Bots are a GOOD THING.

Oldmanlawlor

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

I thoroughly enjoy farming in ESO. My guild mates would often just say "Old Man, are you still picking up flowers and stones in Wrothgar?", because I do it so much. I farmed so much last weekend that I had close to 1000 rubedite ingots and 800 ancestors silk. Along with tens of thousands of gold worth of alchemy materials.

You may say that 8 hours farming on Saturday and the same on Sunday is boring, but I really enjoy doing it. I only wish I got, even a small amount, of XP towards champion points for it.

well you do get a hell of alot of gold for it so that's your reward. it's not that farming mats isn't rewarding in the game. i have a guildmate who likes to do the same which is fine. he likes to do it so let him play the game the way he enjoys but i don't see why you need exp rewarded to it. but that's my opinion

Well basically I mean, you only really get XP for killing and combat. Now don't get me wrong I know there are quests that don't involve combat but they are few and far between. Being able to gain XP for farming is the ultimate of play however you want. What if someone wants to be a vet 16 botanist? A vet 16 miner?

Ya get me? There should be more to ESO than combat.

I have two vet 16 tanks, so I'm not complaining. I just think it should be an available option.

Artjuh90

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

I thoroughly enjoy farming in ESO. My guild mates would often just say "Old Man, are you still picking up flowers and stones in Wrothgar?", because I do it so much. I farmed so much last weekend that I had close to 1000 rubedite ingots and 800 ancestors silk. Along with tens of thousands of gold worth of alchemy materials.

You may say that 8 hours farming on Saturday and the same on Sunday is boring, but I really enjoy doing it. I only wish I got, even a small amount, of XP towards champion points for it.

well you do get a hell of alot of gold for it so that's your reward. it's not that farming mats isn't rewarding in the game. i have a guildmate who likes to do the same which is fine. he likes to do it so let him play the game the way he enjoys but i don't see why you need exp rewarded to it. but that's my opinion

Well basically I mean, you only really get XP for killing and combat. Now don't get me wrong I know there are quests that don't involve combat but they are few and far between. Being able to gain XP for farming is the ultimate of play however you want. What if someone wants to be a vet 16 botanist? A vet 16 miner?

Ya get me? There should be more to ESO than combat.

I have two vet 16 tanks, so I'm not complaining. I just think it should be an available option.

ye ok that would make the game more like a sandbox and doesn't force you into combat like most MMO's do

Volkodav

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Bots in any game are pathetic and honestly you account should be banned for even saying that they are.

What,and take away free speech in these forums??
(Oh Lord! What a thought!) XD

Elsonso

Acrolas wrote: »

On the plus side, it's an entertaining necro.

But there's one solid reason why bots aren't good for the game - because of the way the report text is written.

That if I see a toon named GGZZGGZZ running around in predictable, jerky run patterns mining nodes, behavior that looks exactly like botting... but somehow it isn't, then I'm the one who's going to get penalized. Even though both the name and the behavior are suspicious.

So if I'm 95% sure it's a bot, but I still can't prove it definitively, I'm not going to report it. So the bot owner won because of something ZOS said or did to deter me from reporting it. I'm going to look after my own *** first.

I don't think anyone is going to get penalized for reporting bots unless they go overboard and become more of a nuisance than the bots. ZOS knows that we cannot tell for sure that the player is a bot. I expect that more people are wrong about bots, macro-users, and hackers than are right. I would certainly not expect them to ban people just for being wrong.

I think that were people get into trouble is when they take on a crusade. They report the same player more than once, or constantly, over a set period of time. They enlist the help of others to report the same person in the hope that multiple reports will get more attention. They are too zealous about reporting everything they see that might be wrong. Swamping the people at ZOS that have to look into the reports is not good.

If I see someone doing something wrong, and I am fairly sure they are doing something wrong, and it is more than just a one-time thing and they are doing over a period of time, I will Report the player and just explain what I am seeing. I note the character name and ticket number so I remember and, after that, I just leave it alone. Report and move on. If I see them doing the same thing later, either ZOS has not gotten around to looking into them, or ZOS has not determined they are doing anything wrong. It is not my job to enforce the ToS, so as long as I report what I should reasonably report and let ZOS do the work, I have no concerns about ZOS coming after me.

Oh, and I do not whisper to them or, in any manner, make it known I am reporting them. I don't tell anyone else that I reported them. In this way, I run no risk of being threatening or harassing the other player.

All of that said, and given this is a 2014 thread, I do have to say that bots are largely gone compared to back then. It is so rare for me to report someone for being a bot that I can't remember when I last did it.

Argruna

Nuitar wrote: »

These gold selling companies are entire offshore teams paid a minimum wage to harvest gold in the most efficient way possible.

And let us ignore the fact that those people being 'paid a min wage' are usually working ten+ hour shifts for, as this article says 50p an hour. Converted to US? 71 cents an hour.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/mar/05/virtual-world-china

So no. Bots are a pox on games and can drive a game into the ground. I've played plenty of free to play games and freemium games and most ended the same way. They died because the bots became so bad there weren't that many players left that they could make 'a profit' from. I do not want to see ESO be so freaking empty to the point where no one is talking in zone chat because there is maybe you and ten other real players while everyone else is bots or gold farmers. And quite honestly, people who buy gold, especially for games like ESO and WoW are the laziest damn *** in the world. It is so aggravating to not only legit players but to the developers of the games themselves because now they have to pour more resources into destroying the bots than developing the game.

RandallFlagg

Nice try but no Bots are not a good thing.

rfennell_ESO

An obvious necro thread, but you gotta say ZOS did do a good job of eliminating the bot plague. Haven't seen them in a long while and that's a good thing.

Tabbycat

The only good bots are Transformers.

Oh and Codsworth.

JapanesePlayer

Tabbycat wrote: »

The only good bots are Transformers.

Oh and Codsworth.

indeed

Thevampirenight

Bots are bad,
they spam, zone chat so much it drives people out of the game.(Look at neverwinter )
It weakens the economy and players abilty to get gold.
They hack accounts use them to create new bots, meaning charaters being deleted and replaced by goldfarmers.
It can get you banned possibly for good by just buying gold from them, they are harmful to zenimax.
I am glad zenimax drove them off.
In other words this game is much better and possibly the best mmo for being one of the few to drive the botters away from the game. Putting measures in to prevent it and also helping hte game overall by getting rid of the ways bots can make fast gold. But also making it so they don't benefit because now the game has a player economy not a bot economy which would make it harder for bots, to once again take a foot hold.
Its easier for players to get gold now without having to buy gold, so basically that hurts them. No to bots!

nimander99

I wouldn't be surprised if the MMO makers themselves actually run some of these "Game Workshops" and sell the virtual currency themselves... I mean, they have created the market, why ignore such a large segment of it.