Should racial abilities be uncoupled from race?
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Singular✭✭✭✭Racial abilities should not be separate from race; they are an integral part of the gametordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Catches_the_Sun wrote: »Racial choice has to mean something. It has already been slowly dumbed down in every game since Morrowind. It is integral to the Elder Scrolls lore that different races have different strengths & weaknesses.
Dumbed down for a good reason. I guess you haven't heard of the term "KISS": keep it simple stupid. There are many good reasons why they should be decoupled from the races, one of them being is keeping all factions balanced.
If we are going to compare the three factions right now, then AD is simply hands down, has the best racials in the game while EP got shafted.
It's nice that you claim "there are many good reasons why they should be decoupled from the races" but only list one.
One that I don't agree with, especially given you didn't cite any evidence to support your claim.War, give me war, give me war.2 -
tordr86b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Racial abilities should be separate from race; race should be appearance only
What's stopping you now?tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »There are actually several parts to this:
First it has been a TES thing that race always carried bonuses. At least as far back as Daggerfall.
Second, race are limited by faction for most players*. This can in turn have effect on the PvP balance.
The third issue is related to the second: giving the pre-orderers what they were promised.
They might be willing to decouple racial look & racial abilities down the road or allow the "all faction/all race" thing to be bought by everyone later. But for the time being it has to stay or risks pissing of pre-orderers/Imperial edition owner.
I was and still am fully aware that my Pre Order & Imperial edition bonuses will be made avalible to the general palyerbase some day. This usualyl happens latest with intriduction of a ingame realmoney store.
On the other hand this is a MMO. Ideally race should only be a graphical thing. But it is not used this way in most MMO. Even WoW has racial bonuses. Compared to WoW the "all classes/all races = all roles" concept is actualyl a lot freeer, even if they have not fully archieved the balance there yet.
*Imperial Editon gives you imperial Race (good tanks; not bound to alliance). Pre order Explorers pack lifts race/faction restrictions totally, regardless of edition
I'm Imp pre-order owner and I can tell you right now, it would be a relief if they decoupled the racials and made them available for everyone. It would mean I would be pigeonholed and would be free to play as a nord.
bad recials.0 -
Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Racial abilities should not be separate from race; they are an integral part of the gameI like to have racials. It give more depth to your race choice. It's more immersive aswell. I do not think that to create a certain build with the "wrong" race is gamebreaking anyway. It give more imemrsion aswell. The Khajiit mage will have to compensate his lack of natural afinity with magika with magika regen focused armor , while the breton can allow himself other enchants, as he is naturally talented. I find this logical! If I had know that my breton healer would always be completely overcharged in max magika and magika regen, I'd probably have pick up another race. like a Khajiit. Just because!1 -
ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭Squirrels ate my raceYou really expect me to pick a serious answer when you put this one in there? Tsk.
I generally don't worry about racials when making my character (it's a moot point anyway since all of my characters are Bretons with the exception of a Nord Templar) but I like those distinguishing qualities between the races. I also like to look at it from an RP perspective in that my characters excel at or fail something because of or despite what their race is known for.
IMO, letting any race choose between all racials is more than a little immersion breaking for me.╔═════════════⌈Alannah Corvaine⌋══════════════╗
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Racial abilities should not be separate from race; they are an integral part of the gameYou really expect me to pick a serious answer when you put this one in there? Tsk.
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ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭Squirrels ate my raceAlexDougherty wrote: »
I didn't know what that was until just now when I googled it, but yes. Yes I do.
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Morticielle✭✭✭Racial abilities should not be separate from race; they are an integral part of the gameShould brains finally be connected with thinking?Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
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