Thanks for ruins all addons!

AlexDougherty · June 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

So you're blaming ZO for independently-developed addons not being updated yet?

I guess this patch really did fix everything if we're down to complaining about this.

Tabbycat wrote: »

Every major patch messes up your addons. This is true of every MMO I've played with addons. Modders will update the ones that need to be updated. The ones that don't need to be updated, you should be able to load as outdated.

^^These^^

Zos is not responsible for addons, any update can render addons useless, and this update was needed.

Now if your going to complain, complain about the size of the update.

kieso · June 2014

I use around 7...

30 odd is just excessive..

PBpsy · June 2014

Rosveen wrote: »

Vuron wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

As for me: I'll better unsub than play at default UI.

That's your problem.

The game is perfectly fine with the default UI. You don't need addons to play, and you certainly don't need 30 of them. More importantly, ZO is not responsible for your addons. They can change their game however they like. It is the responsibility of addon creators to change their addons when needed.

C'mon, you and I both know that there is a very large percentage of the playerbase that would completely disagree that "the game is perfectly fine with the default UI".

Even ZOS knows that the UI is severely lacking and only works for the strictly TES players.

Because TES players are used to atrocious UIs? -_- Minimalistic style is one thing, but the shotcomings of inventory interface and especially the guild store don't work for anyone.

I am a TES player and I am not used to atrocious UI since I have always used mods to get rid of whatever atrocious UI the guys from Beth came up with,

Most people want a little more from their game than 'playable'.

SilverWF · June 2014

I don't care about size of update.
I'm care about my addons only.

SilverWF · June 2014

kieso wrote: »

I use around 7...

30 odd is just excessive..

7 addons, lol

Vendersleigh · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

Vendersleigh wrote: »

I have never played a TES game before but enjoy ESO with no addons.

So be happy with it and didn't teach anothers how they need to play.

My point is that it is not something you need but something you want.
Everyone knows that add-ons are not ZOS' responsibility so addressing your complaint to the makers of the add-ons would be more reasonable.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2014

xMovingTarget wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

kieso wrote: »

/lol"30 add ons" lol

How many you have?

I also have around 30. Mostly because the standard UI doesnt give the simplest informations. So you actually need em. If you had em once, you never want without em. Its the small Addons about Guild Stores, Inventory etc that makes the amount of installed addons that big.

Some of em are not that important. But most of em should be like integrated into the regular Vanilla UI.

The Vanilla UI also isnt enough for the more hardcore players. Also theres still no Target Dummy ingame to test DPS etc. But thats a different story.

Just because some of you have the opinion that Addons are useless and the standard ui is sufficient, doesnt mean it is for everyone. There are people around that like to play ESO as what it is. A freaking MMO! And thats why so many Addons are needed for these People.

Anyways, just my 2 cents.

While i don't think most of them are needed and the game can be played fine with out i do enjoy them. I think most people are starting to take issue with the fact that this person is using addons but doesn't actually want to do anything to use them.

For example he says they all are broken. They aren't all broken. Yet he wont take the steps to figure out which ones are working. Just keeps coming back posting about how they are all broken and zeni should fix it. Oh and all the addon makers have quit so the game is shutting down.

I think most people in this thread agree addons are good. But i think most people in this thread also agree you take some personal responsibility when an addon quits working to figure out which one it is and how to get around it.

kewl · June 2014

@SilverWF Post your error messages on the developers site. I'm sure many of them are hard at work, fixing issues. It will take some time.

xMovingTarget · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Now if your going to complain, complain about the size of the update.

Holy [snip] [snip]. That [snip] is huge!

For some reason i had to download the whole thing again.. Its still downloading..

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

SilverWF · June 2014

kewl wrote: »

@SilverWF Post your error messages on the developers site. I'm sure many of them are hard at work, fixing issues. It will take some time.

You are sure? I know most of them are unsubbed!

Luisen · June 2014

30 addons.. so many damage WoW did...
I only have the minimap addon and I'm happy. Seriously!

I did most of the content and still I don't see the need to install more addons.

Edited:
I'm a liar, I have 2 addons: Minimap and clock. :P

SilverWF · June 2014

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

30 addons.. so many damage WoW did...
I only have the minimap addon and I'm happy. Seriously!

I did most of the content and still I don't see the need to install more addons.

Why you posted this here?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · June 2014

Developers unsubbed? That's an entirely new level of rant.

Please try a little harder to understand what you read before responding. Or, if you didn't mean what I thought you meant: try a little harder to make us understand you.

SilverWF · June 2014

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

Developers unsubbed? That's an entirely new level of rant. Please try a little harder to understand what you read before responding.

Addon developers maybe?
"Please try a little harder to understand what you read before responding"

andre.roques.3b14_ESO · June 2014

ZOS is not responsible for the addons but they are responsible for the API. Generally speaking it is considered poor business practice to have an API that isn't initially well thought out enough so that it is a constantly moving target. Normally, data items that should no longer be used get deprecated as warning that future releases will likely drop support. I do think ZOS is still doing a fair job with the game, but a little love for addon developers would be nice.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

xMovingTarget wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Now if your going to complain, complain about the size of the update.

For some reason i had to download the whole thing again.. Its still downloading..

My sympathies, it was over two hours for me, not sure I could do that again today.

andre.roques.3b14_ESO · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

Addon developers maybe?
"Please try a little harder to understand what you read before responding"

Agreed, that the last thing we as a community want to do is alienate the generous contributions of the addon developers.

SilverWF · June 2014

I have 54 addons, but this is my own business only. You may have more or less - I don't care.

This thread about unnecessary and not documented API changes!

Darzil · June 2014

I don't have minimap. However, I very much value add ons that automatically mark vendor trash as junk, destroy worthless stuff (so I don't leave worms lying around and can autoloot), tell me which items in my inventory/bank have traits I haven't yet researched, tell me research timers without having to be at a crafting station, tell me what traits I know without having to be at a crafting station, and restack the guild bank so no one has to do it manually.

It's almost becoming like inventory management is no longer the game!

Fortunately most worked fine post patch.

Luisen · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

30 addons.. so many damage WoW did...
I only have the minimap addon and I'm happy. Seriously!

I did most of the content and still I don't see the need to install more addons.

Why you posted this here?

Due this post:

I'm using more than 30 addons, I just don't want to check every of them! ><
Especially, if there was no reasons to change API so hardly again.

Rosveen · June 2014

I'm using 15. My bare essentials are maybe half of that: just crafting, inventory filters, guild store search and Librarian (which also wouldn't be necessary if Eidetic Memory worked properly).

I understand why add-ons are important to you - I want to keep my core ones too - but 54 seems a bit excessive. That's just my opinion though. But still, ESO developers aren't in any way resposible for your add-ons, so have some patience and hope the modders release updates soon.

SilverWF · June 2014

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

30 addons.. so many damage WoW did...
I only have the minimap addon and I'm happy. Seriously!

I did most of the content and still I don't see the need to install more addons.

Why you posted this here?

Due this post:

I'm using more than 30 addons, I just don't want to check every of them! ><
Especially, if there was no reasons to change API so hardly again.

I didn't see a question "how many you have?" in this post

vicviper0_ESO · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

I have 54 addons, but this is my own business only. You may have more or less - I don't care.

This thread about unnecessary and not documented API changes!

no. this thread is about you being butthurt because the ESO DEVs did their job by adding content to the game witch resulted in your third party addons no longer working

AlexDougherty · June 2014

SilverWF wrote: »

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

luisenglb16_ESO wrote: »

30 addons.. so many damage WoW did...
I only have the minimap addon and I'm happy. Seriously!

I did most of the content and still I don't see the need to install more addons.

Why you posted this here?

Due this post:

I'm using more than 30 addons, I just don't want to check every of them! ><
Especially, if there was no reasons to change API so hardly again.

I didn't see a question "how many you have?" in this post

At least two posters on the first page said how many apps they were using, it was probably a response to one of those.

Darzil · June 2014

vicviper0_ESO wrote: »

no. this thread is about you being butthurt because the ESO DEVs did their job by adding content to the game witch resulted in your third party addons no longer working

I really look forward to them adding content to the UI so I can start switching third party addons off!

DAOC did that when the community came up with good ones!

RedTalon · June 2014

Sometimes I'm glad I have 0 addons.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

RedTalon wrote: »

Sometimes I'm glad I have 0 addons.

Me too, just reading these out a bemused sense of curiosity.

Hamfast · June 2014

This is a Hijack post in this thread...

Look over there, its a Nord wearing a Pink Tutu... and he's ugly

(you must now all comment on the Ugly Nord in the pink Tutu)

kewl · June 2014

andre.roques.3b14_ESO wrote: »

ZOS is not responsible for the addons but they are responsible for the API. Generally speaking it is considered poor business practice to have an API that isn't initially well thought out enough so that it is a constantly moving target. Normally, data items that should no longer be used get deprecated as warning that future releases will likely drop support. I do think ZOS is still doing a fair job with the game, but a little love for addon developers would be nice.

This & this.

SilverWF · June 2014

All ppl in the World are not responsible for you, but you are expecting some care from some of them.