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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Vampire and Werewolves Extinct

jaron_edow
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Is it just me or has the vampires and werewolves cease to spawn since the "unscheduled maintenance". I've waited since maintanence every in game night and haven't seen anything in any of the spawn locations marked online. I'm wondering if people have seen any spawns since in other factions (I'm in bangkorai a.k.a. daggerfall) If it's a bug it should be fixed a.s.a.p. and NOT ON A SATURDAY NIGHT.....
  • rager82b14_ESO
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    They really need to change the spawns. They need to sit back and say, look maybe making it hard to get is not what players want. I think in pvp, it would be fun to have a vampire char, and a Vampire/WW hunter fighters guild char. The draw backs of both are strong, and it would be fun being a hunter in it.

    They have made a system, that is not fun for many players and it is open to be grief. It is bad game design. They need to at least spawn every darn night.


    Does it really matter if lots of people are vampires or WW? There are lots of Night Blades running around saving the day doing the same story i am, yet I can ignore them. I'm not the chosen one even though story making it out like i am. So why does it matter if people want to be a damn vampire or ww.
    Edited by rager82b14_ESO on April 15, 2014 3:05AM
  • Nyrielle
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    I would appreciate an answer as well. I have been trying for several days now. Nothing has spawned at any location and I have been moving between them. I am also Daggerfall Covenant.
    Edited by Nyrielle on April 15, 2014 8:23AM
  • 7788b14_ESO
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    Haven't seen one yet. Next maintenance may be during a night cycle as well.
  • jaron_edow
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    I'm so glad I'm not the only one frustrated with this and wanting either answers or results.
  • Nyrielle
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    jaron_edow wrote: »
    I'm so glad I'm not the only one frustrated with this and wanting either answers or results.

    Nope you are not the only one. During one of times waiting at various locations I someone said they had been trying for 4 days. Nothing had spawned in that time. I want this very much as well, so I will be waiting till something happens or I find something out. I just want to know if the spawns are now at random/other locations or is it broken. Hmm, maybe we all need to be submitting bug reports. We could start informing others who are waiting to begin submitting bug reports and maybe we will get an answer faster that way.

  • Killum
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    Just a thought but maybe the reason they are not spawning is because the Devs have stopped them from spawning due to all the complaints people have made on the forums about them being camped, exploited for gold(Selling bites), blocking progression, harassment of players etc.

    Maybe they are working on something that will help with the current problems and stopped the spawns in the meantime.
  • luckyjoemcb14_ESO
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    Killum wrote: »
    Just a thought but maybe the reason they are not spawning is because the Devs have stopped them from spawning due to all the complaints people have made on the forums about them being camped, exploited for gold(Selling bites), blocking progression, harassment of players etc.

    Maybe they are working on something that will help with the current problems and stopped the spawns in the meantime.

    I actually heard from a guild mate , that there was some kind of twitter or something stating that they had disabled the spawns, and were thinking of disabling the ability to give out bites, for the time being.

    I cannot actually confirm this, however this guild mate tends to have good information so I believe him.
  • Trouvo
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    they dont spawn every day in the game its based on the moon phase in the game and only at night in the game, also they mixed up and changed the spawn locations because of griefers

    during full moon phase which lasts (IIRC) 2.5 days the werewolves spawn and you can get the disease
    for 3.5 days it is a waning moon which means neither werewolf nor vampires will spawn
    during the new moon phase which also lasts (IIRC) 2.5 days the vampires spawn and you can get that disease
    then 3.5 days of waxing moon until the next full moon where neither werewolf nor vampires will spawn again

    Again not sure if i have the length of time correct but you can always look at the moon in game and know if it is in cycle or not
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  • rager82b14_ESO
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    Trouvo wrote: »
    they dont spawn every day in the game its based on the moon phase in the game and only at night in the game, also they mixed up and changed the spawn locations because of griefers

    The moon phase has nothing to do with it unless it is bugged right now.That was proving already i thought.
  • Januk
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    Trouvo wrote: »
    they dont spawn every day in the game its based on the moon phase in the game and only at night in the game, also they mixed up and changed the spawn locations because of griefers

    The moon phase has nothing to do with it unless it is bugged right now.That was proving already i thought.
    It's also been proven otherwise that it does actually matter.

  • rager82b14_ESO
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    Januk wrote: »
    Trouvo wrote: »
    they dont spawn every day in the game its based on the moon phase in the game and only at night in the game, also they mixed up and changed the spawn locations because of griefers

    The moon phase has nothing to do with it unless it is bugged right now.That was proving already i thought.
    It's also been proven otherwise that it does actually matter.

    In other words no one knows what they are talking about, since my friend to WW not on a full moon.

    *shrugs* i'm sure it will get fixed, or made easier.

  • KerinKor
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    I actually heard from a guild mate , that there was some kind of twitter or something stating that they had disabled the spawns, and were thinking of disabling the ability to give out bites, for the time being.

    I cannot actually confirm this, however this guild mate tends to have good information so I believe him.
    Even if they do it'll be too little too late, bad design simply inviting exploitation by the selfish .. it's an MMO this sort of behaviour comes with the territory it doesn't need assisting by game design that doesn't take into account human nature.

  • darkstud5b14_ESO
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    I don't think that people would mind if the system has been "offline" while they try to fix issues. I think its more about not knowing what has happened. A twitter feed is nice but it should also have been placed in the forums if this was the case. I am sure that there are just as many if not more people who come to the forums for answers to questions and not everyone follows/uses twitter. For a problem like this, if the WW/Vampire feature was turned off for any reason it would have made more since for them to say so using all of their social media sights and not just twitter. I believe that people just want some information so that they don't feel as thought they are wasting their time night after night trying to get something that has been turned off.
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  • luckyjoemcb14_ESO
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    Like I said I dont know if this was true or just a rumor, so take that as you will.
  • AlienSlof
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    Nyrielle wrote: »
    I would appreciate an answer as well. I have been trying for several days now. Nothing has spawned at any location and I have been moving between them. I am also Daggerfall Covenant.

    ^ This ^

    Been trying for ages now and never even seen a vampire spawn. :(

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  • jonal11_ESO
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    I don't want to be a WW or Vamp, but I do want it to be easier for others to become them so I can stop seeing the bite spam! =p
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    I don't want to be a WW or Vamp, but I do want it to be easier for others to become them so I can stop seeing the bite spam! =p

    I rarely seem bite requests haha - maybe it's faction based spam? I'd take that type of spam over the Gold Seller chat and mail spam, or people creating political flame wars spam.

    But yeah, spawns have been strange lately, multiple guildmates have been having issues with finding anything.
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  • Syndica
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    This is just me but I would like to see WW and Vamps be part of a quest line from start to finish. Not a random spawn that people can and will exploit. I don't know how that would work but I think it would be better than what we currently have.
  • Gedalya
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    I checked Twitter; no reference of Vampires since Oct, 2013. Last post:

    https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/392678242164817921

    Also, I would hope they would announce in a patch note if they did something like this. Further, I would hope they would not do something like this; as it is penalizing those of us who play fairly because of the abuse of other players.
    Edited by Gedalya on April 15, 2014 3:07PM
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  • jonal11_ESO
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    I don't want to be a WW or Vamp, but I do want it to be easier for others to become them so I can stop seeing the bite spam! =p

    I rarely seem bite requests haha - maybe it's faction based spam? I'd take that type of spam over the Gold Seller chat and mail spam, or people creating political flame wars spam.

    But yeah, spawns have been strange lately, multiple guildmates have been having issues with finding anything.

    Well, in Riften on the Ebon Heart Pact there is nothing but bite spam or complaining or talking about WW and Vamps. =/

  • Gedalya
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    FYI; I'm looking to receive a Vampire bite, and I am trading Racial motifs.
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  • The_Death_Princess
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    Hmm.. came here to make a suggestion about this, but thought naw forget it.

    If someone is silly enough to get greifed over this at 20k or 30k a bite, fine by me. As far as the campers go, the devs will ban these for violation of TOS, just report them.

    Anyone else so worried about being one of these fine, get it, see me in RvR, and I will pwn you.
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  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    They should just make it so other vampires/werewolves, in any zone and not just those specific bloodfiends or whatnot, can inflict lycanthropy and werewolfism or whatever it is on you. Having it restricted to certain spawn times and spawn areas was just askin for all this trouble with it. Bloodfiends are up all the time in eastmarch, just let one of those and the ones in similar leveled zones that are always there bite people and be done with it. Don't see why there isn't the option to be turned during the quest involving vampire blood either...
    Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on April 15, 2014 3:25PM
  • Melian
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    If they did turn it off, it would be nice to have been told instead of wasting three nights looking for them. :(
  • neocomab16_ESO
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    Oh nice, so this is their way of regularing overpopulation problems? :dizzy_face:
  • malais
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    Januk wrote: »
    Trouvo wrote: »
    they dont spawn every day in the game its based on the moon phase in the game and only at night in the game, also they mixed up and changed the spawn locations because of griefers

    The moon phase has nothing to do with it unless it is bugged right now.That was proving already i thought.
    It's also been proven otherwise that it does actually matter.

    Wrong and utterly misinformation. Moon phase has nothing to do with it. This has been proven via a number of websites.
  • dw0011nrb19_ESO
    I got my very first char turned in DC a few days after launch.

    Then I went EP and the time approached where they should have spawned according to the moment where I got my bite and at that moment we had the downtime. Now after that, one week later we still have not seen one single vampire on the usual spawn locations. There were here and there people reporting that tiny spawns were seen but immediatelly killed by players. Griefing apparently.

    This then means that for almost two weeks, no vampires. People pay for this and dont get the actual content...
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  • 7788b14_ESO
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    Could someone from ESO either confirm or deny that WWs and Vamps should be spawning? Since the maintenance cycles occurred spawns seem off.
  • Iago
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    I have seen werewolves all over Grahtwood
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  • thilog
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    On the EU server, in the rift, last night I was a guy selling a werewolf bite for 35k.. only.. like so.. cheap.. not. Now I realise he was obviously a ZO employee.. he's cornered the market.
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