Official 1.2.3 Patch Notes

Ifthir_ESO · June 2014

SirJesto wrote: »

Some people use the PTS to try and stay "ahead" of other players in the "race to nowhere"

Yeah those same players aren't reporting bugs, they are exploiting them once they hit live. They aren't PTS testers, they are people trying to get every tiny advantage they can so when it comes to measure their e-peens, they can say theirs is a millimeter longer than the other guys'.

Syrrisdevlin · June 2014

bandage106rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Why do I not see anything new in the patch notes?...I'm happy we got this patch so soon but in all of the balance threads in developer discussions it has been said that those would not be the final patch notes and they were still working on further updates.

Nightblades still need more balancing, stamina builds including heavy armour also needs some definite looking into, so come patch day and nothing has really changed infact I've experienced almost all of this content in the PTS already, it's a little depressing.

Isnt that the point of the PTS is to try the stuff out befor it goes live. now what would be the point of having a PTS if they go and add stuff that wasn't tested might as well close up the PTS and just roll the patches to live if that's the case. if you don't wanna see the the same stuff on PTS when it goes live don't go to PTS. in their comment of this wont be the final patch notes and still working on further updates its exactly that further updates

dastone · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Stop using trials as some gold standard for player builds. Fricken seriously.

Im sick of every skill being measured vs trials.

Also, challenge accepted, ive got a vr12 DW Medium Armor Siphoner ready to roll at a moments notice, let me know.

Hint - My build out DPS's most Sorcs. Only the very few exceptionals beat my deeps. So yeah. There it is, I said it.

Hint 2 - I dont use siphoning strikes in the build. le gasp!

At the end of my rope with this mentality that Destro/Light makes everything else garbage, because that mentality in itself is garbage.

Edit to add: NBs got a massive buff today too for spell damage, rut ro.

You might have the dps of a sorc in certain cases but you don't have their utility or cc or survive ability you get from being ranged

I see no evidence of this massive buff you speak of. Care to explain?

Rubberlad · June 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

"This version contains our second major content update"

Which, like the first adds new content aimed and the vansihingly small minority who are able to actually play it .. like your friends in Entropy Rising.

For the rest of us, the vast majority, there is no new content this time either.

Has there ever been a game that hates or discourages solo/duo gameplay as much as this one? I take no issue with the Craglorn group content as it was needed. However, we did not need a new Veteran dungeon in this update. No one was requesting more group content. I suppose maybe that's why it is being released - ZOS delivers content it wants and not content that players want.

Even worse, it would appear that there is no new solo/duo content in next month's update, either, unless you consider armor dyes to be content.

You're looking at it all wrong.

New group content for level-capped players does two things:

1) It gets maxed-out players who've canceled their subs a reason to subscribe again.
2) New group content at the level cap has more opportunity to double/triple the number of account reactivations than new lvl-cap solo content (which may only net 1/4 of canceled subs).

Right approach by Zenimax but you're also right as well - this content should've been added for the *lower* levels where most of the existing playerbase is currently (whether its first, second or third toon on one's account). There's more likelihood of players at the bottom of the subscriber pyramid pulling players in from other games because:

a) it's an easy jumping-on point
b) everyone can group together and roll through the content

Hate to say it, but Zenimax is really showing how strategically naive they are when it comes to mapping out add-on content for an MMO game. They do such a great job in single-player sandbox games, but the MMO space? They've still got quite a learning curve to overcome.

Islyn · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I suppose youd question a screencap I have of my templar hitting 16k HPS during an anom grind?

No, but I am a NB too, so please DO PM me your build (the one w/o siphoning strikes) so I can have a try

Syrrisdevlin · June 2014

camelknightb16_ESO wrote: »

Sounds like a good patch. However, still missing the auto-stack in the guildbank. With a stuffed guildbank, it takes ages to take everything into my own bags and stack it there so it can be dropped into the guildbank again. Would love to see that in a very near-future patch.

get the Roomba addon it does all that for you with just a couple clicks 1 click to scan another to start it

Ifthir_ESO · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I suppose youd question a screencap I have of my templar hitting 16k HPS during an anom grind?

given that you have 3 vet characters it's safe to say you are spending a lot of time on ESO and Ill take your word for it

Grizzly_UK · June 2014

born2beagator wrote: »

Do we have an eta? Is this going live today or is today just maintenance

According to the notice at the top of the forums:

We will be performing maintenance on the North American megaserver on Tuesday, June 24 at 8:00am EDT, and at 10:00pm EDT for the European megaserver to release Update 2. We expect this maintenance to last a few hours.

So it's going live today for the NA megaserver and time difference means it will be 02:00 GMT June 25 for European players on the EU megaserver. The servers get patched during maintenance and once the servers become available we get to download the new patch and play. Just no actual ETA on when the servers will be available.

born2beagator · June 2014

Grizzly_UK wrote: »

born2beagator wrote: »

Do we have an eta? Is this going live today or is today just maintenance

According to the notice at the top of the forums:

We will be performing maintenance on the North American megaserver on Tuesday, June 24 at 8:00am EDT, and at 10:00pm EDT for the European megaserver to release Update 2. We expect this maintenance to last a few hours.

So it's going live today for the NA megaserver and time difference means it will be early hours of June 25 for European players on the EU megaserver. The servers get patched during maintenance and once the servers become available we get to download the new patch and play. Just no actual ETA on when the servers will be available.

Cool. I didn't want an eta of when we could play, just wanted to know if this patch was going live today

ZOS_GinaBruno · June 2014

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Rylana · June 2014

dastone wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Stop using trials as some gold standard for player builds. Fricken seriously.

Im sick of every skill being measured vs trials.

Also, challenge accepted, ive got a vr12 DW Medium Armor Siphoner ready to roll at a moments notice, let me know.

Hint - My build out DPS's most Sorcs. Only the very few exceptionals beat my deeps. So yeah. There it is, I said it.

Hint 2 - I dont use siphoning strikes in the build. le gasp!

At the end of my rope with this mentality that Destro/Light makes everything else garbage, because that mentality in itself is garbage.

Edit to add: NBs got a massive buff today too for spell damage, rut ro.

You might have the dps of a sorc in certain cases but you don't have their utility or cc or survive ability you get from being ranged

I see no evidence of this massive buff you speak of. Care to explain?

1. Any sorc using impulse/pulsar cannot claim they are a ranged class as it is a PBAoE, hell Steel Tornado actually has more "range" by that metric, as its a bigger radius.

2. No nightblade worth his/her salt isnt running cloak somewhere in the rotation, survivability? Please. Also, Sap essence (a core ability of my primary build) is a massive heal, didnt you know that? Couple that with bats on one ultimate and youre pretty much guaranteed to not die. Put bolster/veil on the other for group utility.

3. Youve got me on CC, that I can only do with my Bow effectively, the CC in the NB lines is pretty weak, but that being said, its not a DPS classes JOB to CC. Sorcs sort of fill a place that crosses and blurs two distinct roles in this game. That being said, I could slot some CC abilities, they just arent very strong ones.

4. Buff: 14% reduced cost on stamina abilities as of today, increased damage to spells coming out of stealth (stack up a high spell damage sap nail two/three tornadoes, recloak, rinse repeat), blocking may be "optional" using that rotation, so stamina saving becomes a relative non-issue. You seem to forget that Nightblades using medium armor already have stamina regen to rival even a light armor users magicka regen, couple that with 1/6th redux (approx) in costs to cast stam abilities, and we are talking a 15% or so immediate increase in raw damage output. It could potentially be more than that. I need to test it to make sure everything works as the patch notes earlier described.

Whisper292 · June 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Did you make any changes to the original notes other than the pictures? They're gorgeous, by the way. Just wondering about the rest.

Arsenic_Touch · June 2014

Whisper292 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Did you make any changes to the original notes other than the pictures? They're gorgeous, by the way. Just wondering about the rest.

Aside from the pictures, I don't see anything altered.

chaosme · June 2014

Whisper292 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Did you make any changes to the original notes other than the pictures? They're gorgeous, by the way. Just wondering about the rest.

I looked through the reposted patch notes and it does look like the only difference is that instead of [Insert images here] we have actual screenshots.

Synozeer · June 2014

Some duplicate entries were removed as well, but for the overall patch content (just skimming over it) I didn't see anything else changed.

bandage106rwb17_ESO · June 2014

Whisper292 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Did you make any changes to the original notes other than the pictures? They're gorgeous, by the way. Just wondering about the rest.

Yeah there is a change to nightblade I didn't notice before allowing us to finally use shadow cloak when we drop below 35%

Good, at least that is one issue out of the way.

Vuron · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

2. No nightblade worth his/her salt isnt running cloak somewhere in the rotation, survivability? Please. Also, Sap essence (a core ability of my primary build) is a massive heal, didnt you know that? Couple that with bats on one ultimate and youre pretty much guaranteed to not die. Put bolster/veil on the other for group utility.

Stop arguing. This quote clearly shows that you both are talking about 2 different things. You are talking about PvE group fights and he is talking specifically about trials, which is built for single target boss dps.

Arsenic_Touch · June 2014

bandage106rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah there is a change to nightblade I didn't notice before allowing us to finally use shadow cloak when we drop below 35%

Good, at least that is one issue out of the way.

That was there before.

nvsg · June 2014

I AM SO GLAD YOU GUYS HOPEFULLY FIXED WEIGTED ON THE BOW BUT WHERE IS THE HASTE FIX NOT THE HASTE MORPH FIX?

ZOS_GinaBruno · June 2014

Whisper292 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just letting you know we just reposted the final patch notes here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113161/patch-notes-v1-2-3

Did you make any changes to the original notes other than the pictures? They're gorgeous, by the way. Just wondering about the rest.

Yes, there were just some minor changes. We added a couple more notes - one known issue about the teleport pads in Aetherian Archive, and a known issue with the Apprentice Garb in the item sets. We also removed a couple notes that were previously pushed live to avoid confusion, and slightly reworded a couple notes.

Edit: To be clear, these changes were just for the English notes. There may have been more/less changes for the French notes, and the German notes are still being worked on to be posted soon.

Surinen · June 2014

still no information on the missing Altmer hair ( http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/110900/altmer-missing-hair-colour#latest ). how is it that jerkin got added before such thing trivial as missing hair colour?

and let me repost this one thing:

Cleansing Ritual: Decreased this ability’s particle effects in an effort to make other effects easier to see.

I do not like cuts in particles. when an ability loses its 'woah' then it is a sad day.

bandage106rwb17_ESO · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

dastone wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Stop using trials as some gold standard for player builds. Fricken seriously.

Im sick of every skill being measured vs trials.

Also, challenge accepted, ive got a vr12 DW Medium Armor Siphoner ready to roll at a moments notice, let me know.

Hint - My build out DPS's most Sorcs. Only the very few exceptionals beat my deeps. So yeah. There it is, I said it.

Hint 2 - I dont use siphoning strikes in the build. le gasp!

At the end of my rope with this mentality that Destro/Light makes everything else garbage, because that mentality in itself is garbage.

Edit to add: NBs got a massive buff today too for spell damage, rut ro.

You might have the dps of a sorc in certain cases but you don't have their utility or cc or survive ability you get from being ranged

I see no evidence of this massive buff you speak of. Care to explain?

1. Any sorc using impulse/pulsar cannot claim they are a ranged class as it is a PBAoE, hell Steel Tornado actually has more "range" by that metric, as its a bigger radius.

2. No nightblade worth his/her salt isnt running cloak somewhere in the rotation, survivability? Please. Also, Sap essence (a core ability of my primary build) is a massive heal, didnt you know that? Couple that with bats on one ultimate and youre pretty much guaranteed to not die. Put bolster/veil on the other for group utility.

3. Youve got me on CC, that I can only do with my Bow effectively, the CC in the NB lines is pretty weak, but that being said, its not a DPS classes JOB to CC. Sorcs sort of fill a place that crosses and blurs two distinct roles in this game. That being said, I could slot some CC abilities, they just arent very strong ones.

4. Buff: 14% reduced cost on stamina abilities as of today, increased damage to spells coming out of stealth (stack up a high spell damage sap nail two/three tornadoes, recloak, rinse repeat), blocking may be "optional" using that rotation, so stamina saving becomes a relative non-issue. You seem to forget that Nightblades using medium armor already have stamina regen to rival even a light armor users magicka regen, couple that with 1/6th redux (approx) in costs to cast stam abilities, and we are talking a 15% or so immediate increase in raw damage output. It could potentially be more than that. I need to test it to make sure everything works as the patch notes earlier described.

Any nightblade worth their salt isn't using shadow cloak period unless it's in PVP, also it takes time to cast cloak and it costs a lot of magicka as well and the only benefit you're getting out of it is 10% increase on damage which is negligible because it's still going to take you 1 second to cast cloak and another second to cast an ability and in that short time frame your DPS has just fell through the floor.

brandon.coker101_ESO · June 2014

this is todays patch?

butterfly442 · June 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Have to admit I'm liking most of what is said there (at least until we see how many bugs this causes....lol)

Especially liking the limited number of character 'deletes' per day. Anything that stops those low-life, scumbag bots and gold sellers is OK with me !

Why would deletes matter? When you block, you block the whole account.

Ghostbane · June 2014

Bow got some love. Happy.

Phantax · June 2014

Csub wrote: »

Moonscythe wrote: »

Why do I get a permission denied when i click on the link or copy/paste it? My feelings are hurt.

They accidently posted the patch notes earlier than they wanted so they took it back to the dev zone.

Mat Firor - "You posted the patch notes WHERE?"

Zenimax employee -

ROFL

kly · June 2014

Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): This ability now increases the healing you deal to allies for 5 seconds instead of increasing your shield value.

Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): This ability’s healing buff no longer stacks.

Unless I'm wrong in the way I read it, this is MAJOR nerf to Igneous Shield. This kind of change should refund your skill point.

Bromburak · June 2014

The best and most important patch since release. Well done!

demonlkojipub19_ESO · June 2014

butterfly442 wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Have to admit I'm liking most of what is said there (at least until we see how many bugs this causes....lol)

Especially liking the limited number of character 'deletes' per day. Anything that stops those low-life, scumbag bots and gold sellers is OK with me !

Why would deletes matter? When you block, you block the whole account.

Because those who bot rapidly delete and create characters to take advantage of the low level gold farm questing done by deleting and creating characters just to do those few quests and putting the earnings in the bank.

Phantax · June 2014

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

butterfly442 wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Have to admit I'm liking most of what is said there (at least until we see how many bugs this causes....lol)

Especially liking the limited number of character 'deletes' per day. Anything that stops those low-life, scumbag bots and gold sellers is OK with me !

Why would deletes matter? When you block, you block the whole account.

Because those who bot rapidly delete and create characters to take advantage of the low level gold farm questing done by deleting and creating characters just to do those few quests and putting the earnings in the bank.

Yep... what he said ! ! ! (damn you beat me to it...lol)