Why do you take gear damage from looting dungeon boss

pat02468prerb18_ESO

In fully healthy gear I farm dungeon boss for an hour without dying and I go back to see a 300g + repair bill??? Now I only farm dungeon boss naked.

bob_jeko

Can i join you?

I promise to be naked!

pat02468prerb18_ESO

Omg, farming equals botting? Don't play MMO.

Noswell

I think there should be a placeholder for posts deleted by mods so those responding to them don't sound quite so....odd. Just saying.

Bunk

Being in combat damages your gear. Hell, it damages your gear faster than straight-up dying.

Sinoby

I believe gaining experience damages your gear, not just being in combat.

Cherryblossom

pat02468prerb18_ESO wrote: »

Omg, farming equals botting? Don't play MMO.

I think you will find that Botting is where something is automated.

In this case the user is using there own skill against a boss to gain loot. In this case with the added difficulty of being naked!

Intelligence is a rare comodity on the Forum

pat02468prerb18_ESO

I see. Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. And yeah I was responding to someone who deleted their post.

Noswell

Sinoby wrote: »

I believe gaining experience damages your gear, not just being in combat.

Really? That would be the strangest goldsink I've heard of to date.

Loxy37

So you are admitting to being a MMO lucust then? I think they should quadruple it just to make you think twice about spoiling the game for a people! I hope come next month that we will see less locusts and parasites.

pat02468prerb18_ESO

Loxy37 wrote: »

So you are admitting to being a MMO lucust then? I think they should quadruple it just to make you think twice about spoiling the game for a people! I hope come next month that we will see less locusts and parasites.

Then quadruple it. Fix the game so it's balanced. Then you won't have farmers and botters spoiling your dungeon completion. I am just trying to save some gold for a mount cos I didn't buy the imperial edition. Seriously, instead of blaming a legit player trying to progress through the game, tell Zenimax to fix it. You don't think I'm sick of the bots too? I see them more than you by the sounds of it.

I am simply finding a way to save gold legit, and if the game is such that it conflicts with your progress, suck it up. You're not anymore entitled to your progress than I am to mine.

Daggers

I remember naked mining in UO...

Oh sorry, erm yes, damage to items you're not wearing, I've seen that. No idea, but I'd welcome a dev blog post shedding light on this and other passive mechanics.

Jirki88

Repairing equipment is about as cost-effective as mining copper to make ebony ingots.

Tannakaobi

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

Noswell

Cherryblossom wrote: »

In this case the user is using there own skill against a boss to gain loot. In this case with the added difficulty of being naked!

This is particularly difficult in a corporate environment.

Belrim

Noswell wrote: »

Sinoby wrote: »

I believe gaining experience damages your gear, not just being in combat.

Really? That would be the strangest goldsink I've heard of to date.

nothing new in that, other MMO's do the same. And yes, its a stupid goldsink.

edit: every average day when i play .. im spending 1000-1500 on repairs. Including maybe 1-2 deaths (yes, i sometimes take on impossible odds just for the heck of it. and running away from fight is for wimps ) and lots of fighting.

Jirki88

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Dunhilda

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

So people are crying they can't get loot from bosses and you think they should have a hour cool down? So when I enter A dungeon I'm more than likely will never see the boss?

Seems slapping your head is causing you to kill off some of your brain cells, please stop.

Belrim

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

more like getting the blue drops and deconning them to get upgrade items. But ofcourse, ppl who spammed the dupe cheat dont understand this.

Jirki88

Belrim wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

more like getting the blue drops and deconning them to get upgrade items. But ofcourse, ppl who spammed the dupe cheat dont understand this.

Uh, I've done my fair share of dungeon miniboss farming, and it was more to level up my crafting skills than to get any upgrade materials (as I get more green/blue drops from regular world than from these minibosses). Gear upgrading isn't particularly useful in PvE until high level either due to the ridiculous repair costs.

Tannakaobi

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

Jirki88

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Dekkameron

This thread is going places i see.....

Tannakaobi

Dunhilda wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

So people are crying they can't get loot from bosses and you think they should have a hour cool down? So when I enter A dungeon I'm more than likely will never see the boss?

Seems slapping your head is causing you to kill off some of your brain cells, please stop.

I think you misunderstand me. I mean each player can no longer target the boss for an hour after they have killed him.

reggielee

geeze, get back on topic. for the OP, it makes sense that if you are fighting your armor/weapons get nicked and dented and need to be repaired. I havent thought about fighting naked to avoid this on easy fights but will as Im tired of replacing my gear to avoid the fees, or sucking up and repairing a nice piece I want to keep.

I wonder if they will institute a cap to repairing like other games... so eventually you will have to replace the gear in time regardless................

Tannakaobi

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Don't be an idiot. Dungeon diving should be the stand out feature of this game but is ruined by the fact that they are farmed by players and bots alike.

You don't see a reason why seeing a naked guy and a load of slaves waiting for a dead boss to re-spawn is immersion breaking?

Well in which case I say your selfish and only think of your own enjoyment. Why be part of a game that has a community. Or lack of one because of people like you.

Jirki88

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Don't be an idiot. Dungeon diving should be the stand out feature of this game but is ruined by the fact that they are farmed by players and bots alike.

You don't see a reason why seeing a naked guy and a load of slaves waiting for a dead boss to re-spawn is immersion breaking?

Well in which case I say your selfish and only think of your own enjoyment. Why be part of a game that has a community. Or lack of one because of people like you.

I see other people being present in a ruin that apparently was closed up for several thousand years as "immersion breaking", but hey, guess what, this is a MMO, not a single player game. If you could get that through your evidently thick skull maybe it wouldn't be so big an issue. The fact that people farm bosses, well yeah, never been that much of a fan of it, but it's part of MMO. It's a good way to get eqps to level you crafting with, it's a good way to stock up on potions and soul gems... If people do what is best for their progression, I'm not gonna fry them for that.

And you know, there's people who enjoy boss farming too. Why are their enjoyment worth less than yours? How are you less selfish than them, then?

Tannakaobi

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Don't be an idiot. Dungeon diving should be the stand out feature of this game but is ruined by the fact that they are farmed by players and bots alike.

You don't see a reason why seeing a naked guy and a load of slaves waiting for a dead boss to re-spawn is immersion breaking?

Well in which case I say your selfish and only think of your own enjoyment. Why be part of a game that has a community. Or lack of one because of people like you.

I see other people being present in a ruin that apparently was closed up for several thousand years as "immersion breaking", but hey, guess what, this is a MMO, not a single player game. If you could get that through your evidently thick skull maybe it wouldn't be so big an issue. The fact that people farm bosses, well yeah, never been that much of a fan of it, but it's part of MMO. It's a good way to get eqps to level you crafting with, it's a good way to stock up on potions and soul gems... If people do what is best for their progression, I'm not gonna fry them for that.

And you know, there's people who enjoy boss farming too. Why are their enjoyment worth less than yours? How are you less selfish than them, then?

Personally, I'd be happy just doing PVP, but I keep getting reminded how TES is about the 'story' and 'RP experience' and that is why the xp in PVP is so bad.

There are so many ways to get gear and matts I don't see the need to have to farm the mini dungeons. Like I said, if there was a cooldown on attacking the boss the problem is solved. People will find something else to farm but bots will be gone and the dungeons would be as good as they should be. I could actually live with the farmers if the bots were not there.

I don't why you keep referring to it being an mmo not a single player game. I only play mmo's

With a cooldown you could still farm, it would be a case of farming many rather than just the same one boss which is what is wrong.

Jirki88

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Don't be an idiot. Dungeon diving should be the stand out feature of this game but is ruined by the fact that they are farmed by players and bots alike.

You don't see a reason why seeing a naked guy and a load of slaves waiting for a dead boss to re-spawn is immersion breaking?

Well in which case I say your selfish and only think of your own enjoyment. Why be part of a game that has a community. Or lack of one because of people like you.

I see other people being present in a ruin that apparently was closed up for several thousand years as "immersion breaking", but hey, guess what, this is a MMO, not a single player game. If you could get that through your evidently thick skull maybe it wouldn't be so big an issue. The fact that people farm bosses, well yeah, never been that much of a fan of it, but it's part of MMO. It's a good way to get eqps to level you crafting with, it's a good way to stock up on potions and soul gems... If people do what is best for their progression, I'm not gonna fry them for that.

And you know, there's people who enjoy boss farming too. Why are their enjoyment worth less than yours? How are you less selfish than them, then?

Personally, I'd be happy just doing PVP, but I keep getting reminded how TES is about the 'story' and 'RP experience' and that is why the xp in PVP is so bad.

There are so many ways to get gear and matts I don't see the need to have to farm the mini dungeons. Like I said, if there was a cooldown on attacking the boss the problem is solved. People will find something else to farm but bots will be gone and the dungeons would be as good as they should be. I could actually live with the farmers if the bots were not there.

I don't why you keep referring to it being an mmo not a single player game. I only play mmo's

With a cooldown you could still farm, it would be a case of farming many rather than just the same one boss which is what is wrong.

Well, I would certainly like to see the bots being gone. The bots are actually a bigger problem for those who occasionally farm bosses (yeah, I say occasionally, because at most I do maybe 3-4 runs to a dungeon before I've outleveled it (since I do questing in between)) than for those who just want to get a hit in and complete the dungeon.

I don't agree with the cooldown - rather, the way this game wanting to cater to MMO and SP crowd alike, I'd bring up another suggestion from a previous thread - namely getting to choose when entering whether to enter a single player instance (where things won't respawn) or a public instance (where things will respawn).

Tannakaobi

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

Jirki88 wrote: »

kylemelhuishb16_ESO wrote: »

I think all Bosses should have an hour cooldown to prevent this crap. Why would you farm a Boss? It's a guaranteed way to be slow at leveling and pick up crap gear and items for your troubles add the repair bills and you don't even make gold.

It's understandable with bots. Annoying but understandable, when people do it. It's just *slaps forehead*.

But, whatever floats your boat...

How about... To get these white eqp drops to deconstruct for crafting leveling?

Great, break everyone's immersion so you can get some matts that you could easily get elsewhere.

I'll stick with my 1 hour cooldown thoughts and keep thinking that people that do this are divs.

What "immersion"? If that's your attitude maybe you should go demand that every single cave in the game become solo-instanced since any single player in that breaks your "immersion". This is a MMO ffs, not a single player game, however much you want it to be the latter.

What, do you think you will have an epic, awe-inspiring fight against the boss at the end of the cave? Sorry to bust your bubble, but these dungeon minibosses hit like a paper sword and have the hp of your average mortally wounded mudcrab. They're nothing but cannon fodder even if you go solo, even if you're a level or two below them.

Don't be an idiot. Dungeon diving should be the stand out feature of this game but is ruined by the fact that they are farmed by players and bots alike.

You don't see a reason why seeing a naked guy and a load of slaves waiting for a dead boss to re-spawn is immersion breaking?

Well in which case I say your selfish and only think of your own enjoyment. Why be part of a game that has a community. Or lack of one because of people like you.

I see other people being present in a ruin that apparently was closed up for several thousand years as "immersion breaking", but hey, guess what, this is a MMO, not a single player game. If you could get that through your evidently thick skull maybe it wouldn't be so big an issue. The fact that people farm bosses, well yeah, never been that much of a fan of it, but it's part of MMO. It's a good way to get eqps to level you crafting with, it's a good way to stock up on potions and soul gems... If people do what is best for their progression, I'm not gonna fry them for that.

And you know, there's people who enjoy boss farming too. Why are their enjoyment worth less than yours? How are you less selfish than them, then?

Personally, I'd be happy just doing PVP, but I keep getting reminded how TES is about the 'story' and 'RP experience' and that is why the xp in PVP is so bad.

There are so many ways to get gear and matts I don't see the need to have to farm the mini dungeons. Like I said, if there was a cooldown on attacking the boss the problem is solved. People will find something else to farm but bots will be gone and the dungeons would be as good as they should be. I could actually live with the farmers if the bots were not there.

I don't why you keep referring to it being an mmo not a single player game. I only play mmo's

With a cooldown you could still farm, it would be a case of farming many rather than just the same one boss which is what is wrong.

Well, I would certainly like to see the bots being gone. The bots are actually a bigger problem for those who occasionally farm bosses (yeah, I say occasionally, because at most I do maybe 3-4 runs to a dungeon before I've outleveled it (since I do questing in between)) than for those who just want to get a hit in and complete the dungeon.

I don't agree with the cooldown - rather, the way this game wanting to cater to MMO and SP crowd alike, I'd bring up another suggestion from a previous thread - namely getting to choose when entering whether to enter a single player instance (where things won't respawn) or a public instance (where things will respawn).

To be honest, that would suit me even more. I only say a cooldown because the devs seem intent on everything being public.

Take Lady Estra for example.. Spoiler/AD level15:

After following the story for a couple of hours and a huge build up to what should be an epic battle. No, most people will just come in at the tail end of the fight and manage to get one or a couple of hits in. This is repeated time and time again.

The mini dungeons are just the worse effected. So I'm all up for many instanced parts being added. Otherwise Cooldowns to prevent farming and more importantly bots.

Alpha_Protocol

Cherryblossom wrote: »

pat02468prerb18_ESO wrote: »

Omg, farming equals botting? Don't play MMO.

I think you will find that Botting is where something is automated.

In this case the user is using there own skill against a boss to gain loot. In this case with the added difficulty of being naked!

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