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[suggestion] disable multiboxing to get rid of bots
Adernath
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Hey, why not temporarily make multiboxing impossible to get rid of the bot problem?
Sorry for all those legit multiboxers out there, but for the sake for the experience of others it would be a reasonable step until better methods of how to deal with the problem can be put in place.
EDIT: one can also think of a multiboxing white list.
Edited by Adernath on May 5, 2014 1:46PM Sorry for all those legit multiboxers out there, but for the sake for the experience of others it would be a reasonable step until better methods of how to deal with the problem can be put in place.
EDIT: one can also think of a multiboxing white list.
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Disabling multiboxing isn't as easy as you think... that would have to bassicaly be done by microsoft and apple... no way for the game itself to do it...The statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...1 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭What I mean is simply to forbit to run more than one account from the same IP. This can be done by Zeni.Edited by Adernath on May 5, 2014 1:50PM2
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What I mean is simply to forbit to run more than one account from the same IP. This can be done by Zeni.
That would also disable the ability for gamingstores that offer computers for people to play on to conduct their business... And as someone said, people that have 2 or more kids would have to either let one kid play, or no kids so Dad can play
The statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...0 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭jsilva.casteloub17_ESO wrote: »lets just say a phone can have more than one number ok?
But you can not have more than one IP at a given time.
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Adernath✭✭✭✭✭stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »What I mean is simply to forbit to run more than one account from the same IP. This can be done by Zeni.
That would also disable the ability for gamingstores that offer computers for people to play on to conduct their business... And as someone said, people that have 2 or more kids would have to either let one kid play, or no kids so Dad can play
As I already said: You make a white list which must be approved by Zeni. And to get on such a list you can put more obstacles like a legit adress etc.
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Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭so the bots cant use multiboxing to make them more efficient. There is no follow function , and no tab targeting. These are very key in the process, otherwise, they are going to need a complete different computer (*or VM), game and sub, and some how work around the no follow or tab targetEdited by Fairydragon3 on May 5, 2014 1:59PM0 -
mailb16_ESO2Soul ShrivenSo, basically, in each family only one person should be allowed to play the game?
I don't think that's a good idea. Not even as a temporary thing.
It is definitely not easy to differentiate between multiboxing (one person playing two clients, legit or not) and two or more players playing one client each, and doing it by the "same IP" rule doesn't work at all.1 -
7788b14_ESO✭✭✭All bots don't multi box. IP addresses can be spoofed. Some gold sellers actually pay employees to bot, for power leveling and such things.
Games have been trying to beat bots for years. Current solutions have been game guards to monitor the computers that play the game, infiltration of bot and cheat sites, scripts that look for patterns, selling gold themselves, and other things. So far bots are still around.Edited by 7788b14_ESO on May 5, 2014 2:08PM0 -
merryblues✭✭✭Let's just stomp his idea into the ground.. The more important part is how to stop the AFK chain gangs running all over the zones killing stuff
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stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »What I mean is simply to forbit to run more than one account from the same IP. This can be done by Zeni.
That would also disable the ability for gamingstores that offer computers for people to play on to conduct their business... And as someone said, people that have 2 or more kids would have to either let one kid play, or no kids so Dad can play
As I already said: You make a white list which must be approved by Zeni. And to get on such a list you can put more obstacles like a legit adress etc.
Euh ? and what ? A valid ID for each kid living at your adress that wants to play ? Or a bussiness licence for every internet caffee ?
That wouldn't really stop botters now would it...
The statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...0 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭mailb16_ESO2 wrote: »So, basically, in each family only one person should be allowed to play the game?
I don't think that's a good idea. Not even as a temporary thing.
It is definitely not easy to differentiate between multiboxing (one person playing two clients, legit or not) and two or more players playing one client each, and doing it by the "same IP" rule doesn't work at all.
I said now the third time that you can get a white list for these cases....
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7788b14_ESO✭✭✭What would the criteria of the white list be? How would you prove the address was legit?Edited by 7788b14_ESO on May 5, 2014 2:14PM0
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concobar✭✭✭What I mean is simply to forbit to run more than one account from the same IP. This can be done by Zeni.
My wife will be pissed when i tell her she cant play ESO anymore.
I will still look across the lands from my perch at Arrius, Nerf or no I will still be the Night. I may not be the hero Ebonheart Pact wanted but I will be the hero Ebonheart pact deserves.1 -
They can... however... if they investigate logs see if abilities used from a same IP are used at exactly the same nanoseconds... if this is done over and over, that can be a clear indication that someone at said IP adress is botting and using multiboxing software... So, technicaly, they "can" check it... If 10 accounts from the same location use the same ability at the same nanosecond over and over and over again, it "is" obvious that someone is botting... no 10 humans can be that coordinated, not even 2 could do that over and over... but it would open them up to lawsuits I fear if they ban people for that...
So, they "could" investigate their logs and catch people, but disallowing people to play from the same IP is a big no no...The statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...0 -
merryblues✭✭✭They can create an easy to spot mob that when it gets attacked a giant nerf hole opens up and swallows the entire bot chain! Then to get back in the game they have to open a ticket and explain why they afk attacked the bot magnet and fell into the nerf hole.
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