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Mobs way too underpowered!

FegefeueR
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Thanks to Recount Addon, we can see all the incoming Damage.
With 2500 Life and 1500 Armor getting hit from a normal open World Mob
on the same Level as me, for 1903 Damage is just not enough. Please add
some strength to all open World Mobs, to make sure i don't even
survive a Single Hit.

THX

btw. No am not Vamp and it wasn't Fire DMG.
Edited by FegefeueR on May 1, 2014 3:33PM
  • KerinKor
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    There's a point to this, because nothing sensible was said?
  • murklor007neb18_ESO
    What open world mob?

    Just curious, because if you say its name there will undoubtedly be someone here saying "yeah I faceroll those mobs lol". And they'd probably be correct.

    Most mobs that have heavy attacks are meant to be interrupted or avoided.
  • Jirki88
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    So... Ehr... You want a game where every single mob one-hit-kills you? Did you escape from a facility with padded walls, perchance?
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  • Hrithmus
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    Good idea. I want to spend 40 minutes searching for a healer to do anything in the game.
  • pandora_2b16_ESO
    Wait until veteran ranks ;-) 2-3 hits and you are death.
  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

    That said, I don't agree with the OP's intent--I like the tension and excitement of having the open PVE world with some seriously deadly mobs lurking about. There's too many games where you can just run around with complete disregard to mobs already since you can easily beat them or out run them. Prefer less of that, not more. Keep 'em over powered!!!
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  • Malediktus
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    Generally monsters from level 1-50 are underpowered. I have no problem soloing mobs 10 levels above me in broken gear and with random skills equipped to level them.
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  • FegefeueR
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    Wait until veteran ranks ;-) 2-3 hits and you are death.

    I am Vet 8 already, i know how *** unbalanced the Game for Melee is, ty

    btw. here is another Great example of Balancing, someone managed to Kill this Healer ?

    x4c0cq1nx87z.jpg

    It is a Singleplayer Quest or atleast no one is coming in here to Help out, i tried everything and can not get him under 60% Life - well done Zenimax...


  • zeuseason
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    Wait....ESO is too easy? At least that's what most were complaining about.....
  • Armitas
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    What is likely killing you is the mechanic of the 3mob pull. With 3 opponents you have 3x the power attacks to block while not being able to attack at the same time due to blocking. It can be difficult to burst one down when you have to keep blocking/avoiding so many simultaneous attacks.

    The way you counter this is Volcanic Rune. It will CC all 3 mobs so that you can burst each one down individually. So long as you are prepared it will make any 3 mob pull a whole lot easier.

    I really hope they do not nerf the difficulty because many people, including myself, find it refreshing and enjoyable. So lets talk about how to succeed as the game is now rather than changing the game to succeed resulting in the certain disappointment of others.
    Edited by Armitas on May 1, 2014 4:54PM
    Retired.
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  • Censorious
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    It's called sarcasm.
    'Clever' sigs get old real fast - just like this one.
  • dbennett707cub18_ESO
    This went over so many people's heads. armor cap is waaaay to low. Everyone basically has overcharged armor all the time.
  • WilliamTee
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    hmm... i really hoped i'd never reach the point in my gaming life where i got the inclination to use the phrase 'learn to play'...

    now all my innocence is lost.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Censorious wrote: »
    It's called sarcasm.
    Sarcasm and Irony don't come across in text, written text just lacks the personal magnetism for Irony and Sarcasm.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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  • dbennett707cub18_ESO
    Censorious wrote: »
    It's called sarcasm.
    Sarcasm and Irony don't come across in text, written text just lacks the personal magnetism for Irony and Sarcasm.

    It came across for me just fine. Was pretty obvious he was referring to higher VR content and the ridiculously low armor soft-cap.
  • WilliamTee
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    Really? The guy somehow manages to use the phrase 'personal magnetism' and capitalises sarcasm and irony -implying they're names?- and that's what you choose to come back with?

    How disappointing. :(
  • Chanz
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    Veteran ranks above lvl 5 are a pain...
  • Jirki88
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    One key element for both irony and sarcasm to work in text is a defined context... Which OP quite much lacks. Without context - it will not be obvious to anyone except maybe someone who already knows said context. Just a little answer to the "why?" that those who understood the alleged irony/sarcasm will ask to those who didn't. I say alleged, because I don't know that context, and since OP didn't outline it, I can't say for sure it's irony/sarcasm.
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  • Jadakin
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    Looking at your screen shot, I would ask two things. One - are you eating food?
    - Two - Did you try Sword and Board to interrupt heals? Not sure if that's viable for you or not with that specific encounter. I would also have a stamina pot handy to keep those bashes up.

    The World Boss thing - can you CC or Dark Talons it? I've found that plenty of World Bosses are still susceptible to it. I'm not able to solo World Bosses (which I think is by design for the most part), but I'm able to block/interrupt attacks. With Dragon Armor and self heal and obsidian - I haven't had too much of an issue duoing them. I have been able at times to kite using the above method on a couple of them. I'm not VR8 yet, so maybe the scaling is way off.
  • Tavore1138
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    I got the sarcasm (yay me!). But I'm British so it comes naturally ;)

    Gotta say one of the more annoying things is when you say 'this boss is kicking me' and the reply you get is 'Aha... you need to respec using precisely these 5 abilities, make sure you have taken the morphs in that direction, use this one ability that totally doesn't fit with your build, wear the green trousers of narm & the staff of xyz and stand on your head while squinting at the screen with only your right eye... then it's easy.. LTP noob!!!'
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  • tplink3r1
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    world mobs are ok to me, but they need to increase the World Boss difficulty.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on May 1, 2014 5:01PM
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  • Darkro
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    FegefeueR wrote: »
    Wait until veteran ranks ;-) 2-3 hits and you are death.

    I am Vet 8 already, i know how *** unbalanced the Game for Melee is, ty

    btw. here is another Great example of Balancing, someone managed to Kill this Healer ?

    x4c0cq1nx87z.jpg

    It is a Singleplayer Quest or atleast no one is coming in here to Help out, i tried everything and can not get him under 60% Life - well done Zenimax...


    No offense, but that's probably the easiest boss in veteran content solo. All you have to do is...interrupt her heal as she does little direct dmg.

    If you are unaware you can interrupt mobs, please right click to block and while blocking, left click ,which will interrupt casting of a NPC in front of you.

    Your welcome.
    Regards,
    Darkro

  • Aenima_pt
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    It was kinda funny, i kicked Molag Bal and his minions at 1st try felt like a boss. (Great main story ending btw for a mmorpg)... and then i go to veteran rank 1 and 3 miners own me so hard i barely moved lol.

    But im enjoying the harder dificulty so far, i just have to aproach the mobs much more carefully and not just ran Rambo style.
  • KylarZ
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    yeah its crazy. I am starting to move to sword and shield and heavy from my medium bow build. Why? Because a mage kills me in 3 hits... :disappointed:
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  • Tavore1138
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    Aenima_pt wrote: »
    It was kinda funny, i kicked Molag Bal and his minions at 1st try felt like a boss. (Great main story ending btw for a mmorpg)... and then i go to veteran rank 1 and 3 miners own me so hard i barely moved lol.

    But im enjoying the harder dificulty so far, i just have to aproach the mobs much more carefully and not just ran Rambo style.

    So true, I'd beta'd in the Dominion so I 'knew' the monsters in the first couple of areas... so as it was my VR starter I cockily laid into two Alit and woke up at a wayshrine... Norion was tough at level 8... brutal at VR... it really does make you rethink stuff... but there are times when I really do struggle as a NB to cope with some of it... a certain solo sea battle springs to mind...
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  • Jadakin
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    I got the sarcasm (yay me!). But I'm British so it comes naturally ;)

    Gotta say one of the more annoying things is when you say 'this boss is kicking me' and the reply you get is 'Aha... you need to respec using precisely these 5 abilities, make sure you have taken the morphs in that direction, use this one ability that totally doesn't fit with your build, wear the green trousers of narm & the staff of xyz and stand on your head while squinting at the screen with only your right eye... then it's easy.. LTP noob!!!'

    Well it's not that specific, but yes. That's the truth. You have to switch out some abilities in veteran content to complete certain encounters. You're right that people shouldn't be rude about it, but I think people get annoyed when others assume there's something wrong with the game when a design choice forces them to alter their preconceived idea of how things should work.

    This is not directed at the OP or anyone else specifically, but more of a general comment responding to the quote above.
    Edited by Jadakin on May 1, 2014 6:41PM
  • LonePirate
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    If people would read the last sentence above the "THX" line, then they would have recognized the original post as sarcasm. The failure to grasp that lies with the reader not with the author.
  • Tavore1138
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    Jadakin wrote: »
    I got the sarcasm (yay me!). But I'm British so it comes naturally ;)

    Gotta say one of the more annoying things is when you say 'this boss is kicking me' and the reply you get is 'Aha... you need to respec using precisely these 5 abilities, make sure you have taken the morphs in that direction, use this one ability that totally doesn't fit with your build, wear the green trousers of narm & the staff of xyz and stand on your head while squinting at the screen with only your right eye... then it's easy.. LTP noob!!!'

    Well it's not that specific, but yes. That's the truth. You have to switch out some abilities in veteran content to complete certain encounters. You're right that people shouldn't be rude about it, but I think people get annoyed when others assume there's something wrong with the game when a design choice forces them to alter their preconceived idea of how things should work.

    This is not directed at the OP or anyone else specifically, but more of a general comment responding to the quote above.

    As always it's a balance - you should never be forced to totally play in a particular way to meet a challenge, a boss that forces and otherwise viable build to respec is a badly designed boss.

    A boss that forces all builds to consider trying different skills in different ways or different combinations is a well designed boss.

    IMO this game has a few examples of each type.
    GM - Malazan
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  • FegefeueR
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    Darkro wrote: »
    FegefeueR wrote: »
    Wait until veteran ranks ;-) 2-3 hits and you are death.

    I am Vet 8 already, i know how *** unbalanced the Game for Melee is, ty

    btw. here is another Great example of Balancing, someone managed to Kill this Healer ?

    x4c0cq1nx87z.jpg

    It is a Singleplayer Quest or atleast no one is coming in here to Help out, i tried everything and can not get him under 60% Life - well done Zenimax...


    No offense, but that's probably the easiest boss in veteran content solo. All you have to do is...interrupt her heal as she does little direct dmg.

    If you are unaware you can interrupt mobs, please right click to block and while blocking, left click ,which will interrupt casting of a NPC in front of you.

    Your welcome.
    Regards,
    Darkro

    100% you play Sorcerer and burn this Boss in 3 sec. good for you...

    Ye thanks for the advice but i already know how to interrupt ...lol
    whatever, this Mob is everything, but not easy, i get 900 damage on every hit, means 3 hits - end for me, 1 time i have no stamina and can't interrupt, he is back at 100%...

    Some Guildies told me now there is a Fire Pet Helping at this fight, well, for me there never was one. For sure just one more of the endless bugs in eso.

  • AlexDougherty
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    WilliamTee wrote: »
    Really? The guy somehow manages to use the phrase 'personal magnetism' and capitalises sarcasm and irony -implying they're names?- and that's what you choose to come back with?

    How disappointing. :(
    Glad someone got the joke.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
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