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Do the nerfs of the last two patches to dragon knight and tanking in general, make you want to quit?

  • Halefire
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    To sword and board as a Templar , not anything to do with dk's

    Will to play has decreased much, hell I've been playing defiance ...it's that low.
  • Anlaemar
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    I roll my DK as a tank with sword and board and bow DPS switch. Still playing that way. Still OP.
    Edited by Anlaemar on June 16, 2014 11:23AM
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  • Zabalah
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    What nerfs?

    Wish someone would nerf these forums and ridiculous polls.
  • Swordguy
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    my main is dk, but I stopped levelling at v8 after the nerf hammers started falling from the sky and hitting players on the head, and so my main is now my perminent crafting mule, which was kinda the plan all along I suppose.

    I stopped playing for a while, but recently rerolled NB and quickly moved to fire destruction staff before lvl 10. with all his abilities, its the most logical weapon unfortunately.
    Edited by Swordguy on June 16, 2014 11:33AM
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  • JaJaLuka
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    i'm curious why they don't buff the other class skills to counter instead of lowering skills...
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  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    No. Not at all. I've been playing as DK since b4 day 1 (I played in early beta) and understand they had to balance the classes. Also, tech issues will be resolved and in-game processes and systems will be upgraded in time. No worries here. :-)
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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    No. Not at all. I've been playing as DK since b4 day 1 (I played in early beta) and understand they had to balance the classes. Also, tech issues will be resolved and in-game processes and systems will be upgraded in time. No worries here. :-)

    They arent balancing, though, they are nerfing an entire class to the mud instead of nerfing stick and dresses.
  • canghai
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    so let me get this straight.....

    FACT: dk was OP

    even with the nerf applied Dk is not the weakest class but rather more on par with other classes, instead of praising the game for being steered toward balance, now DKs r going to quit because they now cant roflpwn everything and everyone hahahahahha its hilarious

    LOLS
  • Sadae
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    They broke the morph "Choking Talons" when the nerfed it. ("Burning Talons" morph is ok.) It now takes the magicka cost TWICE when you cast it! (You can cast it if you only have enough magicka for one cast, but it takes the magicka twice if you have enough for it.) Needless to say this makes the skill unusable since it kills all your mana. It's been a month and they still haven't fixed it.

    This never should have been nerfed in the first place. A limit of 6 targets like other AoE skills was sufficient. There was no need to reduce the radius as well. Nerfing skills for the sake of PvP balance is NEVER right!

    I'm tired of these losers at ESO. The only thing they know how to do is release broken stuff, and break more stuff.
  • Gilvoth
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    There doesn't have to be a single nerf. Buff skills from other classes that are lackluster. Or even better fix the broken skills then see what needs to be buffed. No one is nerfed so they are happy and those that get a buff are even happier.

    this is exactly what should have been done and what should be done!

  • Heraclea
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    My DK has built for heavy armor and melee weapon damage, and is VR3 at the moment. I've more or less put that character on hold while levelling a sorcerer instead.
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  • Kyuumu
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    The answer to the title question is NO. It does not make me want to quit. It does make me feel frustrated and makes me want to scream at everyone, NO! Not all DK builds are OP! RELAX with the PVE nerf's for goodness sake! I don't PVP so I don't feel that pain and cannot say whether the nerf's are needed PVP. However I can say they are NOT needed PVE! I run a V2 melee DK dps while my husband runs a V2 Sorc dps and I can tell you from experience he has it waaaay easier than I do. I had to respec from 2H to dual wield (which is not much better) just to survive. I am now seeing in zone chat *no melee dps* when people pug the 4 man instances. That has got to tell the DEV's something right? I mean how much clearer can it be, we are being excluded by other players. Which means they see it too! I just wish the people deciding these things would go play a 2H melee dps DK and then tell me if they think these nerf's are really needed or fair for that matter. I just feel it makes it hard to play the way you want when your options as a 2H melee dps are so minimal and getting shorter by every patch.
  • Tintinabula
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    What nerfs? I think DK is very balanced atm especially because we are the target class. You see a DK on the field..or Im seen on the field and recognized as a DK and ten ppl are on top of me.

    Personally id like to see ppl who use bows try something else as a secondary. I swear every bow user I see stays in hide while the DKs and templars slug fest it out.
  • Loco_Mofo
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    BrassRazoo wrote: »
    JosephChip wrote: »
    BrassRazoo wrote: »
    No because I can adapt and learn to play.

    This argument makes me always chuckle. So even if things are over nerfed and others remain useless/broken we just use different ones, and close our eyes? Yeah, I can see how that is going to lead to a balanced, engaging, fun mmo... not.

    I don't take any of these whinging threads seriously so I will continue to post random junk as most of these Nerf / Buff / OMG I died in PVP and OMG this Class can Solo Craglorn threads are just that ... junk.

    Could say the same about the game in its current state.
  • jelliedsoup
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    If they didn't nerf them more would quit.
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  • Haewk
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    Dress and stick DKs were never OP. Everyone else just needs to L2P.
  • Kyuumu
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    Yea I didn't mind being tanky either, (loved the heavy armor) I just couldn't get the hang of tanking in this game. I couldn't seem to hold aggro well enough and got tired of chasing the enemy's around. I've always found the enemies go after whoever is doing the most damage, since that is not the tank, and I am not very good at running, had to switch up. As far as PVP like your talking about, I wouldn't know. I do think a medium armor wearing bow user trying to "slug it out" with ten people on top of him would be silly. Bow users wear medium armor for the crit chance boost which they would not get wearing heavy armor. Range means far away and since the bow has a passive which increases the damage for further range hits, that might be why they stay back. I dual wield with a bow as my alt now and wear medium armor. I am a DK and "slugging it out" is hard for ME because of the armor change, I am decently happy with the damage though. If your happy with the way your toon is playing then I'm happy for you, however there are a lot of us that are not quite as giddy. I said it on another thread and I'll say it on this one for good measure, I personally play the game to have fun not be frustrated and for all of you who enjoy the massive challenge, there are ways you can make it harder for yourself (play naked or something) but there is no way for the rest of us to make it easier so try to be a little more understanding. Not every gamer enjoys getting Rekt. As far as the nerf's..... troll the past patch forums and you'll find them.
  • Elgarr
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    No, but they make me want to just roll an bolting, immortal, crit based sorcerer.
    It isn't fun when the class you chose since beta gets nerfed with every update.


    Aye, must have been a real b*!ch since beta being a Demi god and we all bowed in awe at your awesome powers of soloing the entire game.
    Only for you to be brought down to earth along with the rest of us mere mortals.

    I feel for you, I honestly do ;)
  • Schallen
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    No, but the nerfs to sorcs are making me think about it.
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  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    all these whine threads makes me sick. *** adapt to the changes or uninstall the game.
  • Ardeni
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    Eh, what? I realise that this thread is two weeks old and no nerfs have been made recently but still, even as a dragonknight caster (VR12, pvp-player) I find dragonknights to be ridiculously overpowered. The damage that you can deal using the standard, impulse (elemental ring) and burning talons is immense. If you have a single target, you just have to swap impulse for molten whip. Add the rooting effect of burning talons, the fiery grip to the mix and you have a target which cannot escape you. Furthermore, you are also close to immortal just by having the dragon blood ability slotted. You get 3k armor using light armor types if you add the razor armor to the mix (for a couple of seconds, but you get 2k armor for 20 seconds anyways). The only way to kill you in less than 10 seconds is to stun you with ambush or something else from which you can't get out with interrupt and even that can be prevented by using immovable skill from heavy armor tree. So, as a conclusion your character is a light armor tank with tons of mana, armor, spell resistance and healing power (even without restoration staff) and can annihilate any target within 3-5 seconds just by yourself given that you have ultimate. At my best I've won a 1 vs 5 fight where all the 5 people attacking to me were in the range of my standard of might. Sure, there is obviously a reason to quit the game due to the dragonknight nerfs.

    Yes, sorcerers have bolt escape and they can escape most situations due to that, but has there ever been a game where the only teleporting class is not whined about? Bolt escape is not really that big of a deal, honestly. If your opponent escapes, you have already won whether you get credit for that or not.

  • Kyuumu
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    I watched a vid last night of a V4 Sorc soloing a Craglorn dungeon. You know what that says to me, GREAT things are possible from all classes. Just for the record I recall a tremendous amount of crying from Sorc's when their pets where shut down during weapon swap unless they had them on both bars. I personally did not feel their pain at that time but I also did not go around trying to shut down their freedom of speech, or telling what crybaby's they were being about it. I have learned one thing in this life, Karma is a b@%*h, so be careful who you judge.
  • ishilb14_ESO
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    So some DKs are upset that they can only tank 3 people at a time now rather than 5?
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  • Artis
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    @Kyuumu, awww. Well those people are dumb. Melee dps do just fine in group dungeons. Try LFG, there no one can see if you're a melee :)

    On the other hand, some fights are designed not very smart... For example, the last fight in Fungal Grotto(Veteran). There, there's absolutely nothing for you to do, if you're a melee(tank).
  • Heinzy
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    Are they seriously trying to make pvp better by hurting pve. this makes me sad. Anything cool on a weapon or an armor will be gone if they do this.
  • Kyuumu
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    Thanks Artemis :) I will try that.
  • Esha76
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    I just leveled a Dunmer DPS DK into VR. Already have a NB at V10 and a Sorc at V4. I am sincerely expecting them to slap DKs, especially Dunmer ones, up more with a nerf bat. In no way do I want them to, but in the realm of reality - more DK nerfs inc.

    That and in the last road ahead the dude said DK nerfs are coming, but they are not being nerfed "into Oblivion".

    Sure.... I believe him... uh-huh.... can't wait...
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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    Esha76 wrote: »
    I just leveled a Dunmer DPS DK into VR. Already have a NB at V10 and a Sorc at V4. I am sincerely expecting them to slap DKs, especially Dunmer ones, up more with a nerf bat. In no way do I want them to, but in the realm of reality - more DK nerfs inc.

    That and in the last road ahead the dude said DK nerfs are coming, but they are not being nerfed "into Oblivion".

    Sure.... I believe him... uh-huh.... can't wait...

    Ya the devs are not very good at their jobs with balancing, hell they havent touched stick and dress
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    NO, but the basic design has frustrated me to the point that I have given up on my heavy armor DK. I went heavy armor S&S all the way to vet10. The reality seems ( I say seems as I don't have addons to show numbers) that heavy armor does virtually nothing to mitigate damage and using melee weapon has enough posts already to show the lack of efficiency. I like the heavy armor/melee play style for most games, and it just isn't well designed in this game. To much advantage to go staff staff with light armor, and just to weak to go heavy/melee
  • Razour
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