Motif farming, I'm doing it wrong

SadisticSavior

Found three motifs on Sunday. Just from looting at the bank.

I think the drop rate is just random, and some people have been unlucky. Just be persistent.

Cheatingdeath23

Mousmoula wrote: »

Beryl wrote: »

Mousmoula wrote: »

I think you are not the type of player who opens every wardrobe, chest, etc (No offence meant). If you tried to open more, you would find. For instance, I have found one motif every time I was in Coldharbour for the main quest. Every time, without an exception. I'm level 43 and already have all 10 basic, without ever buying one, of course.

Opening every single chest/dresser/urn what can be opened is not a guarantee for finding a motif. I am in the same boat as the OP with a minor difference - my character is V6 now, complete all not-bugged-for-me quests in two alliances, opened every single dresser and visited every house on my way even if there was no quest/bank/reason for that. I tried relogging and visiting houses in specific towns which other players were recommending. Not a single motif ever.

It is all about luck. I don't mind being a less lucky player when it comes to loot. But I do not understand why other players believe that the less lucky ones are just doing something different or wrong. We all play the same game and face the same random number generator. It is not possible to predict the result.

Look, I'm not saying that luck is not important. It is. But, having found one motif every single time I was in Coldharbour for my main quest (with my main and my 2 alts) is not luck. It's meant by the game developers to be this way, it's not a random number generator. It would be luck, if I have found one in the 75% of the times. Finding a motif in a wardrobe in a house is luck, though. This is a random number generator and you're right. Now, my luck [or not ] is that I'm a provisioner, so I somehow got used to open every single thing I find. Which is a pain in the ass, but in the same time gives me better chances in finding a motif.

I haven't found a single motif in Cold Harbour, so... I don't know what that means. I've looked everywhere too.

SadisticSavior

Cheatingdeath23 wrote: »

Mousmoula wrote: »

Beryl wrote: »

Mousmoula wrote: »

I think you are not the type of player who opens every wardrobe, chest, etc (No offence meant). If you tried to open more, you would find. For instance, I have found one motif every time I was in Coldharbour for the main quest. Every time, without an exception. I'm level 43 and already have all 10 basic, without ever buying one, of course.

Opening every single chest/dresser/urn what can be opened is not a guarantee for finding a motif. I am in the same boat as the OP with a minor difference - my character is V6 now, complete all not-bugged-for-me quests in two alliances, opened every single dresser and visited every house on my way even if there was no quest/bank/reason for that. I tried relogging and visiting houses in specific towns which other players were recommending. Not a single motif ever.

It is all about luck. I don't mind being a less lucky player when it comes to loot. But I do not understand why other players believe that the less lucky ones are just doing something different or wrong. We all play the same game and face the same random number generator. It is not possible to predict the result.

Look, I'm not saying that luck is not important. It is. But, having found one motif every single time I was in Coldharbour for my main quest (with my main and my 2 alts) is not luck. It's meant by the game developers to be this way, it's not a random number generator. It would be luck, if I have found one in the 75% of the times. Finding a motif in a wardrobe in a house is luck, though. This is a random number generator and you're right. Now, my luck [or not ] is that I'm a provisioner, so I somehow got used to open every single thing I find. Which is a pain in the ass, but in the same time gives me better chances in finding a motif.

I haven't found a single motif in Cold Harbour, so... I don't know what that means. I've looked everywhere too.

I've found three in Coldharbor so far, including my Imperial. I agree though...it is not guaranteed. Been there lots of times and found nothing.

Pppaul

Anastasia wrote: »

I hate to see folks insinuating the op is saying something not possible. Rng is Rng in every game I've played too. It has nothing to do with 'trying harder' aside from statistical numerical deviation.

MOST of the time. There has been at least 1 case in the past where people made claims that RNG weirdness was going on, that eventually got proved to be TRUE!

It was an infamous bug in Asheron's Call known as the WI flag.

reggielee

in every inn/town/house/castle you come to take a min to run thru the whole thing and loot all cupboards, chests, desk, bureaus and end tables (if your not provisioning skip the baskets, sacks and crates).

if you do that everytime you enter the game, whether its at the bank even then you will have gotten several repeats of all the non vet motiffs in a month. (havent gotten to vet to speak on that part)

Once youve done the initial looksee then go about your game as usual. the log trick no longer works due to decreasing returns if you spam logging runs. it does reset better if you play a bit then log off then go for another look.

good luck

edit: since patch I have found 3 motiffs, down from earlier casual looking but its possible, i have never farmed motiffs but I do look consistently as i play the game

Tarukmockto

reggielee, maybe you haven't read through this whole thread. Myself and many others do the very thing you describe every single day and only get about 1 Motif a week. I don't skip anything, baskets, sacks and crates included. I have actually found a Motif in an Urn once. So I check everything, repeatedly, just in case I missed it.

If its an RNG thing, then we need the blessing of the Eight to turn it around.

reggielee

I see what you are talking about , yeah, something may be wrong. In another game there was some scandal when it was revealed that certain builds had a built in rng error which it took the devs a long time to pinpoint. not sure if that is going on here

Locke_ESO

It's not so much the standard motifs as the VR rank motifs and associated loot that is rare right now. They definitely changed something it's not just a RNG thing. Even when chests/drawers do spawn loot after a server reset 90% of it is empty or lockpicks and in general they give out much less rare loot (daedra hearts/paladium) and more common pool loot (normal racial materials). I tried for over and hour today in various locations in VR land an came up totally empty handed.

Pppaul

Yup, I've spent probably over 8 hours looting chests trying to find the veteran level motifs and haven't seen any. I've tried both approaches... farming via the old relog technique and jumping from town to town sweeping the chests. Neither has worked.

My wife got very lucky and landed a Barbarian motif from the Daggerfall bank shortly after hitting VR1.

Cheatingdeath23

I logged out in a house last night, logged in today and got my first motif in two weeks.

Only the Bretons, but I'll take it!

Iceclad

Haven't found a single rare motif so far. And I did go out of my way opening everything I found within VR levels 1-5 in hope of finding one. At the start of the game I got all basic motifs quickly and have sold many. But after those patches I haven't found anything...
Really hope to find one rare motif. But have sent my hopes down the drain already.

lynzriches

I'm in VR level 3 now and haven't found a single motif (nor any blue or purple recipes, but that's another story for another thread I suppose!). I had already found all of the "basic" ones long before reaching vet level but still searching for the vet level motifs. I loot everything. I think I just have bad die rolls. Or something like that.

esoone

Seen 1 motif and was just in early acces.

Pppaul

If you are reading this and thinking about the basic motifs, don't. When I switch over and play my lowbie alts I get basic motifs without trying. The problem here is the veteran motifs.

SadisticSavior

Found another one today in the bank...The Bretons. I almost feel guilty.

Gisgo

So many nice disguises why this obsession with motifs?

Gillysan

I found 2 motifs in the last 3 days. I avoid crates & barrels until I run out of food/drink then I do a run through some towns for a couple of days. I have never done the log out & in trick.

The 2 motifs are found one was from a bank alt. The other was some container in one of the mages guilds quests. I thought it was a chest but turned out to be a regular container. Only reason I clicked on it :P

spiritwindb14_ESO

I've found 2 regular motifs from 1-50, then right when I hit v1 I ran to the bank in Stonefalls and found a barbaric, no luck since then .

eNumbra

Found a primal, in a cabinet, on the first floor of the central building of Skywatch earlier today.

But I've played World of Tanks since beta, so I fully grasp the fickle nature of RNG.

Natjur

You used to log in and out it as it would 'reset' stuff so you could re-loot containers faster, but they fixed that.

But there are some 'instances' which are fill of containers which still reset ever time you log in and out. THIS is where you farm them now, and its why the price is starting to come down again as more people 'farm' motifs again. (Until they fix that too)

shaiten

The previous nerf that stopped the logging in and out has been reversed. Whether intentional or not I do not know. I spent 2 hours farming bank in Alduron--(Spelling) and came up with 2 Daedric and 1 Ancient Elf Motif .. not to mention about 45 Daedra Hearts and Pallidium.

So if you are after those two the bank in the first Vet 6 zone has the most things to open.

For Barbaric and Primal I'm not sure of the best place.

Imperial drops in the 1 - 50 zones

mcfaen

EDIT: =S

mcfaen

My favorite farming place is the Fighters Guild in Mournhold. Largest city in Deshaan. In the fighters guild and the training yard behind there is 21 lootable containers (trunks, nightstands, dressers, desks and wardrobes). I farm there once a day untill I get a motif using the relog trick. For me this is the easiest way to earn gold atm. But, when I think about it it should not be this easy to earn gold by farming. So it is kind of a dilemma. And I cant just stop farming and loose 50-75k gold every day ^^ I hope they fix this soon, no I don't, just kidding yes I do, NO!!!!

Vuron

mcfaen wrote: »

My favorite farming place is the Fighters Guild in Mournhold. Largest city in Deshaan. In the fighters guild and the training yard behind there is 21 lootable containers (trunks, nightstands, dressers, desks and wardrobes). I farm there once a day untill I get a motif using the relog trick. For me this is the easiest way to earn gold atm. But, when I think about it it should not be this easy to earn gold by farming. So it is kind of a dilemma. And I cant just stop farming and loose 50-75k gold every day ^^ I hope they fix this soon, no I don't, just kidding yes I do, NO!!!!

The prices of motifs are starting to drop because of this. I found 9 (6 daedric and 3 ancient elf) during my last 3 days. I've just been offering them up for 25k as soon as I find them and have taken as little as 17k for one. I will probably start giving them away soon. I haven't been using the relog trick as I do one area, wayshrine to another zone and do a 2nd area. I'm not purposely farming for motifs... I'm really looking for a Purple provisioning recipe and I'm to the point where I'm disappointed when I find a motif.

Rammi

Since hitting VR ranks i have not received a single Motif. I check every dresser/nightstand/desk/wardrobe/trunk i find easily 200/300 and not one motif. Ever since they nerferd it i have not got one. I did get some before the nerf but ever since the nerf nothing!

Pallmor

I've only been playing for a couple of weeks and I found my first one a few days ago. I think it was in a desk.

Alephen

to add my numbers: for the barbaric/primal i seem delete about a stack of lockpicks per motif found.

measuring in weeks or levels seems uninformative since the number of eligible containers is what matters, which is only moderately correlated to containers levels and slightly correlated to real life time. (i open way more containers in an hour of farming than i do in an hour of playing.)

mcfaen

Alephen wrote: »

to add my numbers: for the barbaric/primal i seem delete about a stack of lockpicks per motif found.

That is about the same as I get ^^

Moonchilde

I am running out of bag space for all the racial motifs I've found, but have not found one rare motif yet. Farming for those in Cold Harbor, where I heard they drop, but none so far in the last week of steady farming.

huntgod_ESO

They drop in VR zones...you are doing it wrong.