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why do you ppl wanna kill the game even faster lol. no sane human beeing will do the quest grind even once. how will anyone ever make an alt? what u think is gonna happen in a year when vr20 is the cap? whats gonna happen in 2 years? 3 years? 5 years? (assuming the game is still running then which is, given the recent idiotic decisions they made, extremely doubtful but still.)

seriously can u ppl just stop beeing so narrow minded and for once use your god damn brain. leave the quests in for the roleplayers but give normal people who dont enjoy that crap a possibility to lvl quickly so we can actually play the game for what we bought it for.

its really frikkin simple. no serious PvPer wants to do that pve crap. the only ones that wanna do it are the ppl who love pve/roleplaying and have that as their focus anyway. thats cool, they can do mindless quest grind till vr9000 for all i care but for the love of mfkin god let us PvP folks fast skip that trash and let us get to the content we bought the game and pay our god damn sub for.

I both PvE and PvP, why should some people have 'a free pass' over the other? Personally I think people are a bit to spoiled regardless of whichever there should be some consequenses playing any game.... if the meaning is to rush directly to max level... then why not simply play a normal FPS game, Quake, Battlefield, counterstrike and others that is the true form PvP afterall.... and no sub needed either than just paying once for the game..

Solution as they implent into the game now is sub vr, pvp zone and vr. pvp zones only, so people would not be face rolled as a level 10 running into a bunch of vr10+

An effort should be required regardless of what people think, but that is just my opinion... would like to see the effort doing it all given some bonusses to it as well.. in my eyes that would seem appropiate.

what stops you from grinding to max level for pvp and still do the quests for gold/skill points/titles/whatever if u enjoy both. not everyone enjoys pve so dont be so selfish.

fps and mmo are 2 completely different things so that comparison carries zero weight.

MMO PvP = Easy mode Social PvP ( You just have to be close enough on the player to him him/her) and you can take multiple hits.. strategy involved, but way more lose in MMOs

FPS PvP = More hardcore and competetative PvP ( you have to actually aim ) you can be oneshot with a possible headshot, differs a bit from the different fps out there.

Scenario for MMO and FPS = Kill the opponent, archieve this or that objective in short.

Not a big difference

To the matter... what would you had done or anyone else for that matter if there had been no exploits grinding to max level fast at all other than doing the actual content and having been playing the game as intended.... somehow people elude that side of the matter completely.. making most that is for those exploits complete hipocrits...

1) mmo and fps are 2 completely different genres.... seriously stop trolling

2) first of all none of these grind spots are an exploit. seriously you ppl dont even know what an exploit even is so stop throwing that phrase around as if u even knew what you´re talking about.

using a bug to get inside geometry to kill mobs/players from an unreachable spot for example..THAT is an exploit. repeatably doing the same content over and over in the intended way is NOT an exploit. never was and never will be so stop calling it like that.

You are the one trolling him . First MMO is not a kind of game MMORPG is,as well as MMOFPS .Here the rpg stand so that mean that u build your character and so asking that a V12=V1 in power and so why not V12=V1=lvl 10 is the same thing than asking to delete the progression of characters and the RPG component by doing so it leave you with only the MMO part.So yeah for all the PVP champion who don't want to "lose " time building your character and dream of a perfectly balance and ultra competitive game where only team skill matter ,be happy this game already exist it is called Counter strike .

1) learn english. i had to read that 4 times to even make some sense of it. admitted its hard to make sense of it as even in perfect english that statement is just ridiculous.

2) no1 ever wanted vr1=vr12=l10. the power gap between the vr´s is fine. no problem with tthat at all. the entire point was that it shouldnt be required to do stupid boring quests to get to vr12. instead there has to be a quick grinding way to get there.

3) thx for your clueless input tho. next time try to comprehend whats beeing said before you reply with some nonsense like you just did. until then better just be quiet

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lao wrote: »

schroed360 wrote: »

lao wrote: »

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

lao wrote: »

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

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lao wrote: »

why do you ppl wanna kill the game even faster lol. no sane human beeing will do the quest grind even once. how will anyone ever make an alt? what u think is gonna happen in a year when vr20 is the cap? whats gonna happen in 2 years? 3 years? 5 years? (assuming the game is still running then which is, given the recent idiotic decisions they made, extremely doubtful but still.)

seriously can u ppl just stop beeing so narrow minded and for once use your god damn brain. leave the quests in for the roleplayers but give normal people who dont enjoy that crap a possibility to lvl quickly so we can actually play the game for what we bought it for.

its really frikkin simple. no serious PvPer wants to do that pve crap. the only ones that wanna do it are the ppl who love pve/roleplaying and have that as their focus anyway. thats cool, they can do mindless quest grind till vr9000 for all i care but for the love of mfkin god let us PvP folks fast skip that trash and let us get to the content we bought the game and pay our god damn sub for.

I both PvE and PvP, why should some people have 'a free pass' over the other? Personally I think people are a bit to spoiled regardless of whichever there should be some consequenses playing any game.... if the meaning is to rush directly to max level... then why not simply play a normal FPS game, Quake, Battlefield, counterstrike and others that is the true form PvP afterall.... and no sub needed either than just paying once for the game..

Solution as they implent into the game now is sub vr, pvp zone and vr. pvp zones only, so people would not be face rolled as a level 10 running into a bunch of vr10+

An effort should be required regardless of what people think, but that is just my opinion... would like to see the effort doing it all given some bonusses to it as well.. in my eyes that would seem appropiate.

what stops you from grinding to max level for pvp and still do the quests for gold/skill points/titles/whatever if u enjoy both. not everyone enjoys pve so dont be so selfish.

fps and mmo are 2 completely different things so that comparison carries zero weight.

MMO PvP = Easy mode Social PvP ( You just have to be close enough on the player to him him/her) and you can take multiple hits.. strategy involved, but way more lose in MMOs

FPS PvP = More hardcore and competetative PvP ( you have to actually aim ) you can be oneshot with a possible headshot, differs a bit from the different fps out there.

Scenario for MMO and FPS = Kill the opponent, archieve this or that objective in short.

Not a big difference

To the matter... what would you had done or anyone else for that matter if there had been no exploits grinding to max level fast at all other than doing the actual content and having been playing the game as intended.... somehow people elude that side of the matter completely.. making most that is for those exploits complete hipocrits...

1) mmo and fps are 2 completely different genres.... seriously stop trolling

2) first of all none of these grind spots are an exploit. seriously you ppl dont even know what an exploit even is so stop throwing that phrase around as if u even knew what you´re talking about.

using a bug to get inside geometry to kill mobs/players from an unreachable spot for example..THAT is an exploit. repeatably doing the same content over and over in the intended way is NOT an exploit. never was and never will be so stop calling it like that.

You are the one trolling him . First MMO is not a kind of game MMORPG is,as well as MMOFPS .Here the rpg stand so that mean that u build your character and so asking that a V12=V1 in power and so why not V12=V1=lvl 10 is the same thing than asking to delete the progression of characters and the RPG component by doing so it leave you with only the MMO part.So yeah for all the PVP champion who don't want to "lose " time building your character and dream of a perfectly balance and ultra competitive game where only team skill matter ,be happy this game already exist it is called Counter strike .

1) learn english. i had to read that 4 times to even make some sense of it. admitted its hard to make sense of it as even in perfect english that statement is just ridiculous.

2) no1 ever wanted vr1=vr12=l10. the power gap between the vr´s is fine. no problem with tthat at all. the entire point was that it shouldnt be required to do stupid boring quests to get to vr12. instead there has to be a quick grinding way to get there.

3) thx for your clueless input tho. next time try to comprehend whats beeing said before you reply with some nonsense like you just did. until then better just be quiet

1) You are right my english is not really good and I m on my phone so it is hard to whrite in a correct manner.At least thanks for trying to understand.

2)My point is if you had fast grinding spot how fast would it be?30hours ? Why not 10? And why not 1? Or better! Instant! So this was for the V1=V12.And by that logic I say that game without any level could be better for you.I just don't understand the point playing a game where level gap is fine as you say if this gap is meaningless due to a difference of just a few hours...After I can understand that you would like other way to level than questing ...

3) The point as stated before was to help you understand what someone else tried to explain with his FPS exemple.But as I understand after reading that "hardcore player/gamer " mean MMO(RPG I m not sure) PVP player...I may be bad in english grammar but you need a lot of work on " english meaning " because I was' t born yet but I m sure that they was a lot of Hardcore PONG player.

4)I want to applause you and grant you the world trolling award because in 6 years reading flaming and bad topic I always avoid to lose my time answering it and I really don't know why I act differently this time.I think it may be because I m tired to see so much poeple who don't like RPG in MMORPG...