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Hundings rage was stealth nerfed

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Wifeaggro13
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FYI reduced from 21% weapon damage to standard 21 weapon damage . not good for melee
  • MongooseOne
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    Magicka Furnace 5 set piece bonus was also changed..5 second cooldown to 30 second....and i just found complete set yesterday too :neutral_face:
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Not in patch notes either. Hell in a hand basket.
  • aipex8_ESO
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    The 5 piece was bugged anyway. They probably just fixed it by adjusting the tool tip.
  • Kangle
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    Great. My NB needed a nerf.
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    Bugged items seem to be breeding a lot of "bugged" tool tips these days.
  • Ser Lobo
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    I'm not understanding why 'not in patch notes' is such an issue. I like to read the patch notes myself, but it's a general idea.

    Guess I'm used to games that give very broad, very bland patch notes, if they give
    any at all.

    Still makes no sense to me to feel 'insulted' or 'lied to'.
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  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.
  • SilentThunder
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    well if hundings does ANYTHING its a buff as previously you did not get the weapon damage 5 piece bonus at all.
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  • Dredlord
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    demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »
    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.

    are you sure your math is correct?
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »
    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.

    are you sure your math is correct?

    LOL, he got you there. I think a rudimentary math class is in order.
  • niocwy
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    EDIT : I need coffee...

    Forget what I said.
    Edited by niocwy on June 25, 2014 6:00AM
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  • dido9880ub17_ESO
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    Uhh... well with the numbers he put up there for weapon damage 21% would be ~33 damage which is higher than 21...
  • Liquid_Time
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    Depends on the base damage you have.. Could be better, could be worse. 21% of anything can be great if the base amount is very high...
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  • Hilgara
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    21% of 160 is 32....which if my maths serves me correct is more than 21
  • Worstluck
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    Can anyone confirm in game that this set is adding 21 weapon damage? I never bothered crafting it because I always heard it was broke.
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  • Bromburak
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    demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote:
    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.
    niocwy wrote: »
    21 raw weapon damage is better than 21%. @demonlkojipub19_ESO is correct, this is not a nerf, it's a slight buff.

    Please take some lessons in math , its helpful.

    Average weapon damage builds have 150-180.

    21% of 160 = 33,6 weapon damage.

    33,6 is 60% more damage of 21.
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    Hundings does not reflect it's bonus on any of my bow skills. Just FYI
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    It's probably still broken. They've tried to fix it what, twice now?
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  • Hilgara
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    Bromburak wrote: »
    demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote:
    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.
    niocwy wrote: »
    21 raw weapon damage is better than 21%. @demonlkojipub19_ESO is correct, this is not a nerf, it's a slight buff.

    Please take some lessons in math , its helpful.

    Average weapon damage builds have 150-180.

    21% of 160 = 33,6 weapon damage.

    33,6 is 60% more damage of 21.

    erm...actually its about 33% more

    Edited by Hilgara on June 25, 2014 6:22AM
  • Knack666
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    testet Hundings Rage yesterday, BEFORE the patch, and found out, that der Weapondamage-Gain was only aplied to stamina-weapons. (Not to destruction stuff :( ) But i only tested it with destruction stuff and two weapons.
    And it was a procentual gain.

    Looking forward to test it today again^^ Maybe crafting it wasn't total worthless to me now.
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »
    Actually 21 is better than the 21% it was. Hundings increased WEAPON DAMAGE, the number you see in your character sheet. 21 at all times is going to be better than 21% if its that now. like my weapon damage is 160 with 2h at purple, 21% is less than 21 with that.

    are you sure your math is correct?

    he's actually correct, it wasn't even working before.
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    I tested the damage compared with the siphoning strikes ability that reduces 22% the weapon dmg. So when you use a weapon ability the damage with the set + siphoning strikes toggled on should be = damage without the set and sipho toggled off, but it isn t. Dmg of the set it's really poor, it add only +16 dmg per hit when i use flying blade so i think it's an useless set.
    Edited by sagitter on June 25, 2014 6:34AM
  • Bhakura
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    So much raging over an item called rage ... it didnt steal its name i guess.
  • Valn
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    Can someone print screen the tooltip please. Does it say increases weapon damage? Or did it just change the value on the tooltip to 21? So increases weapon damage by 21 when using weapon abilities?
  • Sethyss
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    Well.

    I see their plan to make stamina based builds more viable is going off without any hitches...
  • Catches_the_Sun
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    For all the piling on this guy for his math, have you considered he's comparing 2 different things? Weapon damage % as in pct addition to the actual damage you do vs Weapon damage in the character sheet.
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  • NekOnOkO
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    It wasn't working before, so i'll consider this to be a buff ^^.
    Edited by NekOnOkO on June 25, 2014 7:08AM
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    It was working before. Weapon damage is, however, only a part of the calculation for weapon ability damage. So it was confusing. To give it a straight-up buff to weapon damage makes it simpler (if that's what it is - I haven't checked yet) and will be a nerf for most people when using weapon abilities. However it will also apply to basic attacks where it did not before. I would consider this a reasonable trade-off. The flat number of 21, however, is a bit odd. [snip]
    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 22, 2025 7:35PM
  • Mori
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    sigh...
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Hunding rage did work before but not the full amount due to diminishing returns.

    It depended what ability you used and how close you were on ability damage cap.
    Eg Uppercut was getting 8% buff while Executioner was getting 12% and Brawler 15% on Hunding Rage 18%. (Blue V6 2H weapon)

    With White V5 weapon against same mobs, it was doing close to 18%.


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