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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

what these forums need

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1. suggestion forum
2. OT forum
  • nerevarine1138
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    1. You have a /feedback feature in-game. If you aren't in the game, you don't have relevant feedback.
    2. No. If you want to talk about something else, go to a forum about that topic.
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  • Xithian
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    At first I was put off by not having a suggestions forum... but after I thought about it, it's probably better to have suggestions be done in game as they are now. It keeps people without active accounts from suggesting things, which makes sense to me. It also keeps people from arguing about the suggested changes, which in turn keeps the process of looking through them easier for the devs.

    While I don't think an "off topic" forum would be good, I do wish there was a "General ESO" section. New Player Questions has inherited that role, because it's fairly unavoidable that ESO players on an ESO forum will want to chat about the game in general.
  • bluesodafizz
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    These forums need more pictures of cats. I hardly even feel like I'm on the interwebz :|:D
  • Turial
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    1. You have a /feedback feature in-game. If you aren't in the game, you don't have relevant feedback.
    2. No. If you want to talk about something else, go to a forum about that topic.

    1. Who the hell are you to say what is relevant or not?
    2. See above.

    This forum needs a block feature, if anything.
    Edited by Turial on May 12, 2014 6:06PM
    "Neither a 'Borrower nor a Lender' be."
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  • ZiRM
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    I like Jpgs.
    Want to become Vampire? 5k @ZiRM in game.
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  • Khandi
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    These forums need more pictures of cats. I hardly even feel like I'm on the interwebz :|:D

    Just stare at Xithian's picture like I do....

    One should always be in love. That is the reason one should never marry.

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  • Gedalya
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    NiRN wrote: »
    I like Jpgs.

    JRPGs? Also, if anyone has off-topic comments/questions et al. you can post it to the forums here: tamriel.org
    Baskin Robbins always finds out.

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  • ZiRM
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    Gedalya wrote: »
    NiRN wrote: »
    I like Jpgs.

    JRPGs? Also, if anyone has off-topic comments/questions et al. you can post it to the forums here: tamriel.org
    I can't decide if I enjoy Jpgs or Gifs more. Maybe both the same because after all Gifs are just Jpgs ran in succession like a flippy book.

    I'm leaning towards Gifs.


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  • nerevarine1138
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    Turial wrote: »
    1. You have a /feedback feature in-game. If you aren't in the game, you don't have relevant feedback.
    2. No. If you want to talk about something else, go to a forum about that topic.

    1. Who the hell are you to say what is relevant or not?
    2. See above.

    This forum needs a block feature, if anything.

    1. Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. I'll wait.
    2. The mods determine what is/isn't on-topic. There is no need for an off-topic forum, because there are other forums to discuss those topics.

    And if you really want to ignore someone's post, willpower is free.
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  • Orizuru
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    I would support a General Discussion forum, but not an Off Topic one. I don't want my monthly fees to go towards paying for additional storage on the web servers so players can post pictures of their cats/kids for strangers.

  • Crumpy
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    Lighten up Nerev
    Come ere and gissa cuddle
    I lyke not this quill.
  • LIQUID741
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    I would like to see more options as well. Along with class forums. I know that we have skill forums, but would be nice to have...oh and just throwing it out there...give us a trade forum. Be better than the dumpster fire of guild stores (the way that it's currently in game).
    Solid-Nightblade of AD
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.
  • Turial
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    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "
    "Neither a 'Borrower nor a Lender' be."
    Never Forget

    I think you have not been on the internet long enough until you have been rick-rolled.
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    Please check out Enchanting Alchemy - A Progression Guild
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Dunno, something like this maybe:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/802382

    If only we had a place for all these suggestions in one place to talk about and read about and comment on.
  • nerevarine1138
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.
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  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.
  • nerevarine1138
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.
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  • Xithian
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    Khandi wrote: »
    These forums need more pictures of cats. I hardly even feel like I'm on the interwebz :|:D

    Just stare at Xithian's picture like I do....

    <Insert George Takei "Oh my..." here>

    I post all of my cat pictures here.

    On of more relevant note, while you may want to post suggestions from work the convenience of that does not outweigh the benefit of having the devs get ideas directly from players guaranteed to have an active account and with none of the forum drama. Drama such as already appears in this thread suggesting that we have a suggestion forum section.
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?
  • nerevarine1138
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    No.

    If I'm one of the poor employees who has to wade through the seas of "OMG, nerf DKs!" suggestions, I'd be much happier having only one channel for those to come through. Otherwise I have to look at forums and at the in-game feedback box. Oh, and I have to try and eliminate the double-posting that would inevitably occur.
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  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    No.

    If I'm one of the poor employees who has to wade through the seas of "OMG, nerf DKs!" suggestions, I'd be much happier having only one channel for those to come through. Otherwise I have to look at forums and at the in-game feedback box. Oh, and I have to try and eliminate the double-posting that would inevitably occur.

    They already do that. Except as it is now, they have to wade through multiple forums on here to do it. Want to know why they do that? It's what they are getting paid to do. It's kind of their job. They also monitor boards at reddit, twitter, facebook and google+ and many other outlets.
  • Orizuru
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    Two avenues for suggestions would double the resources needed to organize and present the ideas to the relevant people. Suggestion forums tend to suffer from excessive trolling and lots of arguments that are not constructive, much like any other forum does. Having suggestions submitted privately ensures that everything read by ZOS is assumed to be constructive, whereas a forum requires some rather deep wading boots to find even an ugly pearl.
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    Two avenues for suggestions would double the resources needed to organize and present the ideas to the relevant people. Suggestion forums tend to suffer from excessive trolling and lots of arguments that are not constructive, much like any other forum does. Having suggestions submitted privately ensures that everything read by ZOS is assumed to be constructive, whereas a forum requires some rather deep wading boots to find even an ugly pearl.

    That's completely untrue.
  • Orizuru
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    Two avenues for suggestions would double the resources needed to organize and present the ideas to the relevant people. Suggestion forums tend to suffer from excessive trolling and lots of arguments that are not constructive, much like any other forum does. Having suggestions submitted privately ensures that everything read by ZOS is assumed to be constructive, whereas a forum requires some rather deep wading boots to find even an ugly pearl.

    That's completely untrue.

    That's a completely subjective opinion without any supporting arguments. Do you have a point?
  • nerevarine1138
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    Two avenues for suggestions would double the resources needed to organize and present the ideas to the relevant people. Suggestion forums tend to suffer from excessive trolling and lots of arguments that are not constructive, much like any other forum does. Having suggestions submitted privately ensures that everything read by ZOS is assumed to be constructive, whereas a forum requires some rather deep wading boots to find even an ugly pearl.

    That's completely untrue.

    Read the suggestion forums for WoW some time. Endless entertainment with no substance.
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  • Turial
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    Turial wrote: »
    I suggestion forum would be nice. If I'm sitting here at work, as I am while on the forums, and I think of something, a singular location for making that suggestion would be helpful on the foums. That helps to keep the other forums clear of those types of posts.

    Well apparently according to Nerev above....
    "Please explain what relevant feedback someone who isn't playing the game can provide. "

    Must you always make things personal?

    And if you have a genius brainwave while you aren't playing the game, either write it down or get a better memory. The /feedback feature guarantees someone at ZO reads it. The only reason you'd want a suggestions forum is to garner some kind of reaction from other players.

    Exactly why you would want to have a forum for suggestions. Other players can have other insight to an issue that perhaps you hadn't thought of.

    Sure they might. But usually people don't stick around to see what input people have for their suggestions (see this thread), because they don't want input. They just want people to validate their opinion. If they really want something to be looked at by the developers, they won't post in a forum, they'll submit the feedback in-game.

    What difference does it make if they have two avenues for suggestions? Wouldn't it be better to have more input than less?

    No.

    ALL HAIL THE OVERLORD NEREV!! MURDERER OF DISCUSSION AND SLAYER OF LOGIC!!
    Edited by Turial on May 12, 2014 10:40PM
    "Neither a 'Borrower nor a Lender' be."
    Never Forget

    I think you have not been on the internet long enough until you have been rick-rolled.
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    I like Cake......Yer what we need is more cake.



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  • lecarcajou_ESO
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    Turial wrote: »
    ALL HAIL THE OVERLORD NEREV!! MURDERER OF DISCUSSION AND SLAYER OF LOGIC!!

    Is that ESO's version of an MVP?

    "Morally Decentralized."
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