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As a DK, how do you feel about these latest nerfs in 1.2.3?
Ragnar_Lodbrok
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As a DK, how do you feel about these latest nerfs in 1.2.3? 98 votes
Hate it.
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27 votes
Love it.
72%
71 votes
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Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Love it.I will not be satisfied until we are the weakest class in history of MMOs.
I may be waiting a while... Oh well. We don't always get what we want, do we?Edited by Rosveen on June 24, 2014 7:31PM1 -
xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I dont care. wasnt using talons nor whip anyway
It doesnt affect my build at all. 1 -
Falmer✭✭✭✭Love it.Guess I will have to choose Love it, since I definitely don't Hate it.
I use talons on my DK fire mage, but honestly... a shorter duration on the DoT is nothing.. Nothing much lives longer than 3 seconds anyway.1 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Love it.Even though I play a tanking DK I almost hope for nerfs every patch, cause I know ragnar will be all melodramatic all over the forums during the day. Makes for entertaining reads between compiles.2 -
madangrypally✭✭✭✭
(Buff) Extended Chains (Fiery Grip morph): This ability’s cost has been decreased.
(wash) Fiery Grip: This ability will no longer taunt monsters that already have an active taunt on them
(Buff) Flame Lash (Lava Whip morph): Increased the damage and healing for this ability’s activated follow-up attack
(Nerf) Molten Whip (Lava Whip morph): This ability’s slotted passive only applies to Ardent Flame skill line abilities instead of all fire damage.
This is a decent nerf to those using a Flame Destruction Staff. It is only minor most other DKs.
(bug fix buff) Choking Talons: You will no longer be charged twice the required magicka amount to use this ability.
(buff) Dragon Leap: This ability’s minimum range requirement has been removed.
(unsure) Burning Talons (Dark Talons morph): Decreased this ability’s damage-over-time duration.
This could either be a buff or a nerf. If the duration was decreased but its damage was left the same then its a buff. If its duration was deceased and its damage decreased then its a nerf. Overall most DKs spam this anyway so less duration is pointless to spammers.
(silly) Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): This ability now increases the healing you deal to allies for 5 seconds instead of increasing your shield value.
This is just silly and cant fathom this change until I test it. Seems like it will be a nerf to some and a buff to others. Be nice if it just made those effected by the shield receive increased healing.
(??) Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): This ability’s healing buff no longer stacks.
The healing buff was applied to this patch and already a patch not fixing stacking issues.
(buff) Petrify: This ability now damages enemies when the effect ends.
Overall I think DKs got a slight buff to most builds.5 -
Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Love it.Just because you decided to sum it all up as "nerfs." Some things were nerfed, many were buffed.
While I am against all nerfs, it does not mean I am going to assume the entire patch had no buffs.Edited by Vis on June 24, 2014 7:47PMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Syndy✭✭✭Love it.I imagine this one fix alone will hurt DKs more than the rest of changes...
Automatic crowd-control immunity and crowd-control break immunity will now protect you from the same types of crowd-control.Syndy - VR14 Breton Templar
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babylon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alerting OP to missing poll option: I just want them to bring the servers back up.0 -
Saltypretzels✭✭✭✭another fail poll. Why do we have to be so hot or cold about it? Where's the "Some of these things are good, some are bad" option?0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭f0rgiv3n27b14_ESO wrote: »I imagine this one fix alone will hurt DKs more than the rest of changes...
Automatic crowd-control immunity and crowd-control break immunity will now protect you from the same types of crowd-control.
Unless they added CC immunity to talons after it wears off/is dodge rolled out of, I don't think so.0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Love it.Very nice patch. We just need about 100 more of these and the game will be awesome0 -
xanikk999✭✭✭Hate it.Blackwidow wrote: »Very nice patch. We just need about 100 more of these and the game will be awesome
Nerfing DKs does nothing to fix the broken stamina builds FYI.
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Indifferent.
However the biggest nerf to my DK which no one has yet listed. Only Dark Elf specific......but there are many DEDK's.
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Flame Talent: Ranks II and III of this passive ability now provide the correct amount of spell damage bonus to fire attacks.
And before you say that's not specifically a nerf because it is too vague (whole other issue), I will bet you a stack of sweetrolls that it is....and probably pretty significant.
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demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Whats the proper amount of spell damage bonus tho? Was it providing less than it was supposed to, or was it providing more than it was supposed to?
Wrong words...Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on June 24, 2014 8:09PM0 -
xanikk999✭✭✭Hate it.Why are people so happy to see ANY class nerfed?
What is it envy? Jealousy that your class is not as powerful? The game is not balanced in more than just the area of classes. It requires substantial buffs to other areas such as stamina builds and NB and Templars for that balance.
It's sad to see other people take such delight in seeing other peoples builds ruined.1 -
seanolan✭✭✭✭Still trying to figure out what the OP considered the nerfs. Few nerfs, mostly buffs. WTH are you talking about Ragnar Lodbrook? [snip]
[edited for flaming]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 4, 2026 6:53PM0 -
xanikk999✭✭✭Hate it.Still trying to figure out what the OP considered the nerfs. Few nerfs, mostly buffs. WTH are you talking about Ragnar Lodbrook? [snip]
They nerfed burning talons AGAIN. Kind of annoyed with the nerfs added on top of more nerfs to the same ability patch after patch.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 4, 2026 6:53PM2 -
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✭Hate it.
Ya that guy you quoted is probably on the ESO Defense Squad, it looks like nothing but buffs to those people
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 4, 2026 6:54PM0 -
Love it.DK's can still spam shield charge and talons and kill you.
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FunkyBudda✭✭✭Hate it.Why are people so happy to see ANY class nerfed?
What is it envy? Jealousy that your class is not as powerful? The game is not balanced in more than just the area of classes. It requires substantial buffs to other areas such as stamina builds and NB and Templars for that balance.
It's sad to see other people take such delight in seeing other peoples builds ruined.
I wasn't until Sorc's BE got nerfed. So now when I see other classes get nerfed, I smile and hope for more.
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Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hate it.FunkyBudda wrote: »Why are people so happy to see ANY class nerfed?
What is it envy? Jealousy that your class is not as powerful? The game is not balanced in more than just the area of classes. It requires substantial buffs to other areas such as stamina builds and NB and Templars for that balance.
It's sad to see other people take such delight in seeing other peoples builds ruined.
I wasn't until Sorc's BE got nerfed. So now when I see other classes get nerfed, I smile and hope for more.
You mean the same sorcs laughing at DKs every patch? Youve had ONE nerf weve had 4 or 5 patches of nerfs (I lost count)0 -
Mumyo✭✭✭✭✭Hate it.Srsly. Zenimax is buffing a class that is able to wipe an entire raid by pushing one single button and they rly got the balls to call that a nerf.
My theorie is that Zenimax will never nerf dk's because like 60% of the players are dk's and would quit after a real nerf putting the class on the other classes lvl.
the buffs on nightblade and templars are a joke.
weird that almost every single emperor is a fukin dk because its like ez mode spamming flags and *** everyone close by.
keep up the good work zenimax!
im not a fan of nerfs but dk's are like gods in this game and no other class comes close to it. With a DK in ur group u are a winner.
I promise u DK's dont worry there will never be a nerf and the other classes buffs are pretty much like a cheap try to manipulate us believing we got buffed,.0 -
hk11✭✭✭✭Hate it.71% of those polled enjoy the suffering of others
I dont even play a DK anymore. Edited by hk11 on June 24, 2014 9:06PM0 -
Arora✭✭✭Love it.yeah nightblades still get the short end of the stickArora Moon - EB- Nightblade
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madangrypally wrote: »
Overall I think DKs got a slight buff to most builds.
You had albeit a slightly more extensive but nearly in sync analysis as my post from mid last night.
Guess I am not so confused.
Bottom line, in terms of RvR until they remove the 'I win' chain pull button this class will always be OP.
BAD design flaw.
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