How exactly do chests, cabinets, drawers, etc. work?

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO

So I've been looking around for a while now for motifs since the 'nerf' and have still not found a single motif. Granted I don't spend my entire day farming for them, but I do check every nook and cranny of every NPC house and building I come across during my travels. Yet, to no avail I have not found a single one.

This struck some curiosity; I am a little confused as to how chests, cabinets, drawers, etc. work. Specifically when do they reset to have loot in them again? Seems as though everytime I go into an NPC house / building, it's already been looted. It's getting quite frustrating and maybe knowing would ease my frustration.


Thanks in advance for any info

ShintaiDK

Server reboot. Its a broken system it seems.

vyal

Similar to many knee-jerk reactions from Zenimax, the attempt to stop botters taking advantage of a system has affected legitimate players too. Or put another way, the dragnet is not particular.

Whatever mechanism they're using now, normal players are presumed guilty of cheating/hacking/exploiting/botting. Otherwise, normal players would have the same drop rate as previously. Alas, such an elegant solution is apparently beyond the skill of Zenimax developers.

Personally, I feel all the motifs should be:
- wrapped into quests to obtain them at the intended levels.
OR
- simply made available on vendors for a large fee, as a money sink.
OR
- changed to be bind on pickup and made as common as previously.

Any of these solutions is better than changing the drop rate from .1% to 0.001% along with some other "zomg, you're a cheater, no motif for you, nub" spaghetti code they put in 1.0.6.

mj8411ub17_ESO

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

So I've been looking around for a while now for motifs since the 'nerf' and have still not found a single motif. Granted I don't spend my entire day farming for them, but I do check every nook and cranny of every NPC house and building I come across during my travels. Yet, to no avail I have not found a single one.

just imagine how happy you'll be when your just running along and decide to open a random crate and BAM! ....daedric motif

cabbageub17_ESO

Bound on pick up all that's needed. Bound to acct though not character.

Akhratos

Level36 EP started after the "fix".

Completed every single zone up to the rift. All quests, dungeons, visited every home, looted every dresser/nightstand...

Got a breton motif book as a gift from a guildmate that felt sorry for me. Then I came along an arghonian in the guild store for 600g, a dunmer for 750g, an altnerd for 900g...

Not a single one dropped.

babylon

Exactly. Motifs and recipes should be bind on pickup (bound to account). Then return drop rates back to what they were previously.

Only person this hurts is the goldsellers/exploiters. Normal players who just want to craft would get to play as always. The economy should never be based on RNG loot, it should be based on hard work and effort.

Kalann_Pander

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Bound on pick up all that's needed. Bound to acct though not character.

+1.
Anything that kicks RMT in the groin.

Since the nerf, I've found a couple every week, so I guess you just have bad luck, sorry.

Nazon_Katts

I wouldn't mind a decreased drop rate. But currently it's zero since all containers are empty wherever I go. I can be happy if I stumble across an unlooted backpack in the boondocks.

Galen_the_Black

Not true. I too thought that the motif drop is rare, but at level 29 as of this morning I finally completed all 9 basic races. of those 9 2 were bought. 1 for 400g and another as a trade for an Argonian motif.

I also sold 2 other motifs as they were duplicates of ones that I already got.

I've only been playing for 3 weeks so I don't see the drop rates too bad. Getting the rarer motif's should be harder but since I take my time playing I should be able to get them eventually.

Just my 2 Septims

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO

Galen_the_Black wrote: »

Not true. I too thought that the motif drop is rare, but at level 29 as of this morning I finally completed all 9 basic races. of those 9 2 were bought. 1 for 400g and another as a trade for an Argonian motif.

I also sold 2 other motifs as they were duplicates of ones that I already got.

I've only been playing for 3 weeks so I don't see the drop rates too bad. Getting the rarer motif's should be harder but since I take my time playing I should be able to get them eventually.

Just my 2 Septims

I've been searching for motifs since Veteran rank 1, I am now Veteran rank 6 and haven't found anything.

LIQUID741

BoP...or quest related. Would love to see them quest related.

Phantax

The whole containers thing is seriously bugged -

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/95240/empty-bugged-loot-containers-bug-keeping-count/p1

Hopefully the next round of fixes (not 1.1) will address this issue !

daemonios

I keep finding the lower-level motifs even after the nerf. Have 8 in the bank now that I'm hoping to trade for the ones I'm missing (got 3 crafters with almost all common motifs on them).

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

I get them quite often, once a week.. after nerf if found Ancient elf, Barbaric 2x, and primal.. So its oke

Trenchfoot

How do these containers work? By never having anything in them that's how lol

Trenchfoot

Personally, I think that the rare motifs and recipes should be rare bound to account finds from containers but there should be also be a selection available through crafting quests.

For example, take myself as a provisioner and I want to be able to make VR epic food. Currently the recipes are rarer than virginal prostitutes, so imagine if you did a quest/quest chain for an npc who eventually gave you the option to pick from a selection of recipes. This could be done scaling throughout the entire levelling process, so common recipes at lower levels going all the way up to VR epics.

Same for the equipment professions. You could do a certain quest or quests and get to pick from rare motifs or hard to find traits for example.

As an alchemist you could get to learn to make potions that you otherwise would not have been able to discover yourself.

Things like that, you know

JinShepard01

What bugs me the most is the 80% of the desks, trunks etc being empty, or they arent and you open then and nothing comes out of them!!! If they changed the droprate from 0.1% to 0.001% it is still favouring bots over real players, because only those with bot programms will get them unless you're very lucky, so they in hindsight promote the use of bots to get motifs!

its the same with the stupid 'bandage' of 5 min cd between any boss for loot chance, legit players get punished. How many times did I miss out on something because I happen to came across 2 bosses within 5 mins.

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO

Trenchfoot wrote: »

Personally, I think that the rare motifs and recipes should be rare bound to account finds from containers but there should be also be a selection available through crafting quests.

For example, take myself as a provisioner and I want to be able to make VR epic food. Currently the recipes are rarer than virginal prostitutes, so imagine if you did a quest/quest chain for an npc who eventually gave you the option to pick from a selection of recipes. This could be done scaling throughout the entire levelling process, so common recipes at lower levels going all the way up to VR epics.

Same for the equipment professions. You could do a certain quest or quests and get to pick from rare motifs or hard to find traits for example.

As an alchemist you could get to learn to make potions that you otherwise would not have been able to discover yourself.

Things like that, you know

I actually really like this idea.