The 1v1 that went for 10 minutes straight....

Nickers · June 2014

I hope the DK in question recorded this fight, sounds hilarious

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2014

So we have an NB who killed 19 players without getting back on him, QQ about a DK who killed him, calling DKs OP?

SERIOUSLY?

Surely the other 19 should call that NB OP also. Or the NBs are just QQ children who believe they are the master class in this game and deserve to be OP, at the crapiest of the builds?

What where the other 19 classes that he one shotted without retaliation? I doubt any good Templar players, because they could have made him eat dust like this DK did. And since rarely are any Templars in Cyrodiil nowadays, statistically faced NBs, SC and DKs.

So hardly a statement that DKs are OP.

Those Glass cannons are just dead meat. Because they are made of GLASS.
They are good against noobs, but when they try to hit someone prepared, they simply die. That's how they spec they toons, and thats what is the outcome.

Do not expect Glass to win in PVP against good skilled players. Full STOP.
Especially against tanks.

I play a Khajiit Templar, melee oriented. Is as pathetic combination as someone can imagine.
HOWEVER. I eat for breakfast those NBs who believe they are brave enough to attack me.

I am well prepared to withstand the initial critical hits from stealth, and I can send them flat to the ground during the duration of the combat without being able to retaliate a single hit.

Am I OP? I doubt it. However I do know how to play. I keep my qbar simple, adapting to the circumstances and not blindly following a "chain" of attacks.

On same setup other Templar players struggle to survive, let alone to kill something.
It always down to the player, his playstyle and how has adapted the class skills on that playstyle.

Soulac · June 2014

I'm a Nightblade V12 and all I do is PvP.
Dks, Sorcs, what ever, i kill everything in 1o1 with my build.
Okay, NB isnt easy to play, but they are the best in 1o1.
Melee NB or Caster NB, both works really good.

Dks are just really better in Group Fights, but NB are helpfull too

Veil of Blades, Sap Essence as example.

glitchmaster999 · June 2014

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

So we have an NB who killed 19 players without getting back on him, QQ about a DK who killed him, calling DKs OP?

SERIOUSLY?

Surely the other 19 should call that NB OP also. Or the NBs are just QQ children who believe they are the master class in this game and deserve to be OP, at the crapiest of the builds?

What where the other 19 classes that he one shotted without retaliation? I doubt any good Templar players, because they could have made him eat dust like this DK did. And since rarely are any Templars in Cyrodiil nowadays, statistically faced NBs, SC and DKs.

So hardly a statement that DKs are OP.

Those Glass cannons are just dead meat. Because they are made of GLASS.
They are good against noobs, but when they try to hit someone prepared, they simply die. That's how they spec they toons, and thats what is the outcome.

Do not expect Glass to win in PVP against good skilled players. Full STOP.
Especially against tanks.

I play a Khajiit Templar, melee oriented. Is as pathetic combination as someone can imagine.
HOWEVER. I eat for breakfast those NBs who believe they are brave enough to attack me.

I am well prepared to withstand the initial critical hits from stealth, and I can send them flat to the ground during the duration of the combat without being able to retaliate a single hit.

Am I OP? I doubt it. However I do know how to play. I keep my qbar simple, adapting to the circumstances and not blindly following a "chain" of attacks.

On same setup other Templar players struggle to survive, let alone to kill something.
It always down to the player, his playstyle and how has adapted the class skills on that playstyle.

A nightblade out of sneak catching people of guard...... and yeah nightblades are underpowered, you make that a 3v3 with three nightblades vs 3 dragonknights and they will lose no matter what.

Catching someone on a horse or just plain out of sneak means they are dead, I was an aldmeri dominion in bruma, they don't expect me there.

drackonir · June 2014

face it, you are just bad player, nothing more, nothing less.

When I am jumped by a NB I expect that, but in my case most NB after seeing their fail just vanish and run away. You from the other hand, seeing your own failure, were bashing DK for 10min!!! And you dare to tell others they have no brain?

Guess what? You can use shield too, how shield makes DK OPed

Or wait, you just another troll calling for nerf DK?

Thechemicals · June 2014

Nightblades never give me problems. I think people are playing them wrong. Many classes are trying to play like a sorcerer is the problem, even i am guilty of this.

purple-magicb16_ESO · June 2014

NB & Sorc do way more dps than DK. I know bcoz as a DK I'm on the flipside of this story. I find I can't keep up with the NB & Sorcs in my group. They take out enemies way faster than I ever could. Seems like the blink of an eye and I haven't even gotten one hit in. Not saying you're wrong, just saying I have a different experience. Maybe its the build they/I'm using, altho I've done a lot of experimenting with my build. Even reset my skills in Stormhold. I think the variables make all the difference.

Malvokian · June 2014

I think any discussion of class vs class should revolve entirely around class specific abilities. Bringing in other universal abilities does nothing but muck up the water

Ryanator114 · June 2014

There is nothing wrong with dk's, nerfing their survivabilty will kill this class, all they got is 1 heal (unless you use resto) NB's can stealth and run at anytime they are losing a fight, sorc has bolt, templar has a whole skill line for heals.

Dk's can't run from a fight, once they have nothing left to throw at you it's game over.. so stop trying to get them to nerf DK's more, imo NB's need nerfing they "Fixed/buffed" them way too much.. it's about time they get the nerf hammer's attention, no class should be able to bring tanks to 50% health with one ability.. and pretty much one shot anything else that isnt wearing heavy armor.

drackonir · June 2014

glitchmaster999 wrote: »

I am a nightblade dps, my build has siphoning strikes and strife in it.

I met a dragonknight in bruma, I came out of sneak with my full dps kit and he healed it off, I sniped to reduce healing, he still healed it off. It was literally me beating on him watching him auto attack me and get his mana back while tanking the 720 dps I could dish out. When he got bored of tanking me, he ulted, shield bashed me and then burst me down in a matter of seconds.....

To all the people that say dragonknights are fine, they have been nerfed into the ground. I would agree except for the damage that they do while still being invincible is unbelievable. I was on a roll in bruma, I got my 19th player kill from 1v1 encounters and then this.

I'm not mad about it, it was kind of funny, he even sat on my smoldering corpse but there still seems to be a bit of a balance problem if he can literally stand there and never die.

Malvokian, but please read OP statement again, I still smile when read it, again and again.
OP ambushed DK, he expected easy win but DK probably had full mana so he survived. He poped up his shield in order to regen mana he spent on self healing and occasionally used autoatack to build up ultima. In meantime he was regenerating all the time as OP was madly DPSing him. I bet he was unable to use his mana on anything else as he needed it for healing. After 10 minutes he finally droped down his ultima i spent all his mana on DPS burst to the surprise of OP who hit the dirt

He just killed in 1:1 19 other players and yet he complains about lack of balance

Paladin_echo1 · June 2014

Ryanator114 wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with dk's, nerfing their survivabilty will kill this class, all they got is 1 heal (unless you use resto) NB's can stealth and run at anytime they are losing a fight, sorc has bolt, templar has a whole skill line for heals.

Dk's can't run from a fight, once they have nothing left to throw at you it's game over.. so stop trying to get them to nerf DK's more, imo NB's need nerfing they "Fixed/buffed" them way too much.. it's about time they get the nerf hammer's attention, no class should be able to bring tanks to 50% health with one ability.. and pretty much one shot anything else that isnt wearing heavy armor.

Templars need help... A lot of help.

Vis · June 2014

No more nerfs. I am tired of everyone getting nerfs.

Is green dragon blood very powerful? Yes.

Can a DK use it as an Iwin button? Sometimes.

But let us look past the skill, it's not the skill you're upset over, but rather his ability to nuke you while never letting go of block.

That is why before anyone asks for any more nerfs, the devs need to look at the fundamental mechanics of combat.

Disclaimer: I am a sorc who hates DKs who use that tactic and cramp my "quick kill" gank style ... but I hate even more the "cheap fixes" that are nerfs.

Buff the classes or change the mechanics ... NO MORE NERFS!

Vis · June 2014

This is why I am also against Arenas/Duels ... this is an RPG. Some builds will be better at specific roles than others.

Once we get in a mindset that all things should be balanced around 1v1s, we enter the conundrum that no class can be equal unless they are identical.

Vis · June 2014

Ryanator114 wrote: »

sorc has bolt.

Stop using that as an example of an escape. We're tired of hearing it. Most of us use it in combat. Bolt is now broken as a combat tool while working as good as ever as a perma-escape. Most of us would rather stay in the fight and have a chance to win than be faced with the prospect of "escape now or not?"

Edit: Can you tell this is still a sore spot? lol