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Even nowadays (3 years later)Is maybe Skyrim having more players by day than ESO?
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Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
I'd say it was the kill cams that Bethesda borrowed from their other franchise Fallout.
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Hoamaii✭✭✭The only people who are crying are:
1. Skyrim fans
2. TES fans
3. WoW and other "main" MMO players.
Actually, that may be the very heart of ESO's problem. If it was not targeting precisely these people, "Skyrim & TES fans" meets "WoW and main MMO players", who the hell was it addressing? Nancy Drews' fans?.. Come on!
Every new product is designed to target one or several existing communities. Why do you think it was called TES Online if not to attract TES players?"You can learn more about someone in an hour of gaming than in a whole year of conversation" - Plato1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭The only people who are crying are:
1. Skyrim fans
2. TES fans
3. WoW and other "main" MMO players.
Actually, that may be the very heart of ESO's problem. If it was not targeting precisely these people, "Skyrim & TES fans" meets "WoW and main MMO players", who the hell was it addressing? Nancy Drews' fans?.. Come on!
Every new product is designed to target one or several existing communities. Why do you think it was called TES Online if not to attract TES players?
Exactly. You call a game Elder Scrolls online and then you see posts like the one by Hoamaii...ok...Edited by RazielSR on June 24, 2014 4:45PM0 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
Dragon fighting rings the bell of a lot of high fantasy fans, as well as people who like fantasy in general, imo. The Nordic/Viking themes are icing on the cake.1 -
stabbykitteh✭✭✭✭As hard as it is to believe, there are lots folks out there who have zero interest in playing any sort of multiplayer. Some of them are even huge TES fans.
Also, mods.0 -
Slash8915✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
Dragon fighting rings the bell of a lot of high fantasy fans, as well as people who like fantasy in general, imo. The Nordic/Viking themes are icing on the cake.
But see, a lot of people I know that play/played Skyrim had most likely never played another RPG in their lives. They were all FPS/ sports game players.1 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
Can't speak for others, but I'd played Oblivion and really liked it. Then saw another TES game hit the market - and I was sold. Played it, and liked it even more than Oblivion, as it seemed to facilitate more player choice and freedom of maneuver.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
Dragon fighting rings the bell of a lot of high fantasy fans, as well as people who like fantasy in general, imo. The Nordic/Viking themes are icing on the cake.
But see, a lot of people I know that play/played Skyrim had most likely never played another RPG in their lives. They were all FPS/ sports game players.
It is because of Beth. They are artists and know how to deal with their games. It is their soul.
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Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Guilds are leaving because there is nothing to do? I bet 95% of those guilds haven't beaten 90% of the content.
Beaten every vet dungeon, every craglorn dungeon, every public dungeon, etc?
If so, maybe it's time to ask yourselves how much content you realistically can expect from an MMO in it's first 6 months.
And while @RazielSR is complaining, feel free to share another AAA MMO that had more content 6 months into release.
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »Guilds are leaving because there is nothing to do? I bet 95% of those guilds haven't beaten 90% of the content.
Beaten every vet dungeon, every craglorn dungeon, every public dungeon, etc?
If so, maybe it's time to ask yourselves how much content you realistically can expect from an MMO in it's first 6 months.
And while @RazielSR is complaining, feel free to share another AAA MMO that had more content 6 months into release.
But dont you see that is even worst? If they leave before they completed content it is because the game is failing! Because it has no interest!
the problem is not the lack of content, it is HOW the content is. And the vet ranks mechanics are the worst thing.0 -
Sighlynce✭✭✭Bah, I quit playing Skyrim 2 months after release.
Too many bugs and glitches that ruined the game for me.
To this day, I can't touch it.
Compared to ESO, it looks horrible.
You should go back and try it. The modding community has made skyrim what it is, It's scores more atmospheric, less buggy, looks better, fixes some gameplay mechanics and adjusts the UI enough to make it a really amazing game.
Gotta go back and try it again
! Seriously ! If you do , I really recommend Frostfall and Realistic Needs & Diseases. Awesome 
"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax0 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Was looking at some older threads in the Main Quest forum, and I picked up on a good point: Plot isn't nearly as important in an MMO as it is in a single-player RPG, and we can see that in practice.
MMO plots are almost entirely forgettable, whereas folks remember plots and uber-villians in good RPGs. What memorable characters will we talk about in ESO five years down the road? Ten years? Folks who play MMOs generally care only about measuring epeens with each other in terms of cool gear and accomplishments - so story just isn't as important.
Contrast that with good single-player RPGs, like Final Fantasy VII. Who can forget a villain like Sephiroth? And the stories in really good single-player RPGs stick with you for a long time.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭Was looking at some older threads in the Main Quest forum, and I picked up on a good point: Plot isn't nearly as important in an MMO as it is in a single-player RPG, and we can see that in practice.
MMO plots are almost entirely forgettable, whereas folks remember plots and uber-villians in good RPGs. What memorable characters will we talk about in ESO five years down the road? Ten years? Folks who play MMOs generally care only about measuring epeens with each other in terms of cool gear and accomplishments - so story just isn't as important.
Contrast that with good single-player RPGs, like Final Fantasy VII. Who can forget a villain like Sephiroth? And the stories in really good single-player RPGs stick with you for a long time.
You have a good point. And appropriately, i think anyways, the company with a MMO that bucks that trend is Square-Enix. For all the soul-crushingness of it, Final Fantasy XI has one of the deepest storylines i have ever seen in a game MMO or otherwise.
Hell if SE hadn't sold their souls to the mighty demon DLC(DownLoadable Content), i would prolly still have a sub on good ole Siren server.0 -
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I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
For me, it was my fourteen-year-old son. Sitting there watching him kill a dragon hooked me right in. I stayed not because of him, but because of the storylines, the graphics, the characters, the MODS, and the inspiration for artwork and fanfiction. Interestingly enough, mods excluded, those are the exact reasons I love ESO.---
Love all, trust few, do wrong to no one. - William Shakespeare1