Everything has been looted (trunks, crates etc..)

Valn

It's almost impossible for me to level my provisioning and find new ingredients when everything is open/already been looted by everyone.

Elsonso

Where are you? What server?

seanolan

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Valn

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

ah well, guess im having really bad luck

theyancey

Provisioning supplies are EVERYWHERE! It took me just 10 days to level mine to 50.

jaytin44

I have seen this a lot lately too, even when I have just logged in and not played overnight, almost every building I have gone into has literally nothing but 'open' containers, do they take longer to 'close' now?

thesawolfb14_ESO

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

What @seanolan said.. containers (barrels, crates, bookcases, cabinets, etc.) are instanced to player, whereas chests. nodes and heavy sacks are open to all.

If there is an indoor area with containers, try relogging there and seeing if any respawn closed. If not, then it's an intentional thing for that area. Try it in a populated town and everything should randomly respawn with stuff in it (not ALL of them, some will be randomly already open).

Good luck.

Glog

Yup im finding that problem in Daggerfall/Glenumbra/Stormhaven where every crate, barrel, nightstand, wardrobe anything you should be able to click on is greyed out and empty.

Im thinking maybe its the teleporting bots? I see them everywhere in Daggerfall.

p.s EU server.

Censorious

Seriously, there's so much provisioning lying about I stopped bothering with it after lvl3!
I'll go back when I really feel I need to level cooking. (There's also a lot of food lying around to be eaten)

Rage_Frost

go to every major city in each zone and you can level up provisioning in 4 hours to 50 its easy maybe too easy compared to the others

Phlora

I'm experiencing this too. I've made a bunch of new characters today over on Daggerfall and there was not a single lootable chest, nightstand, wardrobe or trunk in any of the buildings, including the castle, for any of the characters I made.
(not including sacks, barrels and crates)
Nothing respawns no matter how many times I relogged although the contents of bookcases changed.

AlexDougherty

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Um, I don't think they are, especially when I have tried to loot a barrel and had the contents disappear before my eyes.

Pretty sure the chest, barrels, sacks, and wardrobes are accessable to all players there (including some in apparently another instance), and sometimes the contents just haven't respawned.

caryhammub17_ESO

Try making a new character and just ransacking through the tutorial, loot all chests, barrels, bags, urns, whatever isn't nailed shut. then, finish the tutorial, go to the bank, looting the stuff in town along the way, deposit, log delete, repeat, took 8 runs to get enough mats to hit 50.

Grapes, wheat, broth, drippings, aged meat, pork. anything else is superfluous for general leveling. 500 inspiration per combine, and I dunno total exp to hit 50, but it was close to 8 runs through tutorial. ( AD side )

nudel

@AlexDougherty‌ Nope. All furniture is instanced to the player, including sacks, crates, and barrels. No player can steal these drops from you. Rather everyone can open those containers and get different things and they'll still have loot for others. As others have already said, only crafting nodes, treasure chests, and heavy sacks are not instanced.

If the contents of a barrel disappear before your eyes, you probably have auto-loot turned on. It applies to everything in the game, not just mob drops. Check your inventory. Those items are likely there.

As for all the containers appearing open and empty, I do believe there is some sort of condition in the rng to prevent overfarming. This I cannot confirm as I haven't tested it extensively. However, it does seem that if you heavily farm the containers in a given area, you will get more and more empty spawns mixed in. Take it as incentive to farm somewhere else.

tordr86b16_ESO

theyancey wrote: »

Provisioning supplies are EVERYWHERE! It took me just 10 days to level mine to 50.

It took me 1.5 hour to level from 1 to 50... Provisioning is a joke, they obviously just slapped it together.

Tristis Oris

last few days i see the same picture. All containers are open, even at new locations where I am for the first time.
My skill of cooking was lvl 20 when I was 10. Now i'm 36, but can't skill up more than 25 cooking because I do not have the right food and recipes. About 30 kinds of different foods from which there is absolutely nothing to cook.

Valn

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

Provisioning supplies are EVERYWHERE! It took me just 10 days to level mine to 50.

It took me 1.5 hour to level from 1 to 50... Provisioning is a joke, they obviously just slapped it together.

really? how did you get the recipies so quickly?

seanolan

AlexDougherty wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Um, I don't think they are, especially when I have tried to loot a barrel and had the contents disappear before my eyes.

Pretty sure the chest, barrels, sacks, and wardrobes are accessable to all players there (including some in apparently another instance), and sometimes the contents just haven't respawned.

You are wrong. Sorry, but that's just fact. You are wrong.

reggielee

I dont see how people are reaching 50 provisioning in a couple hours (unless they are using the logging cheat to reset) I cook all mats I get and I loot everywhere. You still need to have the higher recipes and lvls in order to get that good exp. My own exp is staying in starter zones looting will only get you starter recipes and mats. sure you can make 200 lvl 1 recipes and get two bars of exp for it, or you can go to higher zones and work those high exp recipes in a much shorter time.

that has been my exp, im at 47 now but its taken me 2 weeks. for the original poster, try going to a new area with rich looting, like mines, small towns etc. I have more luck with finding motiffs and good recipes and full chests there

Mailmann

Valn wrote: »

really? how did you get the recipies so quickly?

You can level Provisioning up from 1 to 50 with only low level recipes and they are easily found while gathering provisioning materials. You should have it maxed out by the time your character reaches level 20 if you are actively looking for materials. I had it maxed out by level 13, but I could have easily had it maxed before level 10. However, I did have occasions where nearly every container was open, so it is something that ZOS needs to look into.

JadeDarkstep

seanolan wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Um, I don't think they are, especially when I have tried to loot a barrel and had the contents disappear before my eyes.

Pretty sure the chest, barrels, sacks, and wardrobes are accessable to all players there (including some in apparently another instance), and sometimes the contents just haven't respawned.

You are wrong. Sorry, but that's just fact. You are wrong.

According to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkWFyNoMl-E

I entered the house and EVERYTHING was empty! Relogged - still empty!

seanolan

Has nothing to do with someone taking the stuff. It may be a bug. But each character's interior containers are instanced. You can take pretty videos all you want, but if it weren't instanced, motif farmers would not be able to farm...they farm by logging in and out. So you are still wrong.

KerinKor

JadeDarkstep wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Um, I don't think they are, especially when I have tried to loot a barrel and had the contents disappear before my eyes.

Pretty sure the chest, barrels, sacks, and wardrobes are accessable to all players there (including some in apparently another instance), and sometimes the contents just haven't respawned.

You are wrong. Sorry, but that's just fact. You are wrong.

I entered the house and EVERYTHING was empty! Relogged - still empty!

I've seen that a few times recently. While ZOS haven't said it, I believe they changed it last Friday because before that I'd never seen this situation at all.

JadeDarkstep

Well, anyway, found another topic about it:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/80916/character-bug-all-crates-cabins-etc-permanently-empty

And I know you should be able to loot the very same house in different instances. And perhaps house containers reset as well if house is empty of players.

Muggy

All saying you can simply log and rerun areas are just out of date (or if it's a bug, uneffected)...the way ZOS deals with containers has been amended (by design or as a bug) since launch. In early access players could sit a character in one location, loot all furnishings, log out, log in, repeat.

wardrobes/dressers/nightstands etc. now refresh less often and not just on a relog. It appears a more complex algorithm is being used that decides to refresh containers based on a much wider set of variables to prevent farming. Containers are still instanced (if you play with a friend this is obvious).

To test, yesterday I created and logged into a new character, cleared lootables in Daggerfall. logged out, logged in, lootables had not reset. Wayshrine my main character to Daggerfall found three lootable items in the whole city. Relogged to newbie alt and found no lootable items. Waited 24 hours real time logged in alt, lootable items had still not reset. After an hour or two playing main character in Cyrodil returned to Daggerfall and found several containers had reset but it was not close to the initial level of containers on the 1st run.

It certainly seems the reset algorithm works account wide but is applied differently to each character, is no longer based on a simple log out and is staggering the reset of containers over time.

In all honesty, there are still so many locations to loot, cities, dungeons, ships etc. that you don't really need to farm. The only exception is when trying to find motifs early in the game, before you can afford to buy them.

EDIT: @nudel points out correctly this was changed pre launch and effected higher level players farming lower level zones. I tried using a second alt character (level 3) in the same location (Auridon, VH Bank) and this did indeed result in a larger percentage of containers being reset.

EDIT2: I just tested this again...this time just in Daggerfall Castle. The containers will not reset regardless of character level/logging/etc. the containers were empty when I arrived with a new character and have stayed that way, all of them, despite 7 or 8 character switches using 2 level 3 characters.
This is seeming more and more like a bug with an unpredictable nature.

I would love to know if othrs can 'farm' daggerfall castle with two low level alts?

nudel

@Muggy‌ This was not changed since early access. This occurred in PTS long before launch. It typically hit higher level players who decided to start leveling provisioning later on and found few ingredients in lower level zones. It may have been a bug or it may have been a design to prevent farming in lower lvl zones. Either way, it's being changed with the Craglorn patch.

Many crates, barrels, etc. will now yield Provisioning materials, regardless of your level.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/87867/patch-notes-v-1-1-inc-craglorn-from-pts

Kyosji

Not many actually dealing with provisioning just for the fact there are so many ingredients just lying around. Friend stopped all together because he was tired of his bank being filled with crafting ingredients. Can't really blame him, as you can find any level cooking mat any time you really want. The only ones I even bother keeping when I find are tomatoes and oats, as they are extremely rare and needed for high end recipes.

Bollerlotte

i can confirm that every container -food or trunks are emptied.
even reloggen dont fill them up anymoore.
vet10 Reaper's March.

Wizzo91

seanolan wrote: »

It is IMPOSSIBLE for provisioning items to be "looted by everyone". All containers that spawn those items are instanced to the player, and not lootable by anyone other than yourself. If they are "open", they were spawned that way, not looted by another player.

Not true, they are open to everyone. A lot of houses in VR zones are looted, when I enter them the first time.

ShintaiDK

Confirming too that everything is looted everywhere.

JadeDarkstep

I haven't managed to find much fully lootable houses if any at all in my veteran zones... well, I only recall one tiny house, during one quest. Even if I enter new zones for the first time, new houses, then everything is already empty.

So, I've been running around last hour or two and I ported back to Auridon, my faction zone, and I was able to find few filled wardrobes, which hardly ever happened to me in any veteran zone.
And when I went back to Windhelm, then everything was empty again.