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EU Server?

Harakh
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When do we get our real EU Server?

Is there any ETA when EU Server in EU are launched or must we wait half a year till it gets attention. For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.
Die Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.
  • ElliottXO
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    +1
  • sahib
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    Harakh wrote: »
    For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.

    My advice? Don't expect too much from them.
  • highrisedrifter
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    Harakh wrote: »
    For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.

    You can expect all you want but I guess you should have read the terms of service before coming on the forums to whine, no?

    GL:HF
  • Harakh
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    Some people need to learn the difference between whine and criticism. A game with such a playerbase and sub fee need to have EU Server in an EU country.
    Die Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
    Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
    Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
    Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.
  • KerinKor
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    Harakh wrote: »
    When do we get our real EU Server?

    Is there any ETA when EU Server in EU are launched or must we wait half a year till it gets attention. For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.
    We have it, it's working fine where it is, I see no lag due to internet latency, if you're seeing it call your ISP.
  • Hexagar
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    Harakh wrote: »
    When do we get our real EU Server?

    Is there any ETA when EU Server in EU are launched or must we wait half a year till it gets attention. For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.
    We have it, it's working fine where it is, I see no lag due to internet latency, if you're seeing it call your ISP.
    Hey sherlock I can play every online game with a ping of <50 but im sure ESO is playing above 250. So its not our ISP. its only logical to have more latency playing on a server oversea.
  • Doowie
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    There is unfortunately latency from time to time and some experience far more than others. Personally I only see it at peak times in PvP and for the fanbois, no this is not my ISP as this is experienced by others PvP as well (at that time).

    Anywho, I really don't see Zenimax moving the server from Texas to Europe anytime soon.
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    [Server]: EU Megaserver / [Faction]: Ebonheart Pact
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  • Sinoby
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    Harakh wrote: »
    When do we get our real EU Server?

    Is there any ETA when EU Server in EU are launched or must we wait half a year till it gets attention. For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.
    We have it, it's working fine where it is, I see no lag due to internet latency, if you're seeing it call your ISP.

    Ir you just may want to check your reflexes.
    Right after server restart the game is ok-ish, other then delay on activating abilities and moving outside of red AoE rings right before the AoE goes off still to be hit by AoE. These are the things caused mostly by the latency.
    After several days since server restart things start to get really bad (and I am not talking only from my own expirience), like mobs taking zero damage from some attacks just to die a second or too after, huge delay in abilities activation, mount speed etc. These issues are most likely caused by some bugs on the server because server restart fixes them.
    But anyway, telling someone that issue is not existent because you don't see it is pretty stupid. And calling ISP will solve pretty much nothing, because routing to the server from my country goes through half of the world. Issue may be on any of the hops, and to reduce it the most logical thing will be to move the server to EU.
  • darkkterror_ESO
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    I hear it gets delayed one day every time someone makes a thread asking this question. At this point I think we'll see the EU server moved sometime in the year 2016.
  • dwaightb16_ESO
    dont have Any problems either.
  • Elirienne
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    Am I the only one around here who does not care a single bit about where the server is located, as long as I can log in and lose myself in the wonderful world of the game?
  • dwaightb16_ESO
    People need better connections seems.
  • Blackwolfe5
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    I don't care where the server is either, as long as the lag is not terrible half the time. So...

    The move to EU cannot come soon enough!
  • Milktray
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    I generally use US servers and not had a problem, now using our EU server fine where it is.
    ZoS please understand everyone thinks and pronounces things differently, so please add to your 'rules' that things get removed if the Mod doesn't actually quite understand phrasing
  • Nyxiath
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    It does not matter one bit what kind of a connection you have when the server is literally on the opposite side of the planet, with dozens of hops in between. It's incomprehensible that something advertized as an EU server is actually hosted 10,000 kilometres away. I dont even want to know how much of it is some old crappy copper wire dug into a desert.

    EDIT: It's also rather bizarre to expect people to just lose themselves in the wonderful world of the game when 150-200ms latencies due to the EU server actually being in some jungle in Texas both breaks immersion and makes the RvRvR content in Cyrodiil difficult to enjoy
    Edited by Nyxiath on April 29, 2014 7:50AM
  • tuntuns
    tuntuns
    Yesterday was like 10 sec delay on AvA
  • ShadowEve
    ShadowEve
    They'll never move it, it was all a lie!
  • SilverWF
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    European server - WHEN?
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • Elirienne
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    I never experienced latency or lags. I am in London on sky broadband with a 6 months old laptop (not sure if that makes a difference)
  • Anzaman
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    Hopefully soon.
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  • Harakh
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    It is not an ISP issue, cause other MMO work fine and the ISP is the biggest in germany.

    I often see the problem in PvP, cause you cannot react fast enough with dodges and blocks, somtimes i dodge and still get damage, same with blocks. This is not good in an action based combat.

    In PvE in the higher dungeons where every dodge or block can decide a fight it is also an issue.
    Die Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
    Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
    Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
    Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.
  • Darkreign
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    The servers are located 4,000 miles away from Europe, and in some places much further than that, depending on where in Europe you are.
    I used to play EQ2 on US servers from the UK and I can categorically tell you that if you intend to play in PVP, then a Euro server is a must. If you are English speaking, and both servers are on US soil, you may as well play the US server, as the language barriers don't exist as they do in zone chat on the EU servers.
    The fact of the matter is, response time is slower and at busy periods the EU servers can have a ping anywhere up to 500, which is half a second, and that half a second is all that is needed to queue more than one or two commands, resulting in lost/cancelled key commands thus completely loosing combat effectiveness.

    You may as well say that there are two N/A mega servers, The fact the you name one an EU server, and don't base it in the EU is very misleading to potential customers.

    Many times over the last few days I have harvested nodes only to have them dis-appear as if they never existed, or mobs actually drop dead on the ground in front of me without me even drawing my sword, these issue can only be fixed by introducing the server that was promised in the European theatre of operations.

    The problem you have is a simple one, every person who is queing up to buy the console version of this will be thinking, "dam, look at all the server issues, is there any point in buying it?" People, by their very nature like fairness and an even playing field, timing is half the game, if players have no control over the timing of landing blows, blocking, stunning, interrupting, then they have no feeling of playing skilfully.

    Don't leave it too long, sort the server issue out, or it will cost you repeat business.
    Edited by Darkreign on April 29, 2014 8:07AM
  • Starnes
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    Nyxiath wrote: »
    It does not matter one bit what kind of a connection you have when the server is literally on the opposite side of the planet, with dozens of hops in between. It's incomprehensible that something advertized as an EU server is actually hosted 10,000 kilometres away. I dont even want to know how much of it is some old crappy copper wire dug into a desert.

    EDIT: It's also rather bizarre to expect people to just lose themselves in the wonderful world of the game when 150-200ms latencies due to the EU server actually being in some jungle in Texas both breaks immersion and makes the RvRvR content in Cyrodiil difficult to enjoy

    I know right? It amazes me that there are so many sycophants encouraging ZOS to continue to provide us with sub-par service.
  • phOnyUK
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    Harakh wrote: »
    For a sub fee game i as customer expect such fundamental features.

    You can expect all you want but I guess you should have read the terms of service before coming on the forums to whine, no?

    GL:HF

    Maybe you should of read the fact they promised a server based in europe, namely germany before the game launched. no?

  • phOnyUK
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    People need better connections seems.

    Im on 40mbit fibre and have 3 second lag, I know my connection is the fastest in the world but id like to think it fast enough to play an MMO.
  • Mendoze
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    Normal questing and stuff works just fine for me, but Cyrodiil is where the problems start to show. I too hope they'll move the servers to Europe as soon as possible.
  • Harakh
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    What i cannot understand is how they refuse to communicate with us about it.

    For me it is important to know cause i dont want to wait long for a EU Server in EU.
    Die Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
    Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
    Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
    Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.
  • Thete
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    People need better connections seems.

    Well if you can put me in contact with a FTL internet provider, that would be great. I think CERN would also be very interested.
  • Frail_Old_Man
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    I'd love to see EU servers be IN EU, not US.
    There is no reason to defend EU servers being in US, none.
    Sanguine's testers, the best testers.
    Alas we are no longer labeled as such.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Thete wrote: »
    Well if you can put me in contact with a FTL internet provider, that would be great. I think CERN would also be very interested.
    Presumably you mean you have Fibre-Optics broadband, while the signals travel down the fibreoptic cables as the spead of light (slightly slower actually because they need to be boosted every so often) they can't travel across the Atlantic at that speed, because that cables across the Atlantic aren't fibreoptic but an older style of cable. Plus the signal needs to be converted at either end, all in all, making a difference between it and lightspeed.

    Plus Cern is already looking into Faster than Light Particles (they did report particles in one experiment that were apparently going backwards in time).
    Edited by AlexDougherty on April 29, 2014 9:15PM
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