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The whole game system is useless or that I 'm getting to play without him ?
Based on in MY STYLE of play and I have played so far.
I have a dragonnigth at lvl 23 . But how far things were a bit repetitive , I believe it to be so until level 50 .
I'm still not playing PVP .
All I needed was through NPCs and quests .
I did not need to buy anything.
1 - BLACKSMITHING
It's a skill that I have more evolved . And it is useless.
All items that can build are worse than those that can through the NPCs in quests .
I used Taits , enchants , etc and the NPCs always give some better equipment.
Conclusion : never use the items I build because the other NPCs always give me much better .
2 - WOODWORKING
It's exactly the same case as the blacksmithing . Why should I invest in woodworking are all items that the NPCs or quests give me better?
3 - PROVISIONING
I learned dozens of recipes . But there's always some ingredient missing .
You can not save all the ingredients . There is not enough space.
The work it takes to collect all material, save for later , when you have a recipe to build this item for me , not worth it .
4 - ENCHANTING
How many total enchants can apply an item ?
I was told that some devices allow up to 2 .
Is that right?
5 - CLOTHIER
I believe it is more useful to mages or light / medium equipment .
I do not use them .
6 - ALCHEMY
This I use to make potions , because the price of potions on the market is pathetic.
I doubt that most buy something in the market .
7 - MARKET
Until now , any item I sell , used or not , is worth almost the same as a potion .
You can have a TOP equipment , much better than those sold .
And the market does not pay you anything for it.
I do not use the market for anything too, just to sell a few things that are taking up too much space.
8 - GENERAL ECONOMY
I'm just using gold for 3 things .
- Train the horses
- Repair equipment
- Buy more bank space and bag .
'm Playing , evolving and getting items TOPs almost without using any game system .
If I were rich in game, I would not have where to spend the money .
Everything that is sold is worse than what the NPCs are giving .
I have TOPs items , I can not use because they are beyond my level .
So what I'm going to use gold ?
Do you understand ?
The way I'm playing , I'm able to do everything without problems and crafting and market system is just to exist .
The economy is absurd and crafting does not give any advantage from what I played so far.
You agree that the systems are not integrated and are somewhat useless , or that I 'm getting to play well and I'm having luck with the NPCs ?
Edited by HardyHero on April 21, 2014 8:25PM I have a dragonnigth at lvl 23 . But how far things were a bit repetitive , I believe it to be so until level 50 .
I'm still not playing PVP .
All I needed was through NPCs and quests .
I did not need to buy anything.
1 - BLACKSMITHING
It's a skill that I have more evolved . And it is useless.
All items that can build are worse than those that can through the NPCs in quests .
I used Taits , enchants , etc and the NPCs always give some better equipment.
Conclusion : never use the items I build because the other NPCs always give me much better .
2 - WOODWORKING
It's exactly the same case as the blacksmithing . Why should I invest in woodworking are all items that the NPCs or quests give me better?
3 - PROVISIONING
I learned dozens of recipes . But there's always some ingredient missing .
You can not save all the ingredients . There is not enough space.
The work it takes to collect all material, save for later , when you have a recipe to build this item for me , not worth it .
4 - ENCHANTING
How many total enchants can apply an item ?
I was told that some devices allow up to 2 .
Is that right?
5 - CLOTHIER
I believe it is more useful to mages or light / medium equipment .
I do not use them .
6 - ALCHEMY
This I use to make potions , because the price of potions on the market is pathetic.
I doubt that most buy something in the market .
7 - MARKET
Until now , any item I sell , used or not , is worth almost the same as a potion .
You can have a TOP equipment , much better than those sold .
And the market does not pay you anything for it.
I do not use the market for anything too, just to sell a few things that are taking up too much space.
8 - GENERAL ECONOMY
I'm just using gold for 3 things .
- Train the horses
- Repair equipment
- Buy more bank space and bag .
'm Playing , evolving and getting items TOPs almost without using any game system .
If I were rich in game, I would not have where to spend the money .
Everything that is sold is worse than what the NPCs are giving .
I have TOPs items , I can not use because they are beyond my level .
So what I'm going to use gold ?
Do you understand ?
The way I'm playing , I'm able to do everything without problems and crafting and market system is just to exist .
The economy is absurd and crafting does not give any advantage from what I played so far.
You agree that the systems are not integrated and are somewhat useless , or that I 'm getting to play well and I'm having luck with the NPCs ?
Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.
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The only thing that is absurd is your post tbh. You are level 23 and claim that crafting economy etc makes no difference in this game hit endlevel then come back with your feedback sheesh.By Hircine's hand i mark thee!0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Do I understand?
No. Not even a little. Maybe you'd be better served in one of the foreign-language forums?----
Murray?2 -
montgomery.luke07b16_ESO wrote: »The only thing that is absurd is your post tbh. You are level 23 and claim that crafting economy etc makes no difference in this game hit endlevel then come back with your feedback sheesh.
Realy... I need to end the game to system make sense?
You mean, to who is playing and has no maximum level, the game system does not have to make sense?Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Huh?
Crafted items are at least as good and in most cases better than what you get from questing alone. Also, quest rewards/drops can be upgraded via crafting just like items you crafted yourself.
Crafted food/drinks are vastly superior when you have blue/purple recipes. Same goes for potions.1 -
Huh?
Crafted items are at least as good and in most cases better than what you get from questing alone. Also, quest rewards/drops can be upgraded via crafting just like items you crafted yourself.
Crafted food/drinks are vastly superior when you have blue/purple recipes. Same goes for potions.
That's exactly what I think or imagine.
But ... so far the opposite has happened to me.
All items we got with the drops are much better than the items I made.
As much as I evolve, for example, blacksmithing, NPCs drop better items yet.
So I think "for what I need the blacksmithing?"
I thought I would use blacksmithing to build equipment that I would use in fights. But I build and NPCs drop better equipment.Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Coggage✭✭✭✭Huh?
Crafted items are at least as good and in most cases better than what you get from questing alone. Also, quest rewards/drops can be upgraded via crafting just like items you crafted yourself.
Crafted food/drinks are vastly superior when you have blue/purple recipes. Same goes for potions.
I outlevel my gear so often that it just isn't worth my time gathering resources and making stuff when after every dungeon and quest I emerge with lots of gear/weapons I can use to replace what I'm currently wearing.0 -
S1D3FX✭✭Based on in MY STYLE of play and I have played so far.
I have a dragonnigth at lvl 23 . But how far things were a bit repetitive , I believe it to be so until level 50 .
I'm still not playing PVP .
All I needed was through NPCs and quests .
I did not need to buy anything.
1 - BLACKSMITHING
It's a skill that I have more evolved . And it is useless.
All items that can build are worse than those that can through the NPCs in quests .
I used Taits , enchants , etc and the NPCs always give some better equipment.
Conclusion : never use the items I build because the other NPCs always give me much better .
2 - WOODWORKING
It's exactly the same case as the blacksmithing . Why should I invest in woodworking are all items that the NPCs or quests give me better?
3 - PROVISIONING
I learned dozens of recipes . But there's always some ingredient missing .
You can not save all the ingredients . There is not enough space.
The work it takes to collect all material, save for later , when you have a recipe to build this item for me , not worth it .
4 - ENCHANTING
How many total enchants can apply an item ?
I was told that some devices allow up to 2 .
Is that right?
5 - CLOTHIER
I believe it is more useful to mages or light / medium equipment .
I do not use them .
6 - ALCHEMY
This I use to make potions , because the price of potions on the market is pathetic.
I doubt that most buy something in the market .
7 - MARKET
Until now , any item I sell , used or not , is worth almost the same as a potion .
You can have a TOP equipment , much better than those sold .
And the market does not pay you anything for it.
I do not use the market for anything too, just to sell a few things that are taking up too much space.
8 - GENERAL ECONOMY
I'm just using gold for 3 things .
- Train the horses
- Repair equipment
- Buy more bank space and bag .
'm Playing , evolving and getting items TOPs almost without using any game system .
If I were rich in game, I would not have where to spend the money .
Everything that is sold is worse than what the NPCs are giving .
I have TOPs items , I can not use because they are beyond my level .
So what I'm going to use gold ?
Do you understand ?
The way I'm playing , I'm able to do everything without problems and crafting and market system is just to exist .
The economy is absurd and crafting does not give any advantage from what I played so far.
You agree that the systems are not integrated and are somewhat useless , or that I 'm getting to play well and I'm having luck with the NPCs ?
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Aevric✭✭✭You must not have crafted any of the set items from the crafting stations out in the wild.
Some of the bonuses for the sets + npc enchanter vendor bought enchants are quite nice.
Not to mention that I doubt you collected full sets of armor and weapons from quests and drops every 2 levels... you can upgrade your crafted gear that often.0 -
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Huh?
Crafted items are at least as good and in most cases better than what you get from questing alone. Also, quest rewards/drops can be upgraded via crafting just like items you crafted yourself.
Crafted food/drinks are vastly superior when you have blue/purple recipes. Same goes for potions.
I outlevel my gear so often that it just isn't worth my time gathering resources and making stuff when after every dungeon and quest I emerge with lots of gear/weapons I can use to replace what I'm currently wearing.
Exactly!
Coggage, thanks for understanding my point of view.
In this way, systems of craft are "useless".
I will not use my time and inventory space to build items that are lower than those NPCs drop.
Also I will not use the market, with absurd prices, to buy an item that will replace the other free, much better.
Are interesting, but what is the practical advantage of the market or evolve blacksmithing?
I'm not saying it does not exist, but I could not understand why until now, since you get better items from NPCs, instead of buying or building.Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Are you improving your items with tempers?
No way the quest gear should be better ... and of course you have to make new gear as you level... what do you want? Make gear at level 10 and have it last till level 50?
C'mon now, let's be realistic.1 -
You have crafted gear, but have you improved it? I have managed to make some wonderful set pieces that I wore even after I outleveled them by 4-6 levels because I kept improving them until I reached the next tier.
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the1andonlypzb14_ESO wrote: »Are you improving your items with tempers?
No way the quest gear should be better ... and of course you have to make new gear as you level... what do you want? Make gear at level 10 and have it last till level 50?
C'mon now, let's be realistic.
What happens is this:
- I build an outfit top with the best materials, with traits and enchantment
- Use it to kill a few NPCs
- Suddenly the NPCs drop a much better equipment than my (sometimes up to a level that I can not use)
And it happens all the time.
I'm stopping to make my own equipment.
So I must come to the conclusion that I'm very lucky with the NPCs.Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Catches_the_Sun✭✭✭✭✭the1andonlypzb14_ESO wrote: »Are you improving your items with tempers?
No way the quest gear should be better ... and of course you have to make new gear as you level... what do you want? Make gear at level 10 and have it last till level 50?
C'mon now, let's be realistic.
What happens is this:
- I build an outfit top with the best materials, with traits and enchantment
- Use it to kill a few NPCs
- Suddenly the NPCs drop a much better equipment than my (sometimes up to a level that I can not use)
And it happens all the time.
I'm stopping to make my own equipment.
So I must come to the conclusion that I'm very lucky with the NPCs.
I'm going to assume since the mob is dropping an item too high for you to use, and you're comparing that item to the one you're already wearing, you're comparing apples to oranges. Crafted gear is better than dropped gear of the SAME level.
Catches-the-Sun - Argonian Templar - Master Smith, Provisioner, Chemist & Tailor
Valaren Arobone - Dunmer Flamewalker - Master Woodworker, Provisioner, Assassin
Kazahad - Khajiiti Arcane Archer - Master Thief
V'orkten - Redguard Swordmaster
Finnvardr the Frenzied - Werewolf Berzerker0 -
Now I understand your point!
So my blacksmithing skill should be more evolved, beyond the capacity of make items on my lvl.
But the case is that the NPCs, drop better items more often than I can evolve blacksmithing.
The NPCs are always dropping items that are top for my lvl.
I'm getting better items from NPCs even before I can build these items.Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Willow✭✭✭I am crying here I am laughing so hard. I hope you get your answer op and really I am not laughing at you in any way.
This thread is just golden though.Edited by Willow on April 21, 2014 10:03PM0 -
RaZaddha✭✭✭You must be doing overleveled content, I complete every zone before moving to the next, so I'm always overleveled and the drops are pretty much equal or worse than my current crafted white armor because they are lower level. I craft my armor set every two levels because it breaks easily, I'm a melee tank so I'm always taking damage.1 -
Can we all be adults here and accept that English is probably not his or her first language and just address the issues he's written about? That'd be nice.Lady Novà - Wood Elf Templar - American Megaserver1 -
Willow✭✭✭Can we all be adults here and accept that English is probably not his or her first language and just address the issues he's written about? That'd be nice.
So do you have any advice for the op cause that would be nice and would help with the issue he/she has written about and all.
Edited by Willow on April 21, 2014 10:07PM0 -
No, I'm pretty new to the game as well. Doesn't mean I can't post on his behalf for the lack of tolerance when it comes to his post and how he wrote it.Can we all be adults here and accept that English is probably not his or her first language and just address the issues he's written about? That'd be nice.
So do you have any advice for the op cause that would be nice and would help with the issue he/she has written about and all.
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Delte✭✭✭I make all my own armour and weapons with blacksmithing, clothing and woodwork. As well as brew my own potions because they are all better than what I find in quests or loot drops.
Tonight for instance I have just made a full set of green level 30 medium armour with two set bonuses on it along with dual daggers and a bow all level 30 and green with enchantments. This will last me till level 35/36 where I will then look to make a new set.
All the dropped loot and rewarded loot I either deconstruct or research because its rubbish for my character.
Not once have I bought any potions and the ones I find in drops or loot I sell for gold because I can make better potions. How about having a potion that can restore magicka, stamina and add a bonus to weapon power/ critical chance?
Or even a single potion that will restore health, magicka and stamina in one shot?
No dropped or looted potions will do that for you.
I also get a kick out of making all my equipment and feels it adds to my gameplay and enjoyment of the game. TESO is one of those MMO's where crafting has a real meaning behind it and I am pleased about this.
As for gold I buy and sell items in the guild stores and use it for upgrades. No need to buy any weapons or armour/ potions from any npc because my equipment is tailor made and is far better and cheaper.
At the moment my armour and weapons gives me an extra 10% to healing from any source and a 5% chance to cast spells without using magicka.1 -
You must be doing overleveled content, I complete every zone before moving to the next, so I'm always overleveled and the drops are pretty much equal or worse than my current crafted white armor because they are lower level. I craft my armor set every two levels because it breaks easily, I'm a melee tank so I'm always taking damage.
Hmmm ... that would explain my situation.
If you play this way I'm playing, you will notice that you will not use the blacksmithing. It becomes unnecessary.
So I'm playing in a way that crafiting system seems useless , but it is not.
This solves my questioning.
Tks RaZaddha!Be a person of whom the world is not worthy.0 -
Zorak✭✭✭I agree that the economy is strange and the gold is useless besides repair, upgrade horses and bags/bank space.2
