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Do the nerfs of the last two patches to dragon knight and tanking in general, make you want to quit?
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Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »NO, but the basic design has frustrated me to the point that I have given up on my heavy armor DK. I went heavy armor S&S all the way to vet10. The reality seems ( I say seems as I don't have addons to show numbers) that heavy armor does virtually nothing to mitigate damage and using melee weapon has enough posts already to show the lack of efficiency. I like the heavy armor/melee play style for most games, and it just isn't well designed in this game. To much advantage to go staff staff with light armor, and just to weak to go heavy/melee
Yup, we are all playing Elder Sticks Online, Revenge of the Dresses.1 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »NO, but the basic design has frustrated me to the point that I have given up on my heavy armor DK. I went heavy armor S&S all the way to vet10. The reality seems ( I say seems as I don't have addons to show numbers) that heavy armor does virtually nothing to mitigate damage and using melee weapon has enough posts already to show the lack of efficiency. I like the heavy armor/melee play style for most games, and it just isn't well designed in this game. To much advantage to go staff staff with light armor, and just to weak to go heavy/melee
Yes and they still have no fixes.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No,
Not sure that tanking = typical MMO tanking so nope. I've played with ppl who tank in all types of gear and clothing, mainly they are able to be healed, taunt and block.
I do however, completely understand players frustration if that was a character choice you made. If they drastically changed Templar DPS or healing I may feel some type of way.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *5010 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can still play my DK.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
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Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »I can still play my DK.
As a stick and skirt build?
No heavy armour with sword and shield.
Mind you I'm levelling up multiple characters, so I'm still about level 23.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule0 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭AlexDougherty wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »I can still play my DK.
As a stick and skirt build?
No heavy armour with sword and shield.
Mind you I'm levelling up multiple characters, so I'm still about level 23.
1-50 any spec can run but you will see how bad it is at vet 11 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭What they need to do is make a Dragonknight update thread like they have the Nightblade update and Templar Update, since it too can expect many changes tho in the weakening direction. It should let us know whats going to get the nerfbat next, and how.0 -
Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭You talons cost nothing if they don't hit anything. Quit your whining, the class is still hands down the strongest.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
v14 DK Costs
v14 NB 'Vis
v14 Temp Fiat Lux2 -
maxilaub17_ESO✭✭✭I am a V12 Dragon Knight, it's the only toon I play and I still feel viable in PvP. What I do hate is that my best build revolves around me wearing cloth. I'd really prefer to wear plate and have 2h be the primary dps, it's why I rolled a DK , but 2h dps doesn't come close to magic dps. That a DK is forced to wear cloth or be a tank for the best builds in PvP, I think sucks.Edited by maxilaub17_ESO on June 23, 2014 5:33PM0
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ArRashid✭✭✭✭so let me get this straight.....
FACT: dk was OP
even with the nerf applied Dk is not the weakest class but rather more on par with other classes, instead of praising the game for being steered toward balance, now DKs r going to quit because they now cant roflpwn everything and everyone hahahahahha its hilarious
LOLS
How exactly is DK any more OP than any other class abusing animation canceling, wearing light armor and using resto and destro staves?
I've seen them all doing unbelievable dps..
And some of those nerfs were really bad. Talons after nerfs don't just affect like HALF (56% to be accurate) the area they used to, but also bug out and fail to root enemies in about 30% cases (which is usually deadly in VR).
I think there is a fine line between NERFING class' damage and DESTROYING IT. If they wanted to make talons less OP for PvP, be my guest, they could have removed the synergy instead..
Standard as well, they could have nerfed/removed synergy, instead of reducing damage and defenses substantially.. I see sorcerers dropping Storm Atronachs on every second pull, but it's soooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaad when DK uses flag to TRY to (because not even that miraculously give you superpowers in VR) kill an elite..
Magma armor as well.. instead of shutting down ultimate generation while it's active, or just making it twice as expensive, they have nerfed it's duration to a point when it's no longer worth using AT ALL (not that anyone but exploiters wanted it anyway).
Nerfs are okay, as long as they don't completely destroy a class. DK is now on the edge, and one more nerf may make another thousand people unsub at this point.. especially those who rerolled DK after not being able to cope with NB's bugs..
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Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭so let me get this straight.....
FACT: dk was OP
even with the nerf applied Dk is not the weakest class but rather more on par with other classes, instead of praising the game for being steered toward balance, now DKs r going to quit because they now cant roflpwn everything and everyone hahahahahha its hilarious
LOLS
How exactly is DK any more OP than any other class abusing animation canceling, wearing light armor and using resto and destro staves?
I've seen them all doing unbelievable dps..
And some of those nerfs were really bad. Talons after nerfs don't just affect like HALF (56% to be accurate) the area they used to, but also bug out and fail to root enemies in about 30% cases (which is usually deadly in VR).
I think there is a fine line between NERFING class' damage and DESTROYING IT. If they wanted to make talons less OP for PvP, be my guest, they could have removed the synergy instead..
Standard as well, they could have nerfed/removed synergy, instead of reducing damage and defenses substantially.. I see sorcerers dropping Storm Atronachs on every second pull, but it's soooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaad when DK uses flag to TRY to (because not even that miraculously give you superpowers in VR) kill an elite..
Magma armor as well.. instead of shutting down ultimate generation while it's active, or just making it twice as expensive, they have nerfed it's duration to a point when it's no longer worth using AT ALL (not that anyone but exploiters wanted it anyway).
Nerfs are okay, as long as they don't completely destroy a class. DK is now on the edge, and one more nerf may make another thousand people unsub at this point.. especially those who rerolled DK after not being able to cope with NB's bugs..
Someone else who sees the truth of the issue0 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well looks like DK tanks took another nerf, they changed obsidian shield to be a.......healing buff on others not even yourself. So YAY for another nail in the tanking coffin0
