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About the fog....
Jade1986
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I have a question about the fog that is CONSTANTLY present in this game. Can we turn it off? I mean, it gets to like 200 meters and then becomes foggy no matter where I go, I can never take a proper screenshot of the tree in elden root because of this, or screen shots of long distance vistas in general. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I had no idea where to post this since there is no gen. discussion forum.
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Nephelai✭Sounds like you have your view distance limited in the video settings. Be mindful it taxes weak PC's the further out you set it.
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Brakkar✭✭✭Get stronger gpu and you won't be linited in that way.
I can make a screenshot of the said tree, I have gtx 780/4770k/8gb of fast ram.Edited by Brakkar on April 27, 2014 12:48AM0 -
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✭✭✭Errrr. I have everything maxed out, ultra. Running GTX 690 4GB (which still has a higher performance rating than the 780s), I7-3820 3.8ghz, 32 gigs of fast ram. Even with view distance and draw distance and everything set to absolute max, there is still fog. let me post a picture example.Edited by Jade1986 on April 27, 2014 1:08AM0 -
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✭✭✭Observe the further you get there is still fog, no matter how high I set the settings.0 -
AlliN✭✭✭Turn off antialiasing - it makes things in distance hazy. Turn off Depth of Field.
Maxing settings without thinking about it, won't give you sharp picture nowdays, becasue of all excessive post processing filters and idiotic depth effects that blur out things.
After reviewing your screenshot - part of the issue is DoF, and part is, that's how the game looks. ES games always had this fog trick to lower processing consumption. Also, some parts of the day have mroe of the fog effect than others - especially mornings and evenings.Edited by AlliN on April 27, 2014 1:19AM0 -
Lord_Tonjin✭✭Do you have the option in the the setting that gets rid of the blur on distance objects turn on or off? Not sure if this will help you or not."In fire there is the spark of chaos and destruction, the seed of life. In ice there is perfect tranquility, perfect order, and the silence of death."0 -
Brakkar✭✭✭Well then apparently my 780 is stronger than your 690, because I don't have those problems. Memory have nothing to do with it, as game client is 32-bit and can't use more than 4gb anyway. There must be some other explanation.
I think I have seen an addon which upgrades some graphics in game, i.e. makes it sharper and removes the fog, however I did not try it and no idea of the impact on performance.0 -
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Do some quick research, the 690 4gb out performs the 780, this also depends on which version of the 780 you have.Well then apparently my 780 is stronger than your 690, because I don't have those problems. Memory have nothing to do with it, as game client is 32-bit and can't use more than 4gb anyway. There must be some other explanation.
I think I have seen an addon which upgrades some graphics in game, i.e. makes it sharper and removes the fog, however I did not try it and no idea of the impact on performance.
http://img.techpowerup.org/131111/a11c7ee9a85e8f3b9cd1612777684609cb5.jpg
This argument is pointless anyway because this has nothing to do with the problem. Maxed is maxed. I am simply wondering if there is a way to get rid of the haziness.
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hmmmmm, I turned that depth of field off and it made the things in the fog sharper, lol. But antialiasing did nothing, just made things look blockier when I turned it off. But here is the diff between depth of field on and off. Top is off bottom is on.
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AlliN✭✭✭Well, at least half of the solution worked. Other than that, it's how the engine works - it would be nice to have an option to reduce volumetric effects and fog saturation, but well, engine changes are not the ones I'm holding my breath to see.Edited by AlliN on April 27, 2014 1:40AM0
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Do some quick research, the 690 4gb out performs the 780, this also depends on which version of the 780 you have.Well then apparently my 780 is stronger than your 690, because I don't have those problems. Memory have nothing to do with it, as game client is 32-bit and can't use more than 4gb anyway. There must be some other explanation.
I think I have seen an addon which upgrades some graphics in game, i.e. makes it sharper and removes the fog, however I did not try it and no idea of the impact on performance.
http://img.techpowerup.org/131111/a11c7ee9a85e8f3b9cd1612777684609cb5.jpg
This argument is pointless anyway because this has nothing to do with the problem. Maxed is maxed. I am simply wondering if there is a way to get rid of the haziness.
Actually, the 690 does not outperform the 780 in every way. Keep in mind that the 690 is a dual-GPU card (2 680's). It is 2 2GB cards on one board, so it functions as a 2GB card. The 780 has 3GB. Now, in games that work well with SLI, it can outperform the 780 up until you hit that 2GB wall. However, ESO is definitely not a game that works well with SLI at this phase. The 780 will definitely outperform the 690 in ESO, until game and driver changes make it work better with SLI.2 -
AlliN✭✭✭And you do realise your fallical measurement contest is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand, that was already sorted?1
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ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭There is guy on tamriel foundry who coded a launcher that removes the fog. I've tested it myself.
The tamriel forum was dead just now but I will post it tomorrow here.0 -
Brakkar✭✭✭Yeah, my bad, for some reason I had an impression that you had a 4k screen and that was another topic I read a while earlier. And lowering aa works for 4k resolutions.
I also had the same thing in mind about that launcher thingy, although I am sceptical as some reported having problems with it.0 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭Here you go: the fog fix. Don't ask me if it's legal or not.
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✭✭✭Hm, I will wait until there is some sort of confirmation about the legality of it =P. Looks good so far though. In some places the fog actually fits...but in some places like INSIDE its like, why?!
Neither will out perform either because both of them are overkill for this game and the game is more CPU intensive anyhow. But since you had to bring this up. They both have ups an downs, but consider this.
Do some quick research, the 690 4gb out performs the 780, this also depends on which version of the 780 you have.Well then apparently my 780 is stronger than your 690, because I don't have those problems. Memory have nothing to do with it, as game client is 32-bit and can't use more than 4gb anyway. There must be some other explanation.
I think I have seen an addon which upgrades some graphics in game, i.e. makes it sharper and removes the fog, however I did not try it and no idea of the impact on performance.
http://img.techpowerup.org/131111/a11c7ee9a85e8f3b9cd1612777684609cb5.jpg
This argument is pointless anyway because this has nothing to do with the problem. Maxed is maxed. I am simply wondering if there is a way to get rid of the haziness.
Actually, the 690 does not outperform the 780 in every way. Keep in mind that the 690 is a dual-GPU card (2 680's). It is 2 2GB cards on one board, so it functions as a 2GB card. The 780 has 3GB. Now, in games that work well with SLI, it can outperform the 780 up until you hit that 2GB wall. However, ESO is definitely not a game that works well with SLI at this phase. The 780 will definitely outperform the 690 in ESO, until game and driver changes make it work better with SLI.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780-vs-GeForce-GTX-690
But that is completely off top, so please refrain from derailing the thread.Edited by Jade1986 on April 27, 2014 3:38PM1 -
+1 for a slider to set the distance aerial perspective aka the fog starts to appear.0 -
Paske✭✭✭✭The launcher is legit, since it doenst touch your game settings. Just settings.txt + some filters.
Its was debated in first days of ESO0 -
I know, but it removes fog completely, it looks unrealistic, a slider would be a better option, just pushing it back, thus we can have panoramic landscape views, but still have aerial perspective which looks much more natural, instead of this 100m fog bubble.0
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Yayap7✭I know it won't eliminate it, but what I think will have an overall better visual effect is SweetFX. I am using the SMAA with SweetFX and it's pretty good. Also the fog on't be so noticeable. I think it's also just how the image is rendered that is the problem because there is always a green-like haze to the whole image and I personally don't like it at all. SweetFX(at least the settings I am using) helps that quite a bit along with enhancing the colors and darker areas.
But yeah I agree with the OP, the fog is quite annoying. The nice thing is that Paul Sage did say that they are working on bringing up the render/draw distance. They will also hopefully at least tweak the fog/haze so that it is not so blatant..
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I know it won't eliminate it, but what I think will have an overall better visual effect is SweetFX. I am using the SMAA with SweetFX and it's pretty good. Also the fog on't be so noticeable. I think it's also just how the image is rendered that is the problem because there is always a green-like haze to the whole image and I personally don't like it at all. SweetFX(at least the settings I am using) helps that quite a bit along with enhancing the colors and darker areas.
But yeah I agree with the OP, the fog is quite annoying. The nice thing is that Paul Sage did say that they are working on bringing up the render/draw distance. They will also hopefully at least tweak the fog/haze so that it is not so blatant..
Well, My GPU is not powerful enough to do SMAA, but since I am playing on a laptop (I know...I know...
), but I have a super clear screen with high PPI which works fine with minimal AntiAliasing, 8x CSAA and you cannot notice any edges. I am happy for you though, SMAA is cool .
As for the colors, instead of using SweetFX, I decrease Brightness, increase Contrast and Digital Vibrance from Nvidia Control Panel. I have also used SweetFX in the past, this achieves %90 the same results, you can hardly differ. Also, They have fixed that to some degree in patch 1.3.3
BTW, what you have said about Paul Sage is maybe already coming true, I checked the PTS patch notes for patch 1.4.0 which was rolled out today and found this:
"Added the following graphics settings:
Particle Systems
Particle Distance
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Particle Distance??)
Well, they have introduced everything ESO Launcher and SweetFX was doing for eso, FOV (1.2.0), Color Correction (1.3.3), except the damn fog:) Fingers crossed.
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