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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Vampire and Werewolves Extinct

  • Luthien_Elfmaid
    also once I level my vamp up I will happily infect you free. if you don't get it in game yourself
    Tinúviel! Tinúviel!
    He called her by her elvish name;
    And there she halted listening.
    One moment stood she, and a spell
    His voice laid on her: Beren came,
    And doom fell on Tinúviel
  • Ryvyr
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    Confirmed - all yesterday in real time during game night time there were bloodfiend spawns in various locations in at least Dominion and Pact, and quite sure in Covenant as well but without literal proof.

    I was able to contract for my Sorceress and verified other locales aside, and have at least one screen shot of them taken after securing a bite before taking my death happily with infection.

    I spoke with customer service over a separate issue this morning (petitioned for call last night - they are quite busy it seems...) and asked opinion of why they didn't spawn for so long, and did not receive a factual answer other than theory that it *might* have been from temporarily disabling while trying to decide how to handle "it."
  • RustyBlades
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    Beats ninja spawn gankers. Those I would hate to see in-game.
  • Xbloody_m3ssx
    This thread is rife with misinformation, and whiny buggers complaining about how they want it and want it now. They are RARE spawns. They don't spawn in the same place everytime/night so people camping one spot to get it are just wasting time. Plus it seems like people have this mentality that if you see a vamp or werewolf you should just let it kill you and leave it for someone else. Obviously if that was the case they would be incredibly hard to kill or unkillable. What if i want to roleplay and stop the spread of vampirism or lycanthropy, deal with it. Its supposed to be hard to get because it adds a degree of value and achievement to getting it. If everyone could get it so easy it wouldn't need such heavy debuffs to go with it because everyone would have it.
    Everyone has this attitude that they shouldn't have to work for something they want because someone else has it and it seems cool.
    Next thing you know the game is watered down to cater to people who can't comprehend the idea of working hard for a reward. And then people would just complain because there isn't enough to do or work toward end game.
    Correct me if im wrong but isn't an mmo supposed to be a game that people play for months if not years. The fact that its hard to get gives people a reason to try at it and keep on playing.
    And if you are going to enter in an unregulated transaction be prepared to lose that money and don't spend gold you can't afford to lose. You know they don't have to honor it. I doubt zenimax is going to go around banning people for scamming bites (end rant)
  • Ziaka
    Ziaka
    Bloodfiends spawned in bangkorai, reapers and the rift around two real days ago NA
  • Ryvyr
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    Logical fallacies aside, there was a dry spell of sorts without any spawns at least on NA for some time - that seeming more the issue than what might seem a defense in repugnant behavior (when malicious purely rather then any other motive).

    Everquest educated many on penalties and patience I think, and by comparison modern games seem a stroll in the park during preferable weather~ /shrug
  • Contrabardus
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    It's not role playing if people can't stop you. RP is a two way street, both parties have to be in agreement about it or you're just being a ***.

    If there is a way to stop hunters and protect the spawns, it would be a different story.

    As things are right now, people who say they are RPing or lvling Fighters guild are just using it as an excuse to justify their trolling.

    Without a way for the players looking to get infected to retaliate or prevent the hunters from taking out spawns claiming RPing doesn't cut it.

    I'm fine with the spawns being rare and taking a long time. If you're out on your own and happen to run into a vampire mob and kill it with no one around, fine. As long as everybody has a real shot at it when it happens, its great.

    If you're camping out amongst groups to take the spawns away from other players who want to gain Vampire or WW, you're griefing and being a troll. There's no justification you can come up with that makes that not true.

    In a PvP environment the RPing argument might have some merit, but in this kind of situation it just doesn't cut it.

    Same goes for scamming. If you scam me and I have the ability to kill you and loot your body for doing it, anything goes. In the current system this game has for player interaction, that doesn't work. It's a one way street with no consequences for the offending party. There is no justifying it.

    If you can RP taking gold or resources away from someone, they should be able to RP hunting you down and murdering you and your entire family, burning down your house, and robbing your corpse for doing it to them. If not, then you're not RPing, you're just stealing and being a ninja looter. Mob or not, vamps and WW are resources and by killing them when there are others waiting around to gain what they provide is griefing no matter how you try to justify it.

    There's nothing anyone can do to stop someone from killing the infection mob. That's bad design and was a poor decision in a PvE no teamkill environment. There's no consequence for taking these mobs from large groups of players who may have camped to find them for a very long time. That's really not okay.

    Oh, and they have been banning scammers and I've seen mention on the forums that spawn camping may also lead to a suspension or ban. A post from the devs said to report players that are spawn camping and add Werewolf/Vampire Spawn Camping as the first line.
    Edited by Contrabardus on April 25, 2014 6:22AM
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Well , im still trying , to a point.

    If i finish the story and get to veteren before i can find the vampires , i will just buy the bite.

    Getting tired of wasting time each game night i can.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • snigernissen
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    k, first of i would like to say that it IS still based on the moon cycles, a couple of nights ago i found a major spawn site of WW's ( didnt bother with them since im allready one ) and i my self had to wait for a fullmoon to get infected or my guildie could not bite me.
    about vamps, ive done tons of quests with players around the server ( EU ) and some of them got infected one of the nights, so from what i can see the option is still there but you guys must have been in bad luck not to find any or get infected from the once that was there allready.
    Aside from that, if you are playing on a EU server and you see its a fullmoon, then toss me a poke and if my bite is available, ill come infect you with lycanthropy so you can join the pack :)
    ( dominion side ofc )
    Edited by snigernissen on April 25, 2014 7:32AM
  • antmck2011rwb17_ESO
    I've looking each and every full moon - never seen werewolves. This is in The Right, Ebonheart Pact. I read somewhere it has to be a Hunter's Moon - don't know if that's true. I got sick of waiting and had someone bite me. Now I'm a happy wolf Ahhooo.
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