Has Anyone Ever Sold a Potion?

KenCleanAirSystem

Agree, though I farm my own mats and probably don't sell the volume that others do, but I probably average about 10k profit per day selling tri-pots and spell damage potions. The only cost to me is the listing fee, the house cut of each sale and my time.

purple-magicb16_ESO

Malediktus wrote: »

I doubt anyone buys them. Levelling alchemy (same with provisioning) is just way too easy and quick.

Agreed. The game is backwards in this respect. Normally you would think that crafting would hold someone back in terms of adventuring and levelling battle skills, but it actually goes hand-in-hand. Crafting actually (to a degree) is dependent upon character level (i.e. Have you ever gotten a message while deconning that your character is insufficient level to extract all products from the item?). So then at that point you must adventure to level your character which implies a significant investment in advancing battle skills, all so that he/she can become a more effective crafter.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

I'm not in this for the money and don't sell pots. That said the prices the above pays for mats is nuts. I won't pay anything near those prices. I have bought Bugloss for 10g in quantity.

cote-bmsb16_ESO

Selling flowers and selling v5 pots are best. People love the bugloss, mnt flower and columbine. Bugloss and columbine sell for like 100-120g each, but mnt flower only 100g. Flowers on sale for the alchemists and potions for non-alchemists or people who don't have enough time to farm for the materials themselves. People try sell a stack of potions for 10k, but I usually get them for 7-8k for a stack of tri-pots or spell crit damage potions.

Natjur

As the potions REAL name and what players call them are so different, we need to pick a few good nick names. Maybe the dev's can rename them.

Tri-pots is well know already (Restore health, mana and stamina) even tho they are called (Panacea of Health) in game. Would be nice if they were called Tri-pots in game.

What do you and your guild 'nickname' the other potions? Our guild use the following

Mage pots (Restore mana, Add Spell Crit and Spell Damage)
Tank Pots (Restore health, restore stamina, unmovable)
Melee Pots (Weapon Power, Weapon Crit, and recover stamina)

failkiwib16_ESO

Join some of the larger pvp guilds out there, since a lot of pvp players don't do pve content and crafting, they do tend to buy their stuff.

Honestly, as a highelf templar healer I have never had the need to use good crafted potions, I normally only use the normal potions that I find as loot... but I buy them every now and then, when I run out of the looted potions. I don't even care about the combinations, as long as I get magicka from them :P

...and yeah I have lvl'ed alchemy to max, it's just too bothersome for me to craft for myself.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Join some of the larger pvp guilds out there, since a lot of pvp players don't do pve content and crafting, they do tend to buy their stuff.

Honestly, as a highelf templar healer I have never had the need to use good crafted potions, I normally only use the normal potions that I find as loot... but I buy them every now and then, when I run out of the looted potions. I don't even care about the combinations, as long as I get magicka from them :P

...and yeah I have lvl'ed alchemy to max, it's just too bothersome for me to craft for myself.

So a 20 Spell Power, 200 Spell Crit and a bunch of Magic ... is not what you need?

Pheefs

I don't sell, I share...

& that being said, potions & provisioner drinks I'm giving out all the time!

Reverb

I don't sell, I have a wicked tripot addiction that demands constant attention.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Reverb wrote: »

I don't sell, I have a wicked tripot addiction that demands constant attention.

My new Argonian NB is using a couple a fight now. I'll be hanging another 5 sec reduction on a ring for him soon, bringing his reduction up to 10 secs off the cooldown. With the other potion enhancing passives he has, his numbers on the potions are pretty high as well.

Nothing like starting with a tripot Attack potion then cuing up a Health tripot for the end, should you need it.

ThePonzzz

I'm having a real tough time meeting the demand for selling tripots. Buying bugloss, columbine, and mountain flower at 120g or less is becoming really tough. But the demand for the potions aren't any less. Most PvP buyers aren't willing to go over 10k a stack.

Without spending days farming, the profit margins are very low. Most guild kiosks are selling the herbs at around 14k to 15k a stack, and without adding the price of cloud mist (for cap), we really need to be pricing these stacks at about 13.5k to 15k.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

I will give u rough picture and will not go in details. I am speaking about EU server,
My net profit after 4 days of farming were 140000 gold ( roughly ). I gathered all mats but water ( 2000 per stack ). In average u need 1 hour and 10 minutes of gathering to get 1 stack of tri pots and 1 stack of panacea of magica. so basically i was farming around 14 hours gross. Market is stable and demand is pretty high. Panacea of health goes for 12 k and panacea of magica goes for 11,5 k .
Alch is lucrative proffesion.

Jitterbug

I sell vr5 tripods on a regular basis.

ThePonzzz

tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »

I will give u rough picture and will not go in details. I am speaking about EU server,
My net profit after 4 days of farming were 140000 gold ( roughly ). I gathered all mats but water ( 2000 per stack ). In average u need 1 hour and 10 minutes of gathering to get 1 stack of tri pots and 1 stack of panacea of magica. so basically i was farming around 14 hours gross. Market is stable and demand is pretty high. Panacea of health goes for 12 k and panacea of magica goes for 11,5 k .
Alch is lucrative proffesion.

Where in game can you farm 100 columbine, 100 bugloss, and 100 mountain flower in 70 minutes? Because I barely get 10 of each in 60 minutes running the Hollow City.

newtinmpls

The truth is that potions are a pain to use. Yeah, I have a ton of them; got a few higher level friends who share. The quickmenu is crap; and if I actually use it once in a few hours of playing, it's a rare day.

Food I do use - at lower levels (below 10th) the crank the max of a stat, and at higher levels (10+) [and remember, my highest level character is 26] more of the boost stat regeneration stuff.

As for potions being "expensive to make" - ???? the ingredients are free. I've got eight characters wandering around the world. None of the crafting costs anything. What the heck are you paying for?

And to answer the original question, yeah I've sold potions (and food) at low levels, pricing them at 3-10 gold for how ever many I have extra (usually 2-15 or so) figuring that lower level characters just starting out might not have hit a lot of drops yet.

ThePonzzz

newtinmpls wrote: »

As for potions being "expensive to make" - ???? the ingredients are free. I've got eight characters wandering around the world. None of the crafting costs anything. What the heck are you paying for?

The cost is when you buy the materials to make the potions. In order to meet demand, you'd have to be able to buy the materials to make the amount of potions some PvP Guilds are pushing for. I was asked if I could provide 10 stacks a day for 10,000g a stack. In order for me to do that, I'd need to buy everything and make the potions. At the present time, I'd have a net loss by doing this, because a stack bugloss and columbine sell for about 15,000g+ in guild stores.

I have absolutely no idea how someone is finding enough materials to make a stack every 70 minutes. I barely find a dozen bugloss in that time. I can find other herbs while I'm farming for them, but to find a stack of each one would take me over a week. And that would make me about 4 stacks of tri-pots. I've been asked to produce 7000 potions a week. Just not feasible for me.

Darlgon

You guys are ALL HILARIOUS. You do realize the first 16 posts were from .. umm...EIGHT MONTHS AGO .. in April right after launch? But this guys comment was the best.

Kungfu wrote: »

Whoah whoah whooooooah...
Sorry for my novel here, but I have to write it out to explain. There are plenty of buyers on the NA server for VR5+ tri-pots.

...

Sorry man, I have to reply immediately after reading the first four responses. I'll go back and read the rest later.

Sorry, after reading that part of the posts and checking the dates, I skipped reading the great wall of text and most of the comments inbetween.

ThePonzzz

Bumping/Necroing an old thread is still better than making 100s of new ones. The crafting forums aren't a cluttered mess like the general discussions at least.

Darlgon

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Bumping/Necroing an old thread is still better than making 100s of new ones. The crafting forums aren't a cluttered mess like the general discussions at least.

Not when people take 8 month old QQs and act like they apply today. Start a new thread for that and let the original die a forum death.

Interesting tho. I could have sworn necroing was against the original Community Rules, but I cant find it now. (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/60843/community-rules)

Carry on.

ThePonzzz

Bumping for the sole purpose of bumping is against the rules. But carrying on a discussion is not.

I'm not the one who started it, but the concerns are still legitimate that were recently mentioned.

maryriv

Gillysan wrote: »

Here are the problems with potions as I see it.
1 - It's something players make that also drops from mobs easily enough.
2 - It's one of the "soft" crafting professions; no research, easy to find all mats, far too easy to level.
3 - You can easily get by PvE without them.
4 - There are no mobs in the world that need any kind of potion to defeat them (Just an idea, would be cool to have some, just give us a handful ZOS, mob you need a potion to become immune to their killer attack. A potion made by a well skilled Alchemist)
5 - It's early in the game, too early to see any trends

I want to expand on #1 specifically. We have shining example of how to make things valuable to players. EVE Online. They have been on a development trend of making more and more items in game available only from players. TESO doesn't necessarily have to go to the extremes EVE has but potions is one I vote for being player made only.

Power to the crafter! :salute:

Yes, I KNOW this is a year old thread so before someone screams NECRO realize that this is STILL a huge issue and I am quoting this guy because all of these same exact problems still persist a year later.

SLy_Kyti

@maryriv
you know its a necro thread and still bump it. Why?


Things have changed.
The meta has changed.
The prices have changed.
The player demographics have changed.
much of what's written here is wrong now

Try running a vet dungeon with a dropped 1 stat potion lmao
Try taking on a world boss solo with no potions as you quoted ROFL
I make thousands selling tripots.

It's dead. Start afresh.

maryriv

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

@maryriv
you know its a necro thread and still bump it. Why?


Things have changed.
The meta has changed.
The prices have changed.
The player demographics have changed.
much of what's written here is wrong now

Try running a vet dungeon with a dropped 1 stat potion lmao
Try taking on a world boss solo with no potions as you quoted ROFL
I make thousands selling tripots.

It's dead. Start afresh.

It's NOT a necro thread can you not read? The same exact problems persist. Get a grip.

Vandril

maryriv wrote: »

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

@maryriv
you know its a necro thread and still bump it. Why?


Things have changed.
The meta has changed.
The prices have changed.
The player demographics have changed.
much of what's written here is wrong now

Try running a vet dungeon with a dropped 1 stat potion lmao
Try taking on a world boss solo with no potions as you quoted ROFL
I make thousands selling tripots.

It's dead. Start afresh.

It's NOT a necro thread can you not read? The same exact problems persist. Get a grip.

*pokes* By definition, it's still a necro even if it's relevant. It's just a relevant necro.

Just sayin'.

newtinmpls

Maybe the more relevant question now is what potions (or foods or drinks) would you or do you buy now?

I tend to use crafted foods and dropped potions.

LIQUID741

Made more on tri-pots than any other prof. in the game. 10k per stack...so I would say its pretty good for the most part.

Jeremy

Krym wrote: »

SadisticSavior wrote: »

Malediktus wrote: »

Small circle - small competition --> large circle - large competition
so a larger circle will actually lower prices

Larger circle = more exposure = more likely to find a buyer.

Lower prices will only react to supply and demand. If the stuff you are providing is hard to make (you need a lot of skill) or has rare ingredients, prices will be higher. Assuming the effect is something people want enough to pay for.

larger market means also more people selling the rare stuff dumping prices, more people that will undercut you for 1g. and even then the herbs itself will probably much cheaper so people will just buy those and ask their guild crafter.

People worry about this undercutting for 1 gold business way too much.

If there is demand for the item it won't matter. So what if you put a potion up for 50 gold and then someone else puts it up for 49 gold after you. It will still sell - just not quite as fast.

It's better than not having a buyer at all because none of the potential buyers have access to what you are trying to sell.

golfer.dub17_ESO

I don't buy potions because they are too expensive for such little gain.

Alchemy ingredients are fairly rare, thus you see them selling for hundreds of gold each.
Thus, a stack of potions costs a few grand, yet how fast would I go through all of them?
I already power through the potions that regular NPC's drop, can't afford to constantly drop 10k for potions that are only slightly better.

I've considered starting alchemy myself in case people actually do buy potions, but personally I don't.

Now food on the other hand, that is something I buy all the time, because it's something I actually need all the time.

Kublakan

TriPots level VR5 sells pretty good quite fast.

Athas24

You are better off selling the components needed for creating the potions than trying to sell the finished product In My Opinion. The cost for components is high and if you are crafting the set, one would imagine you would want $$ for the work put into the craft. It's just not a strong enough market for this. Selling the components separately gets you a ton of cash really quick though because everyone and their mom can make their own potions since its easy to level.[/color[