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ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭@NerfEverything No worries.
Pretty much have to grow some thick skin after playing with those kind of people.
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Misty✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.1 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
Why oh why didn't you trust me
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PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYGEdited by mutharex on June 19, 2014 7:44PM0 -
Misty✭✭✭
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
I wish I had, but you know? You need to see for yourself.
I know it takes all sorts, but it's hard to understand how anyone could like WS and slag ESO. I know ESO has it's problems, but for me, WS is NOT a patch on ESO.
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hk11✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
It's sort of slow until you get to around 20 when you unlock dungeons. Try one of those and then you will know if the game is for you or not. The dungeons are sort of hard in a good way. 20 is also when the world pvp starts if you are on a pvp server. It's pretty brutal in the first area where the factions meet.
You dont have to do all the quests by any means, just get to the level required for the next area and move on. After 20 you can use dungeons, pve, pvp or a combination.
I think it's just sort of geared toward pve nuts and elitists so I get that not everyone is going to like it.Edited by hk11 on June 19, 2014 8:04PM0 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
I wish I had, but you know? You need to see for yourself.
I know it takes all sorts, but it's hard to understand how anyone could like WS and slag ESO. I know ESO has it's problems, but for me, WS is NOT a patch on ESO.
Tastes. Nothing wrong in that, we are all different, but the problem is when someone projects his own tastes on everybody else.
I don't go on WS trolling people because their tastes are different from mine.
I would appreciate they did the same
But more on topic: people who find TESO refreshing and love the action combat, virtual living world and questing aren't likely to like wow style dead environment on rail questing or hotbar rotation gameplay.
Likewise, people who like wow combat and want to rush to endgame aren't going to enjoy TESO and will find the combat "clunky"1 -
Crumpy✭✭✭✭Some folks like playing "Bunnies in Space" but I just couldn't see getting into a game with characters like this:
The suspension of disbelief would just be too difficult to pull off, and I've no interest in spending time in a universe of cartoonish space bunnies and hamsters.
Believe me, the graphics are the least of its problems, I think the clunky combat, terrible performance even on powerful systems and the horrid quests get the podium
The combat's a hell of a lot tighter than in ESO.
Don't care - still looks like some freakish hybrid of a bad Japanese anime flick and a Tom and Jerry cartoon, complete with cartoonish hamsters and bunnies.
Sorry, but just can't get into something like that. Perhaps were I a teenager...
Yeah cos ESO is real mature...I lyke not this quill.0 -
coryevans_3b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Same. Got both, played both, canceled this, play that every day now. Joke about the color palette all you want, but they're laughing all the way to the bank. Their game is amazing, completed, and years ahead of ESO in terms of features, and content (and actually having things to do). WS community is paying for actual premium content, rather than the hope that someday they might get it. I really wanted it to be ESO to rule them all, but this is just early-access for console release. It's not finished. We're literally a laughing stock all over the internet but here, since its the MMO that pretty much only allows you to play by yourself. ZoS is probably playing WS, which would explain massive silences and no communication. *sigh*
Funny, I don't spend my time "around the internet" so it's cool that I'm a laughing stock for still enjoying this game and thinking WS is a steaming pile of cartoon wow clone. Seriously, those graphics make me dizzy and want to puke.
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
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Compared to WS, ESO is a masterpiece in regard to graphics.Some folks like playing "Bunnies in Space" but I just couldn't see getting into a game with characters like this:
The suspension of disbelief would just be too difficult to pull off, and I've no interest in spending time in a universe of cartoonish space bunnies and hamsters.
Believe me, the graphics are the least of its problems, I think the clunky combat, terrible performance even on powerful systems and the horrid quests get the podium
The combat's a hell of a lot tighter than in ESO.
Don't care - still looks like some freakish hybrid of a bad Japanese anime flick and a Tom and Jerry cartoon, complete with cartoonish hamsters and bunnies.
Sorry, but just can't get into something like that. Perhaps were I a teenager...
Yeah cos ESO is real mature...Crotchety Old Man Guild
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drogon1✭✭✭✭<snipped>
All well and good Lalai (nice name btw ) and I believe you also. Is there a song about your name? If not then there should be. Have to call that Clapton guy and have him tweak some of the code.
Both games to my mind had very good launches, but overall as I mentioned I'm finding my personal experience in ESO the lesser polished and over buggy compared to Wildstar.
The bottom line will be sub retention. We'll see how the numbers shake out 6 months from now for each game. I'm hoping they both game succeed and succeed big.
On a side note: probably shouldn't offer the WS guest passes - might get the thread closed lol.Edited by drogon1 on June 19, 2014 10:41PM1 -
drogon1✭✭✭✭
Compared to WS, ESO is a masterpiece in regard to graphics.Some folks like playing "Bunnies in Space" but I just couldn't see getting into a game with characters like this:
The suspension of disbelief would just be too difficult to pull off, and I've no interest in spending time in a universe of cartoonish space bunnies and hamsters.
Believe me, the graphics are the least of its problems, I think the clunky combat, terrible performance even on powerful systems and the horrid quests get the podium
The combat's a hell of a lot tighter than in ESO.
Don't care - still looks like some freakish hybrid of a bad Japanese anime flick and a Tom and Jerry cartoon, complete with cartoonish hamsters and bunnies.
Sorry, but just can't get into something like that. Perhaps were I a teenager...
Yeah cos ESO is real mature...
This apple is a masterpiece, that orange not so much.
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Kyle_Roberts✭✭✭Fuzzylumpkins wrote: »Kyle_Roberts wrote: »
Got to V2, had around 26million gold (picture above is to kinda prove it)
Friend gave me Wildstar guest key, never looked back at ESO since.
Just thought id share.
And chance you would make a gold donation to humble eso player who still playing?
Doubt he can, he doesn't play because players that exploited the gbank dupe got banned
Yey another person to accuse me, did you also report me like the other 1000+ [snip] who think i duped too?...I didn't exploit the gbank dupe, but thanks for making yourself look Jelly.
Anyway your completely wrong as there are goldfarmers who made 100s of accounts and filled them with dupes, and are still selling them on now lol, you'll notice them ingame level 3's selling epic/legendary mats in bulk for around half price of what they sell for in Riften/Shadowfen (Ebonheart Pact EU)
http://www.tesoelite.com/forums/threads/all-types-of-raw-materials-ores-rough-wood-and-raw-clothing.3956/
Using that forum is how I made most of my gold ^^
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
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Compared to WS, ESO is a masterpiece in regard to graphics.Some folks like playing "Bunnies in Space" but I just couldn't see getting into a game with characters like this:
The suspension of disbelief would just be too difficult to pull off, and I've no interest in spending time in a universe of cartoonish space bunnies and hamsters.
Believe me, the graphics are the least of its problems, I think the clunky combat, terrible performance even on powerful systems and the horrid quests get the podium
The combat's a hell of a lot tighter than in ESO.
Don't care - still looks like some freakish hybrid of a bad Japanese anime flick and a Tom and Jerry cartoon, complete with cartoonish hamsters and bunnies.
Sorry, but just can't get into something like that. Perhaps were I a teenager...
Yeah cos ESO is real mature...
This apple is a masterpiece, that orange not so much.
Huh?
I'll make it easier for you to understand:
WS graphics = crap
ESO graphics = goodCrotchety Old Man Guild
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drogon1✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
Actually it's subpar all the way to 20. Then it opens up. Compared to ESO vet levels tho....yeah there's that.0 -
drogon1✭✭✭✭
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
I wish I had, but you know? You need to see for yourself.
I know it takes all sorts, but it's hard to understand how anyone could like WS and slag ESO. I know ESO has it's problems, but for me, WS is NOT a patch on ESO.
Tastes. Nothing wrong in that, we are all different, but the problem is when someone projects his own tastes on everybody else.
I don't go on WS trolling people because their tastes are different from mine.
I would appreciate they did the same
But more on topic: people who find TESO refreshing and love the action combat, virtual living world and questing aren't likely to like wow style dead environment on rail questing or hotbar rotation gameplay.
Likewise, people who like wow combat and want to rush to endgame aren't going to enjoy TESO and will find the combat "clunky"
I must be one of the odd birds that likes both. Lucky me!
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
Actually it's subpar all the way to 20. Then it opens up. Compared to ESO vet levels tho....yeah there's that.
I am not really in any rush to get to VR so there's that too.
What I like in TESO, aside the quality of questing and the combat, is that's a true living world. You know, I even go fishing
I am not getting any of that from WS. I had a guest pass from a friend who wants me to get into it but after one day I knew that all I hated about it in beta was still there. Not my cup of tea.
Ironically, my friend, who played the hell out of it in closed and open beta on multiple characters, is already burned out and not logging in anymore...Edited by mutharex on June 19, 2014 10:57PM2 -
Lalai✭✭✭✭<snipped>
All well and good Lalai (nice name btw ) and I believe you also. Is there a song about your name? If not then there should be. Have to call that Clapton guy and have him tweak some of the code.
Both games to my mind had very good launches, but overall as I mentioned I'm finding my personal experience in ESO the lesser polished and over buggy compared to Wildstar.
The bottom line will be sub retention. We'll see how the numbers shake out 6 months from now for each game. I'm hoping they both game succeed and succeed big.
On a side note: probably shouldn't offer the WS guest passes - might get the thread closed lol.
The name is courtesy of the Guild Wars 2 random name generator. I'm not real creative on my own
They both did have pretty good launches, pretty standard stuff. Much better than some past ones (I constantly complain about the FFXIV:ARR launch myself).
I hope both games are successful enough to remain sub based long enough for boyfriend and I to get our fill. Tend to dislike the F2P stuff, have no idea how long either of us will subscribe to either game.. and I tend to be rather selfish in that I don't care whether a game goes F2P or not after I'm exhausted/bored of it. Probably a mean thing to say, but it's rather true.
It's why I tend to dislike most of the "how many people are playing?" and "when do you think the game is going F2P?" threads on any game. It just doesn't matter to me because there's nothing I can do about it either way. Even if I knew the date a game was going under, I'd still play up until that point.. knowing the date doesn't do anything for me.
As to the guest passes.. I would hope they'd just remove my post and not close the thread :x I haven't gotten a warning about it (yet).. but no one has messaged me for one either.Fisher extraordinaire!
Send me your worms, crawlers, guts, and insect parts.
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
I wish I had, but you know? You need to see for yourself.
I know it takes all sorts, but it's hard to understand how anyone could like WS and slag ESO. I know ESO has it's problems, but for me, WS is NOT a patch on ESO.
Tastes. Nothing wrong in that, we are all different, but the problem is when someone projects his own tastes on everybody else.
I don't go on WS trolling people because their tastes are different from mine.
I would appreciate they did the same
But more on topic: people who find TESO refreshing and love the action combat, virtual living world and questing aren't likely to like wow style dead environment on rail questing or hotbar rotation gameplay.
Likewise, people who like wow combat and want to rush to endgame aren't going to enjoy TESO and will find the combat "clunky"
I must be one of the odd birds that likes both. Lucky me!
There is always an exception to any rule or statistic, of course.0 -
drogon1✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
Actually it's subpar all the way to 20. Then it opens up. Compared to ESO vet levels tho....yeah there's that.
I am not really in any rush to get to VR so there's that too.
What I like in TESO, aside the quality of questing and the combat, is that's a true living world. You know, I even go fishing
I am not getting any of that from WS. I had a guest pass from a friend who wants me to get into it but after one day I knew that all I hated about it in beta was still there. Not my cup of tea.
Ironically, my friend, who played the hell out of it in closed and open beta on multiple characters, is already burned out and not logging in anymore...
Good pts. Overall I think I prefer ESO ambience and aesthetic elements, and even the combat slightly more. Overall game mechanics and character progression favor Wildstar - all personal opinion. PvP def favors ESO - again personal opinion lol.
My ESO toons are in the 20s, all five of them - so I'm in no rush and taking a break from all of that gd questing. I'm hoping there's something to do at VR levels because I sure as heck am not going to all those silly quests over again. But then I'm hoping at VR1 Cyro will be more fun than at lvl 20. Getting eventually 1 shot in Cyro was a big downer.Edited by drogon1 on June 19, 2014 11:08PM0 -
drogon1✭✭✭✭<snipped>
All well and good Lalai (nice name btw ) and I believe you also. Is there a song about your name? If not then there should be. Have to call that Clapton guy and have him tweak some of the code.
Both games to my mind had very good launches, but overall as I mentioned I'm finding my personal experience in ESO the lesser polished and over buggy compared to Wildstar.
The bottom line will be sub retention. We'll see how the numbers shake out 6 months from now for each game. I'm hoping they both game succeed and succeed big.
On a side note: probably shouldn't offer the WS guest passes - might get the thread closed lol.
The name is courtesy of the Guild Wars 2 random name generator. I'm not real creative on my own
They both did have pretty good launches, pretty standard stuff. Much better than some past ones (I constantly complain about the FFXIV:ARR launch myself).
I hope both games are successful enough to remain sub based long enough for boyfriend and I to get our fill. Tend to dislike the F2P stuff, have no idea how long either of us will subscribe to either game.. and I tend to be rather selfish in that I don't care whether a game goes F2P or not after I'm exhausted/bored of it. Probably a mean thing to say, but it's rather true.
It's why I tend to dislike most of the "how many people are playing?" and "when do you think the game is going F2P?" threads on any game. It just doesn't matter to me because there's nothing I can do about it either way. Even if I knew the date a game was going under, I'd still play up until that point.. knowing the date doesn't do anything for me.
As to the guest passes.. I would hope they'd just remove my post and not close the thread :x I haven't gotten a warning about it (yet).. but no one has messaged me for one either.
Thread earlier today had SWTOR in the title and got closed. Read the reasons but couldn't find the violation. Beware ye!
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Three hours of playing Wildstar and so far it take's the prize.
The worst mmo I have ever played prize. I really hope it get's better or it's money down the toilet.
Why oh why didn't you trust me?
PS Till level 10 is mind numbingly boring, dunno after (I just couldn't stand it anymore) but I think WYSIWYG
Actually it's subpar all the way to 20. Then it opens up. Compared to ESO vet levels tho....yeah there's that.
I am not really in any rush to get to VR so there's that too.
What I like in TESO, aside the quality of questing and the combat, is that's a true living world. You know, I even go fishing
I am not getting any of that from WS. I had a guest pass from a friend who wants me to get into it but after one day I knew that all I hated about it in beta was still there. Not my cup of tea.
Ironically, my friend, who played the hell out of it in closed and open beta on multiple characters, is already burned out and not logging in anymore...
Good pts. Overall I think I prefer ESO ambience and aesthetic elements, and even the combat slightly more. Overall game mechanics and character progression favor Wildstar - all personal opinion. PvP def favors ESO - again personal opinion lol.
My ESO toons are in the 20s, all five of them - so I'm in no rush and taking a break from all of that gd questing. I'm hoping there's something to do at VR levels because I sure as heck am not going to all those silly quests over again. But then I'm hoping at VR1 Cyro will be more fun than at lvl 20. Getting eventually 1 shot in Cyro was a big downer.
That's why I am not in a hurry, by when I hit VR there will probably different avenues of progression. And the Thieves Guild and DB are coming in future patches, so new Skill Lines.0 -
Lalai✭✭✭✭<snipped>
All well and good Lalai (nice name btw ) and I believe you also. Is there a song about your name? If not then there should be. Have to call that Clapton guy and have him tweak some of the code.
Both games to my mind had very good launches, but overall as I mentioned I'm finding my personal experience in ESO the lesser polished and over buggy compared to Wildstar.
The bottom line will be sub retention. We'll see how the numbers shake out 6 months from now for each game. I'm hoping they both game succeed and succeed big.
On a side note: probably shouldn't offer the WS guest passes - might get the thread closed lol.
The name is courtesy of the Guild Wars 2 random name generator. I'm not real creative on my own
They both did have pretty good launches, pretty standard stuff. Much better than some past ones (I constantly complain about the FFXIV:ARR launch myself).
I hope both games are successful enough to remain sub based long enough for boyfriend and I to get our fill. Tend to dislike the F2P stuff, have no idea how long either of us will subscribe to either game.. and I tend to be rather selfish in that I don't care whether a game goes F2P or not after I'm exhausted/bored of it. Probably a mean thing to say, but it's rather true.
It's why I tend to dislike most of the "how many people are playing?" and "when do you think the game is going F2P?" threads on any game. It just doesn't matter to me because there's nothing I can do about it either way. Even if I knew the date a game was going under, I'd still play up until that point.. knowing the date doesn't do anything for me.
As to the guest passes.. I would hope they'd just remove my post and not close the thread :x I haven't gotten a warning about it (yet).. but no one has messaged me for one either.
Thread earlier today had SWTOR in the title and got closed. Read the reasons but couldn't find the violation. Beware ye!
I musta missed that one. Most the threads I see get closed fall into four categories.
1. Goodbye thread (this is the most common I see)
2. Talking about threads being closed or how mods moderate.
3. Complaining about the complainers.
4. Not involving ESO at all. Totally off topic.
I've not got a warning against my account yet.. even when bringing up other games. So either folks aren't reporting me (that isn't a complaint!) or it's okay as long as the post is also on topic or something. Admittedly I tend to stick to the general discussion here. With glances at the dev tracker to try and keep educated on incoming updates. So what I see is probably skewed is other stuff is posted elsewhere. I'm also not able to man the forums 24/7 to see all threads closed and reasons listed.
Update: I found the SWTOR one.. that's the first time I've actually seen that reason. That thread I personally don't see as breaking any rules.. but.. oh well. I'm still gonna leave the guest pass offer open.. cause I really do think people should play something and then decide for themselves, and not just listen to reviews/forum goers.Edited by Lalai on June 19, 2014 11:22PMFisher extraordinaire!
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Arora✭✭✭then go do something besides grinding, go chat with friends and goof around, go find skyshards, go do dungeons, go *** around in pvp, there are many other things to do in game when you get burned out.Arora Moon - EB- Nightblade
Arora Moonlight- EB- Sorcerer
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Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you grind you've no one to blame but yourself. More than most MMOs ESO is about the journey not the destination. But time and time again people seem to choose to blindly ignore this fact. I really confuses me.If you can be anything, be kind.1 -
Yasha✭✭✭✭✭
Compared to WS, ESO is a masterpiece in regard to graphics.Some folks like playing "Bunnies in Space" but I just couldn't see getting into a game with characters like this:
The suspension of disbelief would just be too difficult to pull off, and I've no interest in spending time in a universe of cartoonish space bunnies and hamsters.
Believe me, the graphics are the least of its problems, I think the clunky combat, terrible performance even on powerful systems and the horrid quests get the podium
The combat's a hell of a lot tighter than in ESO.
Don't care - still looks like some freakish hybrid of a bad Japanese anime flick and a Tom and Jerry cartoon, complete with cartoonish hamsters and bunnies.
Sorry, but just can't get into something like that. Perhaps were I a teenager...
Yeah cos ESO is real mature...
This apple is a masterpiece, that orange not so much.
Huh?
I'll make it easier for you to understand:
WS graphics = crap
ESO graphics = good
I was actually surprised at how good the graphics are in WS, the youtube vids and screenshots don't do it justice; on my system it was really amazing. I like the ESO style much, much better though.
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Yasha✭✭✭✭✭Rev Rielle wrote: »If you grind you've no one to blame but yourself. More than most MMOs ESO is about the journey not the destination. But time and time again people seem to choose to blindly ignore this fact. I really confuses me.
That is very true for the pve side of the game (and it is awesome), but the trouble is pvp.
Like you say pve is about the journey, but pvp in this game is about being as high a level/rank/geared up as possible. Hopefully non-vet campaigns will help alleviate this issue, but that is not going to be an option for a while.
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vyrusb23✭✭✭✭✭I've played my month. I can't justify paying a monthly fee to play a single player game. I'd rather just continue playing skyrim for free.
There is no 4-man, 12-man and PvP in Skyrim. No grouping options. No world bosses scaled for mulitplayer, either. And no guilds. No trading between players. If you missed that all these multiplayer features are in the game, you must have done somthing wrong. Zenimax is looking into the phasing technology to make it easier to quest together. When this works better, the leveling content is more "scaled" towards duo+ play than f.i. a game like WoW. Which has been P2P for 10 years.
I was using hyperbole to make a point (which obviously went over your head). The point is that any MMO that forces you to solo is bad .... real bad. What goes over my head is the discussion that must have taken place when they decided to implement that terrible feature.
"Don't you think it would be great to force people to solo many of the instanced quests?!?!"
"Oh my god! That's like a next-generation-kind-of-idea!!!"
"Yea! Like, even if they're already in a team, they'll have to do it by themselves!"
"They won't be able to give help or receive help at all on these quests!!"
"That's a great idea for a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game!!!"
No thanks. Once they fix this, I'll definitely give it a try again. But until they do, I'd rather play an MMO that doesn't force me to solo.1 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kyle_Roberts wrote: »
Well then, by all means enjoy playing "Space Bunnies and Hamsters" with the rest of the teenagers.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Lalai✭✭✭✭I've played my month. I can't justify paying a monthly fee to play a single player game. I'd rather just continue playing skyrim for free.
There is no 4-man, 12-man and PvP in Skyrim. No grouping options. No world bosses scaled for mulitplayer, either. And no guilds. No trading between players. If you missed that all these multiplayer features are in the game, you must have done somthing wrong. Zenimax is looking into the phasing technology to make it easier to quest together. When this works better, the leveling content is more "scaled" towards duo+ play than f.i. a game like WoW. Which has been P2P for 10 years.
I was using hyperbole to make a point (which obviously went over your head). The point is that any MMO that forces you to solo is bad .... real bad. What goes over my head is the discussion that must have taken place when they decided to implement that terrible feature.
"Don't you think it would be great to force people to solo many of the instanced quests?!?!"
"Oh my god! That's like a next-generation-kind-of-idea!!!"
"Yea! Like, even if they're already in a team, they'll have to do it by themselves!"
"They won't be able to give help or receive help at all on these quests!!"
"That's a great idea for a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game!!!"
No thanks. Once they fix this, I'll definitely give it a try again. But until they do, I'd rather play an MMO that doesn't force me to solo.
It was probably more along the lines of a discussion on how they could best give the player an experience where they (the player) felt like a hero, and that their individual choices were making an impact in the world.
In a lot of developer discussions (not just for this game, but industry in general) there's talk of how to use phasing to tell the individual story in an MMO, where it's easy to get lost in the mass of people, all on the same quest as you.
I do think they went a tad overboard with it being forced, but can see where they may have at least wanted to try it, or thought it fit best with their game/vision. SWTOR kind of did the same in the beginning, where people could join you on your story missions, but only if they were a different class. I don't know if it's still that way, and that doesn't make it a good decision.. but it is something heavily story driven.
I personally disapprove of forced soloing and forced grouping when talking about the main storyline of games. Don't mind either for side stuff.Fisher extraordinaire!
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