Things about ESO that just get under my skin....

Talrenos

Gold spammers:
Yep, that's number 1 on my whine list. They are persistent, spamming over and over. Filling my screen chatbox and not allowing me to actually talk to other people. As fast as I /ignore them, they come right back. Zenimax has made the problem worse by attempting to filter out web addresses, as a result the spammers simply fill in weird characters making their spam go from two lines to a wall of text. What I do not understand is why Zenimax wont simply Ban IP blocks to get rid of them, or better yet, just lock out non-US IP's. Why they have to play this 'game' back and forth I just don't get. Heres a thought: Why do we allow trading of gold between characters in the first place? Its not necessary, gold is very easy to obtain through normal means in the game. Besides a horse, what is there that we need gold for in any large quantities? I say just close down gold trading between characters and the gold spammers will vanish instantly.

NIghtblades:
I play a nightblade, spent points in DPS skills and things, yet there are quests I cannot do. Temple of the worm is an example; I just get slaughtered over and over, so I gave up on the main quest line and have no plans to ever finish it now. I did contact the GM's about it, and did get a very nice reply from a GM who played a nightblade, he told me how he did it, what skills to use and what kinds of things to do to complete the quest. (FYI: He did not provide spoilers, just what his build was to get it done) While that is really nice, I have no intention of playing his way, I don't like what his build is, and I want to play my character my way, and while I don't mind hard encounters, I detest impossible ones.

The Void & World objects:
Third place is the world itself, it feels unfinished and rushed, a lot of cookie cutter stuff and repetition. Oh don't get me wrong here, I love the world and the detail, its just that it looks like they put a TON of time into a few building types, and they look really awesome, but ran dry and simply repeated the same building over and over in areas. I am really tired of seeing the VOID everywhere. (That might be the developer side in me) Every door I open with a hand gesture reveals the VOID behind it, not to mention that each door opens and shuts partially which drives me insane when I see it as I know some person actually had to design it that way and it looks so wonky. Every time I see someone poking around in their bag, there's the VOID, every city well I see shows the VOID.... I look up and there are trees floating above my head in mid-air...Theres a quest I abandoned (due to #2 above) where I can literally fall off the edge of the world into the void, and its just a matter of swimming a short distance to do it.

Horrible names:
Heres a story for you, use it to determine if a name is poor, bad or just plain stupid.

The hearth-wife placed her hand upon the womans tummy, feeling the spasm of the convulsion. "It's time, you need to push this one out while you still have the strength." The woman tried to focus her eyes on the hearth-wife, but gave up and just shouted. "Ahhhh...Ooof.... I did not know it was this bad. I think this one must be the next chief, his head is so big" The hearth-wife knelt down, ready to assist. "Enough talk, Push now or this one will claw his way into Tamriel over your dead body" The woman surged, gathering her last vestiges of strength, managed to produce the child. The hearth-wife cleaned and swaddled the child, handing it to the mother. "What will you name this one?" The mother thought about it a moment, and looked into the eyes of the child with love. "This one will be called 'MurderYourAss' after his father, 'TeabagYourChin' ".............

Seriously, I don't expect everyone to Roleplay, but when I see just horrible names like those it just makes me want to shake some sense into people. I remember when I worked for sony and EQ, every name generated by a player had to be approved by a GM. It was a simple process, when the GM's were on, they would get a quick line on their screen with the name a player had chosen. They could quickly hit 'approve' or 'deny'. (If there were no GM's on a server at the time, the name would auto-approve if it passed the list check)

Ok, that's my whine/rant for the moment. I feel a little better stating what I want to say. This is more for Zenimax than players. I don't care one iota what other players thing about my post....

Saerydoth

IP bans haven't worked at all for over a decade now. They already use tunnels and proxies to disguise their location.

deathly809_ESO

Gold Sellers suck. But If I cannot trade gold to a player how do I buy things from them. Three thousand furs for that fancy piece of armor you say...

Also the IP stuff is pointless, just use a proxy. And only NA people on the NA server? Why? I don't have a problem with diversity.

I understand about not being able to play your way. I want to be a healer wearing only light armor and put everything in magic only. Why can't I just play my way! For some reason I can't kill almost anything and die all the time!

The biggest problem with the repetition is in the public dungeons and buildings. I can't remember if I have been to a dungeon or not if I never killed the dungeon boss.

The reason they let anyone have whatever name (as long as not offensive) is because there are a lot of players which means each one has to have a different names, and there are not enough GMs to verify all the names.

Reykice

I fully agree with everything except the "its impossible to finish this missions but i don`t want to use the skills i actually need to finish it" as it makes no sense... they allow you to make a lot of builds but not EVERY build will be equally good at killing a boss or aoe and so on.

Dumbing the game down so every player can solo anything just by pressing one button... well that is just sad.

The rest, as i said, i totally agree. I even reported some offensive names that are both humiliating for women and are insulting in my language... i got a lovely reply about how they are going to handle it but can`t talk about it... i still have that player with that exact name in my guild today. So there goes that.

As for gold spammers.... they already own the game and can hack their way as they want doubt ZENIMAX can stop them... half my guild quit saying that they will come back in a year when the game might actually be release worthy.

jaggedrelief

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

Horrible names:
Heres a story for you, use it to determine if a name is poor, bad or just plain stupid.

The hearth-wife placed her hand upon the womans tummy, feeling the spasm of the convulsion. "It's time, you need to push this one out while you still have the strength." The woman tried to focus her eyes on the hearth-wife, but gave up and just shouted. "Ahhhh...Ooof.... I did not know it was this bad. I think this one must be the next chief, his head is so big" The hearth-wife knelt down, ready to assist. "Enough talk, Push now or this one will claw his way into Tamriel over your dead body" The woman surged, gathering her last vestiges of strength, managed to produce the child. The hearth-wife cleaned and swaddled the child, handing it to the mother. "What will you name this one?" The mother thought about it a moment, and looked into the eyes of the child with love. "This one will be called 'MurderYourAss' after his father, 'TeabagYourChin' ".............

I LOLed.

Fairydragon3

My friend Like to use the name curbstompchaos...or does it really say curb stomp ch aos (curb stomped your ass)

dbennett707cub18_ESO

So because you want to play a gimped build, all content should be laughably easy for everyone else who wants to play an effective one? There are more than enough skill points for you to bend knee and do what the gm told you, then go back to doing what you want.

AlexDougherty

Gold Spammers, well yeah, most of us hate them, on this and every other MMO. I personally want to ban both the Goldsellers and the idiots who buy from them. If you are an idiot who buys from them, and doesn't like this, well tough, because you are an idiot who gives credit card details to unsecured sites.

As for just shutting down trading with gold, this would kill the game pretty quickly, as any crafters and traders would leave instantly, not after a few weeks, instantly.

Nightblades, yes they need rejigging, they are too focused on single attacks from stealth with no serious melee capabilities.

The World objects and the void. Well I don't agree here, while they have reused some buildings it's not as much as they did in Oblivion, and they tend to create a regional feel. The darkness behind doors, this is just an aspect of the mechanics, not a bother.

Names. Well I do prefer names that make sense, but TES has a history of giving silly names to Argonians and a few others too. So we can't really complain, apart from bots named fgfffjkfkajufg and the like.

Bots, which should have gone in with the gold sellers, are another pet hate of most of us. there is no defense of using a bot, it's either being lazy on the levelling, or raising gold & items for the gold sellers, and either way is evil.

Talrenos

deathly809_ESO wrote: »

Gold Sellers suck. But If I cannot trade gold to a player how do I buy things from them. Three thousand furs for that fancy piece of armor you say...

Also the IP stuff is pointless, just use a proxy. And only NA people on the NA server? Why? I don't have a problem with diversity.

I understand about not being able to play your way. I want to be a healer wearing only light armor and put everything in magic only. Why can't I just play my way! For some reason I can't kill almost anything and die all the time!

The biggest problem with the repetition is in the public dungeons and buildings. I can't remember if I have been to a dungeon or not if I never killed the dungeon boss.

The reason they let anyone have whatever name (as long as not offensive) is because there are a lot of players which means each one has to have a different names, and there are not enough GMs to verify all the names.

Actually IP Bans DO work, but your right about proxies. Fortunately there are a limited number of proxies and its actually easier to ban gold spammers when they work through a proxy. Simply ban the proxy server! An example: when you ban a gold spammer, ban his IP as well. I know that in EQ we could look up the last 5 IP's an account used. Usually if its a legit player we can see the IP does not change , and if it does, its in the same block as their ISP uses. If you merely ban the IP you will eventually catch the whole place serving a gold selling room, and start catching the proxies they use as well. soon it will become very difficult to get online for illegitimate gold spammers.

Since ESO is way more advanced than EQ was, I assume they have much better tools behind the scenes to combat and report. IP bans are only part of the solution, there is more that needs to be done. First you set up sting operations. Someone at Zenimax actually buys gold from a spammer site. This gold has to be delivered by an ingame person. The rest is easy. Once you know who the delivery person is, they obviously have a place where the gold for sale is stored, and they have to get it from there. You can follow the chain of contacts in the game over about a week and you will obtain every account for the farmers, the hacker accounts duping, the banker accounts holding the vast supplies of gold, and the delivery people. Take them all out in one fell swoop. Rinse, Lather and repeat as necessary until the gold sellers give up as they start to lose money. It takes about 3 days to set up a gold selling operation, if you kill them all weekly, they would be spending more in accounts and paying their workers than they could make in sales.

It can be done, it has been done, and I have done it. There is no excuse for letting this go on as it has.

I will mention that I bandied about the notion of halting in game gold trading, but someone mentioned that 'how would we sell items in the game to other players' I thought about it and have no idea that would render gold sales inoperable. One could always sell a single piece of Jute to a gold delivery person for the amount you purchased, and I do not think that placing a trade cap would be advisable, so I redact that idea completely.

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

-I say just close down gold trading between characters
-I just get slaughtered over and over.
-World objects:
-Simply repeated the same building over and over in areas.

I agree with these points.

I hated the repetition in the game. The repetition of housing interior and exteriors, and dungeon interiors, felt cheap.

Also hated the repetitive 'find missing person' quests.

Heavy armour in this game felt useless to melee attacks. Vet NPC's, even regular NPC's cut through my character like a knife through butter. With overcharge penalties to keep it that way.

AOE/ranged attacks were absolutely devastating in this game.

ESO invented the 'No-such-thing-as-a-tank'. For many of its quests.

AlexDougherty

sfradenb14_ESO wrote: »

An example: when you ban a gold spammer, ban his IP as well. I know that in EQ we could look up the last 5 IP's an account used. Usually if its a legit player we can see the IP does not change , and if it does, its in the same block as their ISP uses. If you merely ban the IP you will eventually catch the whole place serving a gold selling room, and start catching the proxies they use as well.

Um, Most of us have Dynamic IP ADdresses, these change frequently. I have to turn my router off about once a week, for local reasons, which resets my IP Address.

These Dynamic IP address are why you can't just start banning IP Address.
Static IP Address are becoming rarer and rarer, so this idea is steadily becoming less and less practical every day.

Jeremy

Chances are if things like bad player names and similar building styles make it to the top of your most-hated list that means the game is doing a lot of things right.

The gold spam is annoying. But I have seen it reduce steadily and it's easy to put them on ignore. So it hasn't been near the problem I have seen it on some other games I have played.

ciannait

Get X4DAntiSpam. It has some baked-in filters and if the spammers use a new one to get past it, you can turn on debugging to see what the new filter you want to make to block them should look like.

I also highly recommend FastReport for the botters / physics hackers.

Cogo

I agree wholeheartly with the OP.

Except on 1 part. Goldsellers/farmers.
Yes, they are a huge problem and interfear with our game way to much.
Zenimax is doing what they can to battle them, and as you have seen, Zenimax managed to get rid of quite a bunch.

The problem with goldfarmers/seller isn't the goldfamers themselves.
Its us fat gamers who goes to their sites and BUY gold. For some reason I can not comprehend, people still doing that.

The player community is the best defense for botters/goldfarmers.
There is an exellent and fast way to report a spammer. Both in mail and if you see a bit.

But more importantly, never, ever go to their websites and buy anything. I dont CARE that someone dont play enough to afford that item they want.
Every single time some moron buys gold, they bring MORE goldsellers here.

I urge everyone to report and stay away from these critters. AND if you have friends and guildmembers who are buying gold....they are ruining the game for YOU. Do not be afraid to tell them that.

I completely agree on names. I dont care what kind of name you come up with, as long as its something name like. "Iambob" is NOT a name.

I dont know why, but in WoW stupid names where everywhere and only once in a while you found decent names on players. ESO seams to be the opposite.
There are dumb names out there, but I dont see many of them

Kudos to your post. Nice reading in the morning!

Sariias

I don't mind bad names, they allow me to not-entirely-unfairly judge a player based on first impressions, and generally the truth presents itself shortly after interacting with them. Does it affect my roleplay immersion? Only if I let it. There are plenty of fools out in the realms of Elder Scrolls.

If anything, the sheer amount of Ragnar's, Drizzit's, Khaleesi's, and So&So the Grey's simply show that they have little to no personal identity or creativity. I feel it's okay to treat them accordingly. I have noticed a profound lack of Sephiroth names, but perhaps that is simply just revealing it's age (and probably mine, I guess). I guess I just find player names interesting, even terrible ones, because in a way it shows you who they are.

And I must admit, I have an Argonian alt mule who is named Farts-Without-Fear.

AryaWythers

They haven't fixed PvP bugs after so long!

NextGame

Disagree with the names thing in the original post. If that's how you get your kicks, then good for you, but personally I'm here to play the game; not play at lets pretend I'm actually a giant talking lizard etc.

Cogo

NextGame wrote: »

Disagree with the names thing in the original post. If that's how you get your kicks, then good for you, but personally I'm here to play the game; not play at lets pretend I'm actually a giant talking lizard etc.

Um, you know ESO is a MMORPG? If you dont know what that type of genre stands for, I'll be happy to enlighten you.

RP doesn't always mean you have to walk around, talk "wierd", tales at taverns about your journeys throughout Tamriel (We got one section on our forum just for that!)

Play how the hell you like . But as you say, you are here to play the game...a ROLEPLAY game.....