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Scammed by Vampire Bite Seller
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Harkrider✭✭✭Here's a question for you all. Once thieves and crime are introduced into this game, would scamming still be considered illegal, or just part of the game. I mean, seriously, if I'm a member of the thieves guild and I steal or scam someone of their money, wouldn't that be part of the game?
I sure hope so. I don't have much sympathy for people who fall for silly scams.0 -
Vladish✭✭lol I'm surprised some people can make it through the day safely, the stupidity of the entitlement generation knows no bounds.
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They may get the scammer banned, but there is no reason for them to refund you your gold. Live and learn. Although as it was pointed many times before, you may get banned for releasing personal information/shaming of the person in question.0 -
South_of_Heaven✭✭✭Players simply shouldnt be able to bite others. This would avoid so many troubles: grieving, scamming, all that kind of rage because of it.
I wouldnt pay anything for something like this though and i didnt.
Yea, because that would solve most scamming "problems" - I know - let's prevent all kinds of trading and all kinds of chat and communication, maybe turn it into a single player game to eliminate all scamming.
Anyway, deciding to trust the word of a total stranger on the internet and entrusting him your money - either real or virtual? Hmmmm... I don't know whose fault it is...
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MysticAura✭✭✭While I'm sorry the OP got scammed, and the scammer should be slapped. I hope this is a lesson to be remembered. It's a shame that strangers can't be trusted, but this isn't disney land or a back to school special. Don't automatically trust strangers, ever. This also could've been avoided by not trying to pay for a 'quick fix'.
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Endolith✭✭✭It should remain transmissible between players imo. I like that mechanic and it makes sense.0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭An hour after its creation, this thread still contains personal information.
@ZOS_ALANG, I summon you.0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »Two questions.
Why would you pay for this?
And how old are you?
Half the people on these forums are ardently defending this kind of thing as "legitimate MMO business" / "it's possible thus it must be allowed." So according to those people, the initial transaction was completely reasonable and valid, and so too is scamming this guy.
Who cares how old he is? Plenty of dumb old people.0 -
Kyosji✭✭✭Although I think scammers are pretty low as people, I don't think they should be punished or banned for their actions.0 -
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✭all you can do is shame him. Reputation will end up being everything in this game because your account is everything, just ignore him and ignore the account. whats he going to do when half the mega server has him on ignore? transfer?Edited by Laura on April 16, 2014 3:31PM0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭just shame him put him on ignore get his account name and let us know that
That is against the rules.
Naming-and-Shaming: We do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with. A certain amount of rivalry and competitive razzing is healthy for any game community, especially one with PVP elements, but naming-and-shaming goes well beyond that. It typically elevates to a point where the subject feels legitimately harassed. We believe that naming-and-shaming posts and threads can be abused and are very harmful to the community. We also don't feel that publicly calling out or accusing others by name on our forums is in spirit of the game or our community. If you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, you should report them in-game via the support interface — do not bring the situation onto the official ESO community forums.
Personal Information: For the sake of your own identity protection and personal privacy, we ask that you please do not share any personal information in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. This also goes for sharing another community member’s personal information — doing so is not only considered malicious behavior, but it is a violation of our Terms of Service and something we take very seriously.Edited by Harkrider on April 16, 2014 3:32PM0 -
Ravinsild✭✭✭✭crimsonBZD wrote: »After reading this, I'm going to make a vamp character at some point just to run around and bite people who specifically did not ask for it
First you have to give them a reason to be at the alter, which is the only place you can bite them.
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Conning and scamming characters as part of an RP... sure, why not? But, you need to make sure the players are actually aware that you're "RP"ing, and you're not just conning or scamming them.Here's a question for you all. Once thieves and crime are introduced into this game, would scamming still be considered illegal, or just part of the game. I mean, seriously, if I'm a member of the thieves guild and I steal or scam someone of their money, wouldn't that be part of the game?
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Kyosji✭✭✭all you can do is shame him. Reputation will end up being everything in this game because your account is everything, just ignore him and ignore the account. whats he going to do when half the mega server has him on ignore? transfer?
Ah, but shaming is not allowed per the EULA you agreed to.
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South_of_Heaven✭✭✭cheeser123 wrote: »michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »Two questions.
Why would you pay for this?
And how old are you?
Half the people on these forums are ardently defending this kind of thing as "legitimate MMO business" / "it's possible thus it must be allowed." So according to those people, the initial transaction was completely reasonable and valid, and so too is scamming this guy.
Who cares how old he is? Plenty of dumb old people.
So? Have you thought if it can actually be disallowed??? ZOS and every game already has trouble dealing with the real cheaters/hackers/bots and cannot address every single gullible person being scammed, plus in most cases there is no definite proof of the scam, since screenshots usually fail to depict the whole transaction/communication.
It's just not possible to address these issues. It reminds me of people complaining to companies how they missclicked and sold their items to the vendor before "rebuy" was "invented".
It is also not possible to prevent scams either, as long as there is a way to communicate with other players and a way to trade.
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I cant stop laughing that you posted this on the forum thinking that something would done......LMAO
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Harkrider✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Conning and scamming characters as part of an RP... sure, why not? But, you need to make sure the players are actually aware that you're "RP"ing, and you're not just conning or scamming them.Here's a question for you all. Once thieves and crime are introduced into this game, would scamming still be considered illegal, or just part of the game. I mean, seriously, if I'm a member of the thieves guild and I steal or scam someone of their money, wouldn't that be part of the game?
'Hello, I am playing the role of a scammer. Do you agree to play along?'
'Uhhh, what?'0 -
otomodachi✭✭✭If someone is victimized in any way, and you blame that person for being a victim, you are a terrible human being. I don't care IN WHAT WAY they are victimized, I hope you die in a fire for blaming them. Thanks, bye.What do you gain by criticizing a CSR complaint?0 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭I fail to see the hoo-haa of all this. The OP was scammed out of 15,000 in virtual gold, which is a currency only applicable within this one game and exists nowhere else within this universe.
If you'd paid some gold seller real money for that 15K which you then wasted on a bite scammer, then it would be a problem and deserving of action. Or if you'd spent days researching and grinding for Epic or Legendary level items to make a set and sent those as payment, then it might be considered deserving of action.
But virtual money which can be easily gained again and has limited use even within the game (maybe he can buy nice armour before you, but it'll make little difference to your play experience overall) is hardly anything to cry or complain over.
As other have said, you've now learnt not to trust people in MMOs since they're not all nice and trustworthy and at least can serve as a warning to others on the fallacy of honorable gaming.The Legendary Nothing0 -
MysticAura✭✭✭Although I think scammers are pretty low as people, I don't think they should be punished or banned for their actions.
Accepting scammers and giving no punishment is as much as encouraging their behavior. Please never do this. Why should they stop if they aren't taught what's acceptable and what isn't? I'd like to say their conscience would stop them, but it seems that is getting very rare.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Conning and scamming characters as part of an RP... sure, why not? But, you need to make sure the players are actually aware that you're "RP"ing, and you're not just conning or scamming them.Here's a question for you all. Once thieves and crime are introduced into this game, would scamming still be considered illegal, or just part of the game. I mean, seriously, if I'm a member of the thieves guild and I steal or scam someone of their money, wouldn't that be part of the game?
'Hello, I am playing the role of a scammer. Do you agree to play along?'
'Uhhh, what?'
I'd take that over "You wanna ERP?" any day.
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Harkrider✭✭✭dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »I fail to see the hoo-haa of all this. The OP was scammed out of 15,000 in virtual gold, which is a currency only applicable within this one game and exists nowhere else within this universe.
If you'd paid some gold seller real money for that 15K which you then wasted on a bite scammer, then it would be a problem and deserving of action. Or if you'd spent days researching and grinding for Epic or Legendary level items to make a set and sent those as payment, then it might be considered deserving of action.
But virtual money which can be easily gained again and has limited use even within the game (maybe he can buy nice armour before you, but it'll make little difference to your play experience overall) is hardly anything to cry or complain over.
As other have said, you've now learnt not to trust people in MMOs since they're not all nice and trustworthy and at least can serve as a warning to others on the fallacy of honorable gaming.
Scamming is scamming.
Do I feel bad for the victim? Not really.
Do I think the fact this happened in a game somehow makes it acceptable? No.
Just because it's virtual money doesn't mean the victim hasn't actually suffered from this. Time investment, grief, etc., these things are all really affected despite being fake currency.4 -
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✭✭I hope they ban the scammer and give you a refund. Yes I have a minority opinion here but scammers irk me to no end, and while I think people should be a lot more careful I'm not going to dismiss being scammed as the victim's fault. That's not unlike blaming the woman for being sexually assaulted, or that reporter wearing google glass being assaulted and having his google glass smashed because he was wearing it at an anti-google protest. You still have to blame the assaulter.
If you don't come down hard on scammers they have no reason not to scam. Unlike nigerian email scammers you can take action against them here.
And btw, like harkrider I don't feel bad for the victim, I just want the scammer banned. Not banning him is an injustice.Edited by Holycannoli on April 16, 2014 3:40PM2 -
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^THIS is the person you want playing who contributes to community
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South_of_Heaven✭✭✭otomodachi wrote: »If someone is victimized in any way, and you blame that person for being a victim, you are a terrible human being. I don't care IN WHAT WAY they are victimized, I hope you die in a fire for blaming them. Thanks, bye.
Oh, you know, I was victimized by putting all my skill points in the wrong places, give me a free respec ZOS please. And then I was victimized because a monster respawned on me and I died, jee give me my repair costs back ZOS please. And I was also victimized by a person who got that chest before I did, ZOS give my epix please. And not to forget about being victimized by missclicking the research button two times on an item that I wanted to equip, give it back ZOS now please. And and everyone who blamed me should "die in a fire" (your words).
Edited by South_of_Heaven on April 16, 2014 3:49PM0 -
Kililin✭✭✭✭The ability to know wrong from right is really scarce in here.
It is not ok to betray or scam someone, and it is not the victims fault.
It is not ok sexually harass someone because he is not able to adequatly defend himself.
It is not ok to beat someone up because he is too weak, except he agrees to it for example in a sports fight.
Not in game, not out of game.
In game it could be ok, if it where in the rules of the game, so i would have to expect it, but in this game it is explicitly not allowed to scam someone.0 -
Slash8915✭✭✭✭✭otomodachi wrote: »If someone is victimized in any way, and you blame that person for being a victim, you are a terrible human being. I don't care IN WHAT WAY they are victimized, I hope you die in a fire for blaming them. Thanks, bye.
Lmao, and WE'RE the terrible people. Gtfo2
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