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Id names in guild chat.

theinsaneb16_ESO
Hi there ZOS,

Teso is a really awesome game but there is 1 thing I really find irritating and almost wants me and some friends of mine to not be in a guild anymore.

Its the @names, Could you pls remove that in the guild chats and let us see character names instead of our @ names? Or atleast implement an option for the players to turn it on or off. So we can choose in seeing our @names or character names from everyone in the guild?

Alot of ppl dont like this name system and some do, but its best for everyone to add the option to turn it on or off. Or just remove it entirely
  • Thalmar
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    I think the intension of the current naming system is beyond "like" it or "not like" it. It is intentionally designed this way, maybe since the system is too open to abuse guild banks and stores such as stealing things, sending to other chars and deleting the char who steal to prevent leaving evidence. With the current system there is no need for ZOS to investigate issue since it displays account name instead character.

    But i agree with you it is pretty annoying, taking all immersion out when you talk in guild chat, why should we bother to name our characters at the first place?
    Edited by Thalmar on May 13, 2014 6:56AM
  • ZakyUchiha
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    Account names are there so you can distinguish players if they log on another character.
    If you make a guild raid, it's sometimes hard to recognize 'who is who' as their names are different and a lot of people have alts with another name than their main character.

    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..
    Edited by ZakyUchiha on May 13, 2014 6:58AM
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  • Thalmar
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    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    Account names are there so you can distinguish players if they log on another character.
    If you make a guild raid, it's sometimes hard to recognize 'who is who' as their names are different and a lot of people have alts with another name than their main character.

    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    I really hardly think ZOS made their account naming for guild raids, guild raids can profit from such a policy but honestly don't think this is the one reason they choose to do it this way.
  • Boneidle
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    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    I feel quite lucky cos I got my first choice in name personally but there are people out there what chose a name thinking nobody else will see it and then they log in and everyone can see it. For some people it might be embarrassing to be called something that they didn't think would be seen.

    I wasn't aware when I selected my name that it would be on show at all times and I would say that I am not the only one who wasn't aware of it. I have seen some I know someone with a name so long for their @account name that in the chat it take a whole line of chat up and he said he wasn't aware that it would be seen.

    Zeni should give a "nickname" option for each account what you set and cannot be changed if they want a name to be seen in chat rather than character. On top of that showing account names imho is a bit of a security breach as one of the things you told by virtually every mmo or e-mail company or other sites what use user name "DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR ACCOUNT NAME OR PASSWORD" but you don't have to worry about that cos zeni did the first half for you.
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  • theinsaneb16_ESO
    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    Account names are there so you can distinguish players if they log on another character.
    If you make a guild raid, it's sometimes hard to recognize 'who is who' as their names are different and a lot of people have alts with another name than their main character.

    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    Ridiculous yo say that, its not about not liking my account name its the ppl make the account names make a char login and suddenly see that their account name is vissible to everyone in the guild, We were not warned or informed about this and we make our account names cause most of us always use it and its private. Now the whole privacy is gone and everyone can see our account names!

    Cant change it either, if we want it changed we need to buy a whole new game.

    Putting in the option to turn it on or off is the best they can do so we can all choose to put it on or off, or just remove it from the game entirely and make it a realID option like in wow.

    Dont like WoW anymore for awhile now but they only give account names to others when using realid. Here in TESO everyopne can see the names and easier for hackers to hack us.

    Raiding has nothing to do with it nor stealing from guild bank. Still saw our bank robbed clean by someone (log said so) he denied it I did a ticket and it seemed like a glitch zos told me themselfs even. Log is now fixed and it was not him it was indeed a bug / glitch.

    Pls remove the account names from guild chat/list ZOS or give us our own choice if we want to see everyones @names or not.

    Again this has nothing to do with liking our @names it has to do with privacy AND that we ourselfs would love to see character names instead of @names and I know most of the community would like this as well cause like someone else said in this thread "why do we even make character names"?

    Make a poll somewhere ZOS and inform us of it and choose from there or something but im 100% sure that the majority of the community would like to see this gone and make it some kind of realid.


  • Vandu83eb17_ESO
    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    Every mmo sofar i have played the account name was just for logging in so it acted as another "password" so people might use combination of words and numbers and make the account name wierd as of habbit...
    Boneidle wrote: »
    I wasn't aware when I selected my name that it would be on show at all times and I would say that I am not the only one who wasn't aware of it. I have seen some I know someone with a name so long for their @account name that in the chat it take a whole line of chat up and he said he wasn't aware that it would be seen.

    Im not sure when they added it in but atleast atm there is small info bubble saying usedid will show up ingame.
    I also didnt notice this when i made my account...
    Edited by Vandu83eb17_ESO on May 13, 2014 7:35AM
  • ZakyUchiha
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    Thalmar wrote: »
    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    Account names are there so you can distinguish players if they log on another character.
    If you make a guild raid, it's sometimes hard to recognize 'who is who' as their names are different and a lot of people have alts with another name than their main character.

    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    I really hardly think ZOS made their account naming for guild raids, guild raids can profit from such a policy but honestly don't think this is the one reason they choose to do it this way.

    This is just an example. A lot of people have alts they play on and probably are in 5 guilds. Guilds are account wide and have a cap of 500 members. Imagine all the alts there will be in that guild if it wasn't account wide and the confusion.

    You guys worry about getting hacked? There is an authentication code system..
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    Race: Imperial
    Faction: Ebonheart Pact
    Server: EU Megaserver
  • Gwarok
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    Every mmo sofar i have played the account name was just for logging in so it acted as another "password" so people might use combination of words and numbers and make the account name wierd as of habbit...

    As per the registration page:
    Your password must contain at least 8 characters (200 max).
    Your password must contain at least one letter (A-Z) and one number (0-9).
    Your password can only contain letters (A-Z), numbers (0-9), and punctuation.

    Your password must contain at least 8 characters (200 max).

    I seriously took this literally just because of the fact that others, in-game, can see my "private" user log-in name.
    Edited by Gwarok on May 13, 2014 9:00AM
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  • fyendiarb16_ESO
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    This combined with the fact that you join guilds with your account instead of your character is why I probably will never join a guild other than trading guilds in this mmo.

    I always have alts that are not in the guild I am with my main characters. Often I just want to play the game without everyone to know I am online. Now this option is completely removed and all I can say is: "okay, no guilds for me in this game...ever" because of this completely moronic decision.

    Combine that with the fact that guilds are also multi-faction, removing all feeling of faction pride within guilds and you lose the notion as I always have seen it as how and what for guilds are made.

    They are now forced gaming communities with no ties to faction, no option to opt out with alts, no way for fellow guildmembers to see on which alt you are, etc, etc... worst guild system I have every seen in an mmo and I am very sad that they decided to go this route.

    Also add the fact that you thereby give everyone half your login info and thus reducing security as well...

    I really do not understand why anyone in his or her right mind would think this system is the best option to choose.

    /end rant
  • Lovely
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    Boneidle wrote: »
    people out there what chose a name thinking nobody else will see it

    I'm in such a situation. It shows my real name and I'm not exactly happy with that - I did the account on Beta and I didn't know it would display. I had hoped I would be able to change it once the game went live, but no such luck.

    I don't mind the system all that much, but I would like to change the display name. Or use something similar to battletags.
    Edited by Lovely on May 13, 2014 9:49AM
  • fyendiarb16_ESO
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    You would think after the realid disaster Blizzard went through that no company would think of going with the same idea. I find it surprising there is not as much outrage as there was with wow. The only reason they made it an option was as a result of the huge outrage.

    Yet a few years later we are playing an (freaking awesome) mmo with the same moronic system. So weird.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    You would think after the realid disaster Blizzard went through that no company would think of going with the same idea. I find it surprising there is not as much outrage as there was with wow. The only reason they made it an option was as a result of the huge outrage.

    Yet a few years later we are playing an (freaking awesome) mmo with the same moronic system. So weird.

    .....yeah, not even remotely the same thing. The RealID system had your full name as your account name/identity. This is just your account name being visible in guilds and only in guilds.
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  • Moon-and-Star
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    I don't like it because as stated already it makes it easier to hack your account. They have your log in name so half the work is done. I would like it better if they had an account name for people to see and then a sign in name that is kept private.
  • Thywin
    Thywin
    It is NOT true that it is not possible to change your account name. Actually it is quite easy, just contact support!
  • fyendiarb16_ESO
    fyendiarb16_ESO
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    You would think after the realid disaster Blizzard went through that no company would think of going with the same idea. I find it surprising there is not as much outrage as there was with wow. The only reason they made it an option was as a result of the huge outrage.

    Yet a few years later we are playing an (freaking awesome) mmo with the same moronic system. So weird.

    .....yeah, not even remotely the same thing. The RealID system had your full name as your account name/identity. This is just your account name being visible in guilds and only in guilds.

    You are correct I remembered it incorrectly. Probably because the reasons I stated in the first post in this topic were the same reasons I hated the idea of Real ID, my bad.

    When you are wrong, you are wrong and I admit it. The comparison with Real ID is not valid.
  • theinsaneb16_ESO
    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    Thalmar wrote: »
    ZakyUchiha wrote: »
    Account names are there so you can distinguish players if they log on another character.
    If you make a guild raid, it's sometimes hard to recognize 'who is who' as their names are different and a lot of people have alts with another name than their main character.

    P.S
    If you don't like your account name, why did you pick it in the first place..

    I really hardly think ZOS made their account naming for guild raids, guild raids can profit from such a policy but honestly don't think this is the one reason they choose to do it this way.

    This is just an example. A lot of people have alts they play on and probably are in 5 guilds. Guilds are account wide and have a cap of 500 members. Imagine all the alts there will be in that guild if it wasn't account wide and the confusion.

    You guys worry about getting hacked? There is an authentication code system..

    There is no authentication option. Teso doesnt have that at all. Dont tell lies.
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