having a deadra or perhaps even a skeever on the throne.

What do you not know about one shots?

Silver bolts is one hitting @ 100% not 5% on Vamps and you are okay and advocating for that to continue; So with your philosophy, at night Vamps and WW should one hit everyone not Vamp / WW.

Whats not to know?

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO · June 2014

Vampirism is optional.

My complains are related to level imbalances in cyrodiil (which will be fixed with new campaigns - non vet)

And to AOE skills which I do not see as good design for Elder Scrolls game.

Veteran content I only suggested that it would be better to remove it and make questing in other alliace territories optional. It was not a complaint.

Btw do we see warewolfs raging so much on the forums? No we don't.

You can think what you want of me. I can be american kid if you so wish.
May the internet force be with you internet friend:-)

BTW I never post single word about any of my skills to be broken.(NB and Sorc player)

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Raash · June 2014

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

I wouldnt mind avoid running around night in fear for vampires really. Would just add to the excitement I think. And i dont know about one-shots, but ive seen a few vampires hold off and defeated whole raids/zergs wich I personally think is a bit out of line. ok if it could happen during night time, but not during day time.
If you ask me, it should also be impossible for a vampire to become emperor etc. Thats kind of lore beaking and not very logical. To me its like having a deadra or perhaps even a skeever on the throne.

What do you not know about one shots?

Silver bolts is one hitting Vamps and you are okay and advocating for that to continue; So with your philosophy, at night Vamps and WW should one hit everyone not Vamp / WW.

Whats not to know?

yeah you got a point there. Bring it in! I rahter have that i get one shot by a vampire or werewolf facing one 1 to 1 during night time then having vampires running amok during daytime.

ferzalrwb17_ESO · June 2014

Raash wrote: »

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

I wouldnt mind avoid running around night in fear for vampires really. Would just add to the excitement I think. And i dont know about one-shots, but ive seen a few vampires hold off and defeated whole raids/zergs wich I personally think is a bit out of line. ok if it could happen during night time, but not during day time.
If you ask me, it should also be impossible for a vampire to become emperor etc. Thats kind of lore beaking and not very logical. To me its like having a deadra or perhaps even a skeever on the throne.

What do you not know about one shots?

Silver bolts is one hitting Vamps and you are okay and advocating for that to continue; So with your philosophy, at night Vamps and WW should one hit everyone not Vamp / WW.

Whats not to know?

yeah you got a point there. Bring it in! I rahter have that i get one shot by a vampire or werewolf facing one 1 to 1 during night time then having vampires running amok during daytime.

Have you played this game in the last 6 weeks? It sounds like you, and many others here, are caught in the past.

I am levelling vampire atm for fun. I refused to become vamp when it was OP. That was fixed ages ago. I didn't pay for it either. I can tell you that the inherent weakness to fire is a real killer on it's own and is probably too much for me to not cure the Vampire line when I've finished levelling it.

This bug just breaks the game for me completely. I'm not finished levelling the vamp line yet and would rather not have to cure myself ahead of time. I want to face that decision when I am level 10 (currently 9). If you're jealous that you couldn't become vamp I will bite you for free. No one should pay for a bite. That's absurd.

Raash · June 2014

Have you played this game in the last 6 weeks? It sounds like you, and many others here, are caught in the past.

I am levelling vampire atm for fun. I refused to become vamp when it was OP. That was fixed ages ago. I didn't pay for it either. I can tell you that the inherent weakness to fire is a real killer on it's own and is probably too much for me to not cure the Vampire line when I've finished levelling it.

This bug just breaks the game for me completely. I'm not finished levelling the vamp line yet and would rather not have to cure myself ahead of time. I want to face that decision when I am level 10 (currently 9). If you're jealous that you couldn't become vamp I will bite you for free. No one should pay for a bite. That's absurd.

Ok, sounds fun for you, or not so fun now then perhaps. I however refuse to go vampire at all no matter how good, bad or weak it would get. The simple truth is that I dont like vampires, At all. They are undead and should be burned in flames. I detest the whole view of the vampire this game have that they are your everyday pal and hero. It should be the total other way around. You that have choosen to take the dark ways of vampires or werewolves should all be hunted down. And im glad we now have the tools to do so. period. I just wish there was a way to spot them in your own alliance and take them out there too.

Nickdorlandb16_ESO · June 2014

Fissh wrote: »

It's a 5% chance to hit with that damage. In my opinion, the risk of being a vamp or werewolf. As a non vamp or werewolf, what is my advantage? I will tell you, Silver Bolt. If you choose to have the added extra vamp and werewolf have, then you must suffer this 5% chance on hit. Why would we make every vamp and wolf super awesome with no down falls? It just makes it so everyone should be vamp or wolf to compete, which is BS! So suffer the disadvantage, and deal with the fact that on occasion (5%) you will vaporize :P

Thing is its not 5%, its more like 80% now ( feels like that, my friend gets one shot everytime )

hamon · June 2014

Raash wrote: »

Zxaxz wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I believe the vampired have had their fun for a really long time and now things have changed. It might have been an unintentional change, but I like it and I hope it stays. If anything I would like to see a buff for vampires during night but keep rest as it is. That just my opinion.

Sweet, so at Night all the Vampires can one shot everyone else using a 321 Stam skill, after all it is night and WTF are you doing outside at night, Right? And, we want it to be fair and the same resource drain of course.

Wait!!! Edited; We have to fight WW's at normal Vamp status during the night, they are also night creatures. And they should be able to rip your fracking head off or reach in, pull out your heart and eat it in one Bite at night, also.

Sound fair to me. Patch it in.. Deal.

I wouldnt mind avoid running around night in fear for vampires really. Would just add to the excitement I think. And i dont know about one-shots, but ive seen a few vampires hold off and defeated whole raids/zergs wich I personally think is a bit out of line. ok if it could happen during night time, but not during day time.
If you ask me, it should also be impossible for a vampire to become emperor etc. Thats kind of lore beaking and not very logical. To me its like having a deadra or perhaps even a skeever on the throne.

god can you get over the butthurt about when batswarm was broken and spammable.. nobody was saying that was fine. it was clearly broken and got fixed.

hating on vamps and saying they deserve to be one shot now is just childish bitterness.