PriorityBalle wrote: »No youre wrong, by lowering the drop rate youll remove farmers because then theyre not able to farm them, on monday theyre probably making motif 11-14 purple and Motif 10 Legendary.
And i see no other reason for doing this because Zenimax dont want people farming racial motif's by relogging or any other means.
Just go look at all the noob threads about being scammed by VR players, Low level player who arent the brightest cant read the racial motif's because they dont entirely understand the message and feel like theyre being scammed. By reducing the drop rate they fix some problems of the IMMENSE Racial motif market there is atm. In crowded zone there is a guy selling motifs every 5 minute.[/the drop rate would be nerfed, but they would STILL be obtainable. This would be exactly like it was on release. The motifs would be rare as hekc, but people would STILL find them, but they would charge insane prices for them. if this happens, then people will either have to pay 10X what the motif really si worth, OR spend 3 weeks hoping to find even ONE motif. idk if you were playing on release, but it was bad. nerfing drop rates wont fix the issue of relog exploits. you cant just simply take out reclogging, as ppl may actually have to get off to do something. and you cant nerf the drop rates, because then everyone would have to either 1) get VERY lucky in finding motifs. 2) spend a didiculous amount of gold on one 3) farm.
NookyZooky wrote: »the drop rate would be nerfed, but they would STILL be obtainable. This would be exactly like it was on release. The motifs would be rare as hekc, but people would STILL find them, but they would charge insane prices for them. if this happens, then people will either have to pay 10X what the motif really si worth, OR spend 3 weeks hoping to find even ONE motif. idk if you were playing on release, but it was bad. nerfing drop rates wont fix the issue of relog exploits. you cant just simply take out reclogging, as ppl may actually have to get off to do something. and you cant nerf the drop rates, because then everyone would have to either 1) get VERY lucky in finding motifs. 2) spend a didiculous amount of gold on one 3) farm.PriorityBalle wrote: »No youre wrong, by lowering the drop rate youll remove farmers because then theyre not able to farm them, on monday theyre probably making motif 11-14 purple and Motif 10 Legendary.
And i see no other reason for doing this because Zenimax dont want people farming racial motif's by relogging or any other means.
Just go look at all the noob threads about being scammed by VR players, Low level player who arent the brightest cant read the racial motif's because they dont entirely understand the message and feel like theyre being scammed. By reducing the drop rate they fix some problems of the IMMENSE Racial motif market there is atm. In crowded zone there is a guy selling motifs every 5 minute.
PriorityBalle wrote: »The drop rate is NOT fine atm, When youre able to farm over 10 Motifs in a day and earn 250-350k doing so.
Idc that you think im greedy cause i wanna make gold cause that's who iam.
Im 100 % not trolling im serious about this and doubt that Zenimax choose to change the current state due to my 2 Threads, possibly because they noticed that high tier players are abusing the fact that VR1-10 motif's are farmable and theyre making so much gold scamming people who are unaware that they cant read them before theyre level 40 in Blacksmithing,Clothing and Woodworking.
And I doubt Zenimax main core players are "normal" players who go to forums to whine about motifs, it's more likely hardcore PvE/PvP players theyre aiming to "nerf"
PriorityBalle wrote: »Well it's already official that theyre nerfing rare motif's 10-14 DeLindsey, so it looks like even the majority of the community or Zenimax think that Motif farming is a problem.
PriorityBalle wrote: »I believe they allready nerfed the drop rate this morning during the maintenance, On Monday's Patch/maintenance I read theyre making Racial motif 11-14 Purple and 10 Legendary.
Whether this is getting implemented on Monday or not idk.
yes, but you are trying to ruin it for the majority that ARE NOT motif farmers I don't want to have to pay you 200K for a daedric motif, if I choose to buy one, and neither does 70-80% of the community right now. and tbh, they are not valuble enough, in my opinion anyway, to be as rare, and cost as much, as you want/ All they do is let you look different, they don't give you unique abilities, or higher stats or anything. They are nice to have, and I do try to find them myself, but they are really, again, imo, not worth as much as you think. but I wont try to change your mind anymore. If you rely on trading with players for getting your gold, of course you will want to charge ppl 200K for a daedric, so I wont judge you.PriorityBalle wrote: »Yes but that's the way it should be, I don't think everything should be obtainable just because the majority or the lesser think its to hard finding motifs, I can say it over and over again this will only benefit the game in my opinion, IF they do what is currently happening on PTS [ Racial Motif 11-14 will be made Purple and Racial motif 10 will be legendary ] Ive been thinking since Early acces that it should be like this, I like hard PvE content, PvP and trading for profit. Motif farmers are annoying and theyre ruining the prices for me.
Breaking news!!! As one of the maybe 75-99% of players who DON'T farm Motifs and are irritated by people like the OP who ask ZoS to further nerf RNG items like Motifs I can say this:
21 days, 5 Hours, 15 Minutes.
That's how long it took me on my main to find Daedric.
PriorityBalle wrote: »Reduce the drop of Racial motif's allready, people are non-stop relogging to get these motif's just to go scam some low level who doesnt even meet the requirement's to learn to motif yet. The market is flooded with Racial motif's because people are abusing your ridiculous low drop rate, either reduce the drop to Purple food recipe or remove the relog container refill thingy.
i have gone 3 hours without getting anything, RNG is a fickle mistress.This may all be OBE with Monday's patch (the one that makes the rare motifs purple/gold) ... a guildie spent over 2 hours on PTS attempting to farm in one of the current hotspots and got none whatsoever.
100% true.PriorityBalle wrote: »The thing you describe with wayshrines is not true. No idea where you have that information.
Of course it's true. You just have to wayshrine to another zone. There is no need to log off to get the containers to reset. I do it constantly.
irony impairedPriorityBalle wrote: »The drop rate is NOT fine atm, When youre able to farm over 10 Motifs in a day and earn 250-350k doing so.
Idc that you think im greedy cause i wanna make gold cause that's who iam.
farming is a matter of gold or xp made per hour. in this case a lower drop rate would increase the selling price of the motif until it hit bottom. now, a player can get a daedric for 20k, if the drop rate is cut to 1/3 prices immediately are back to 60k and the gold made per hour farming is the same.PriorityBalle wrote: »No youre wrong, by lowering the drop rate youll remove farmers because then theyre not able to farm them, on monday theyre probably making motif 11-14 purple and Motif 10 Legendary.
i understand you dont want more people scamming, competition is a... female dog in heat, isnt it?PriorityBalle wrote: »You want Increased drop rate on Racial motif's ? So there will be more people scamming in the low level zones and more gold made for Motif farmers... There will allways be someone to buy them, and there will allways be someone to farm them if it's possible.
as long as you don't try charging 75K for primals, I think we may just get alongPriorityBalle wrote: »Yes but that's the way it should be, I don't think everything should be obtainable just because the majority or the lesser think its to hard finding motifs, I can say it over and over again this will only benefit the game in my opinion, IF they do what is currently happening on PTS [ Racial Motif 11-14 will be made Purple and Racial motif 10 will be legendary ] Ive been thinking since Early acces that it should be like this, I like hard PvE content, PvP and trading for profit. Motif farmers are annoying and theyre ruining the prices for me.
who said I was doing it? cause I don't do it. I have better things to do than sit there for 9 hours opening a video game cabinet.PriorityBalle wrote: »Im not trying to ruin anything, IM not the one WHO is changing this.
And i disagree, they give you Unique abilities such as crafting daedric armor, Imagine how amazing the armor will look when they add colour dye.
And I dont make my gold in Trading motif's, there are plenty other Things to trade for a nice profit. Just because your making Money of relogging and getting motfis doesnt mean everyone else is.
PriorityBalle wrote: »I just dont want Racial motif's to be easy obtainable.
PriorityBalle wrote: »yea that's just you, theyre worth ALOT.