Absolutely, there would be much work to do if Arenas were implemented into the game, but also they could really figure out how to balance, just by being able to fight one on one, or 2v2 etc.

I would be sure as to not make Arenas the focal point of the PvP world, although that may be hard to do, because everyone loves a good challenge, and an arena setting is always fun! But to only add it to PvP for more options for the players. Because for everyone out there like me, I like making kids cry, and rage on a more personal level, rather trying to fight giant battles.

1. Some people are afraid people will leave Cyrodil. This is untrue. Some players are already not there and don't like ESO pvp because its just zerging bases over and over. Adding this second layer might bring in more pvp players.

2. So what if some people leave Cyrodil for it? If they make an Akavir map for V13-V20, people might leave Cyrodil for it. They also left for Craglorn. This argument smells a lot like "You don't get what you want because I want you to be forced to play my way".

I think it could be really fun if implemented right.

I would be happy to just click "Challenge to duel" or something out in the world and with any player of my own faction. This would let me train PVP with my friends and fight 1v1 anywhere.

As ive posted this comment in several other threads so im going to copy and past the most recent one I posted here. This is how I feel if arena/ battle grounds were to come to ESO how they should be incorporated to our current pvp system and should work HAND in HAND with current AvA . Its a long tough read but I think their some legit good ideas to be had there of course its just a quick rough brainstorm and there still needs some ironing to them to smooth them out


Brizz wrote: »

Small Scale Pvp.
Some hate the idea. Some would love it. Those that don't want it don't have to participate. This should be implemented in a way that isn't nearly as rewarding as Cyrodiil, or even make it inside Cyrodiil itself so as to not draw the pvp population out of AvA.

SyrrisDevlin wrote: »
Absolutely not in no way shape or form should small scale pvp battles be as rewarding as AvA or even close if your gonna do small scale pvp then the reward should be just as the type of pvp small scaled rewards. Why should a battle that's only 6-10 people be just as rewarding as say 20-30 that's like saying 12man trials should have the same reward as 4man dungeons


Brizz wrote: »

Guild that controls a keep can host a queue system for arenas or duels? Not only would that give players a reason to fight for a guild keep, but it would give players a reason to defend their own keeps. Layers upon layers of pvp depth potential here.

SyrrisDevlin wrote: »
Now I posted a few comments in other threads on the small scale pvp and what I thought were pretty good ideas that would force people to do AvA as well as GvG and PvP basically used whats already in game and made it smaller scale keeping the bigger AvA out but still just as important and worth it to do Ava for example

capture the flag battles for the scroll except one team defends the scroll the other has to capture it and hold it for 5mins while the other team now trys to capture it back

Hard point domination/ king of the hill style battles for farms, lumber mills, mines

and do small group infiltration, espionage, assassin, sabotage style missions with one group pitted against the other in small arena style battles. Now there may or may not have to be actual objectives like that but could just be story line flavor if you will basically to tell you why your doing it

All in all these things could/would be done and have a impact on the actual AvA battles like weakening keeps actually capturing resources and the elder scrolls so these things would go hand in hand with AvA and yet give the same rewards points, exp, little loot box for the winner of the mini battle. And as you can see this forces players to still AvA but also gives alternate rout of smaller pvp battles

I know this can be a bit of a hard read but if you sit and read it and understand what im getting at I just don't wanna see ESO's AVA aka world pvp die to battle grounds, bloodsports or any other form of arena style battles, where the min/maxer players decide that they can get the same reward for less work and/or easier and faster. That always seems to happen once arena style pvp battles are implemented in to a game. the min/maxers decide they would rather spend a few hours doing 10-15 small scale battles because its quicker and easier to get in to the action even if the reward is less then it is to spend the same amount of time getting a decent group together for AvA and then running all over the map trying to find a group to pvp with and if your lucky and do find another group its one battle one side wins the other loses and then its back on the hunt I know this is a drag for most hard core pvpers

@Noshiz -What point do you bring to the table? People will always complain about what isn't perfect, that's easily said. Your comment is of no help, at all, what so ever.

Arenas are fine but make them fight in rags and with bare hands only light/heavy attacks and block. I also want the ability to go watch the matches, and place bets. Competitors gain no gold, exp, ranks, lewt, or anything else other than maybe an achievement that everyone gets for their first match. It should be an RP element to the core. Also being able to vote as a crowd whether the loser gets curb stomped into Oblivion and sent back to the character creation screen to start over would be nice.

@Xnemesis -Everything in an MMO has a reward, if there wasn't no one would put effort into doing it. When I look at the idea of Arenas in ESO, I think that it should be a very booming, and alive, and important aspect of the game. A place where, yes, you can go hang out with your guild-mates, and friends, and watch players battle to the death! Place bets, have fun! But don't downscale it to something as boring as fist fights, with 0 rewards for the players involved. This isn't gladiator, where they are slaves.

I'm more in favor of new mini games within PvP. Alliance quests or assignments that would instance 2-12 man groups against each other in a certain area. These would take place in towns, dungeons, caves, castles, and yes, even an arena. This would keep the focus/purspose still on the alliance war.

HairyFairy wrote: »

@Xnemesis -Everything in an MMO has a reward, if there wasn't no one would put effort into doing it. When I look at the idea of Arenas in ESO, I think that it should be a very booming, and alive, and important aspect of the game. A place where, yes, you can go hang out with your guild-mates, and friends, and watch players battle to the death! Place bets, have fun! But don't downscale it to something as boring as fist fights, with 0 rewards for the players involved. This isn't gladiator, where they are slaves.

I was being a bit dramatic lol but the rewards should not take away from the main goal and story of the game which is capturing the ruby throne. If you want small arenas try a MOBA they are very fun and very competitive.

XvX, everyone light armor resto/destro impulse/mutagen spamming to see who wears down first. Any other build dies.

I can certainly wait for that, forever.

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

Only arena I woukd accept is Linege II concept. There were like 3 or 4 of them through the world. You did not lose XP or gain PVP kills in arena. No ranking, nothing. It was only for testing skills and PvP practise with friends.

Live PvP was cruel in L2 - solid of XP loss.

I agree with this. Maybe some achievements and/or costumes. But no loot, no experience, no alliance points, no leaderboard.

Another concept I liked was making it all based on scoreboard, where your ability to use finesse abilities, timed attacks, heals, cc and support actually counted more than kills. Might help tone down the min-maxing atmosphere a little bit if you take the focus off of doing as much damage as quickly as possible (the big issue with Trials at the moment).

Either way, the focus needs to be on fun, not rankings. Leave that for the fight that matters ... Cyrodiil.

Shunravi wrote: »

Yay! Another arena post!

The biggest problems people have with pvp arenas is the elitism and balancing/homogenization that occurs around them.

They would be fun tho...

DoTA 2 and lol have much homogenization.

Not really.

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Why not? Because they ALWAYS destroy world pvp.

Not noticed that in the GV2 world pvp was destroyed. =_=

World PvP can destroy only the wretchedness of this world PvP

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Yay! Another arena post!

The biggest problems people have with pvp arenas is the elitism and balancing/homogenization that occurs around them.

They would be fun tho...

DoTA 2 and lol have much homogenization.

Not really.

Just summarizing the two main complaints I've seen on the ten other arena posts I've read.

MOBAS are built around the concept of 'perfect imbalance' each build has a counter, it's a perfect rock paper scissors. However that's not the problem. MOBAS are a closed system. Changes do not affect other areas of gameplay, because there are no other areas. If an mmo could achieve this perfect imbalance, while keeping uniqueness in other aspect, then ya it would be great. (Look at discussions between pvp and pve to see how well this turns out.) Something often quoted on a those other threads is blizzards opinion that an arena was the worst thing they could have done to their game.

So just some things people have been saying before.

Eorea wrote: »

No arenas. They stroke the elitist ego far, far too much.

While I agree, it's not much different in my experience from listening to 'top raid guilds' or emperors.