Tomato & Difficult to find Provisioning

Torwin

N_Hearthcroft wrote: »

I once found a tomato in Cyrodiil some time ago. Didn't realize how rare they were and left it there. Now I can't find them anymore.

Exactly the same here, only it wasn't in Cyrodiil; somewhere within AD or maybe Coldharbour, as I haven't really set foot anywhere else (save for starting areas).

SexyVette07

Tomato and oats dont exist. Question, are they maybe sold from one of these
"grociers" ive heard about in VR zones?

radiostar

Confirm both oats and tomatoes from the hireling. Believe ZOS has confirmed it's the only way to get them. Saw the post in another thread somewhere.

Catches_the_Sun

radiostar wrote: »

Confirm both oats and tomatoes from the hireling. Believe ZOS has confirmed it's the only way to get them. Saw the post in another thread somewhere.

That is correct. Zenimax has recently confirmed that they are intentionally only available from Provisioner hireling 2 & 3. Since I upgraded to hireling 3/3 4 days ago, I have received both tomatoes & oats.

Locke_ESO

Assuming purples recipes all do +mag,+stam & +hp then it's kind of a weird situation imo by making tomato and oats from the hireling exclusively. It means that if the below make ups are in fact true then the Consummate Honey Brittle is much better than the other 2 as while pepper is rare it's available from the world rather than just from the hirelings:

http://esohead.com/recipes/332-consummate-sweetroll
http://esohead.com/recipes/328-consummate-honey-brittle
http://esohead.com/recipes/338-consummate-honey-pudding

Potato and Onion also seem to be available in much greater numbers than they will ever be useable in due to the tomato ingredient requirement.

SexyVette07

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

radiostar wrote: »

Confirm both oats and tomatoes from the hireling. Believe ZOS has confirmed it's the only way to get them. Saw the post in another thread somewhere.

That is correct. Zenimax has recently confirmed that they are intentionally only available from Provisioner hireling 2 & 3. Since I upgraded to hireling 3/3 4 days ago, I have received both tomatoes & oats.

Wait, seriously?? Anyone have a link where it was confirmed by Zenimax? Guess ill have to go find some more skyshards to get 3/3.

reggielee

thanks for the heads up, I had been destroying some of those rare ingredients as I dont have the recipes for them yet, but I have never seen a tomato I dont think.

SexyVette07

Question, when you take 3/3 hireling, but only 1/6 improvement, will you still get tomato's? I wasnt going to do provisioning, and instead pay someone else to make my food for me until I have an abundance of points at VR10.

kreekitb16_ESO

Uh that confirmation from Zenimax is quite surprising... as i found a tomato just yesterday was running around VR zones to gather Honey!

So 86 Honey and 1 Tomato ... it seems just a bit more rare than the rest.

reggielee

well, its nice to know that provisioning hireling isnt as useless as once thought. but is it still worth the points for a handful of maters ?

Catches_the_Sun

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

radiostar wrote: »

Confirm both oats and tomatoes from the hireling. Believe ZOS has confirmed it's the only way to get them. Saw the post in another thread somewhere.

That is correct. Zenimax has recently confirmed that they are intentionally only available from Provisioner hireling 2 & 3. Since I upgraded to hireling 3/3 4 days ago, I have received both tomatoes & oats.

Wait, seriously?? Anyone have a link where it was confirmed by Zenimax? Guess ill have to go find some more skyshards to get 3/3.

I don't have the link, but here was the quote.

"ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
Hi all,

We can confirm that oats and tomatoes are indeed in the game and working as intended. We double checked when we started seeing threads like this, just to be sure.

Here's a little info, to help you:
Currently, you will never find oats or tomatoes out in the world. This is working as intended.
Both oats and tomatoes are only available from Provisioner Hireling boxes. They are rare by design.
They're only available if you have the Provisioner Hireling passive skill to Rank 2 or greater."

Sakiri

kreekitb16_ESO wrote: »

Uh that confirmation from Zenimax is quite surprising... as i found a tomato just yesterday was running around VR zones to gather Honey!

So 86 Honey and 1 Tomato ... it seems just a bit more rare than the rest.

That would be a bug then.

Yusuf

this is ridiculous, i can buy oats for my horse but not for me?-.- even worse, you're hireling is supposed to travel tamriel, yes? why does he find it and we don't

Catches_the_Sun

Yusuf wrote: »

this is ridiculous, i can buy oats for my horse but not for me?-.- even worse, you're hireling is supposed to travel tamriel, yes? why does he find it and we don't

Don't you read his messages? He's out there getting into all sorts of shenanigans.

Artemiisia

some items aint world drops, but have to be brought at a vendor, like imperial flour I think its called

Onions, salt, pepper, potato, while I have been levelling up, I notice these were not so common in drops, so I kept them, not I have between 50-100 of them that means if Im using them thats between 150-300 potions, or 150-300 hours of buff, plenty of time for me to find them again.

Natjur

There are four tiers of food parts
T0 Chef NPC brought only items (never drop, like Imperial Stock)
T1 Common but found in set zone by level
T2 Uncommon found in all zones, required for blue recipes
T3 Rare, designed to be 'hireling only' (but they are not) and required for purple recipes

Tomatos and Oats 'appear' to be the only food parts that are 'hireling only'. I have been told of people looting tomatos, I still will not believe it until I get one myself.

V5 Consumated Honey Brittle uses the T3 rares Garlic and Pepper and I have alot of theses. They need to either make all T3 Rare drops, or make them all only from hireling.

speaktorobeb17_ESO

Natjur, do you have a link for your source? It would be good to read what else it has to say. And thanks, it's really useful to know about the rankings of ingredients.

There are four tiers of food parts
T0 Chef NPC brought only items (never drop, like Imperial Stock)
T1 Common but found in set zone by level
T2 Uncommon found in all zones, required for blue recipes
T3 Rare, designed to be 'hireling only' (but they are not) and required for purple recipes

Tomatos and Oats 'appear' to be the only food parts that are 'hireling only'. I have been told of people looting tomatos, I still will not believe it until I get one myself.

V5 Consumated Honey Brittle uses the T3 rares Garlic and Pepper and I have alot of theses. They need to either make all T3 Rare drops, or make them all only from hireling.

SexyVette07

Are the vendors that sell imperial broth and the such only in the VR 6-10 zone? Im VR4 and have never seen them. I assume im too low level as they are for recipes requiring VR5.

mark.markandb16_ESO

I can confirm that the hireling does bring tomatoes.....he delivered 4 to me yesterday.

Tabia

I put 3 points into hireling last night, got 5 oats and 3 red wheats on the first delivery. I've had a lvl 25 purple recipe for a week. I didnt use it yet since i was still missing the oats. Not sure if i will now though since im almost lvl 40.

hauke

theres supposed to be a vendor in coldharbor that sells imperial ingredients

Grithok

There are vendors in many places that sell imperial ingredients. Look for grocers in towns.

Locke_ESO

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Are the vendors that sell imperial broth and the such only in the VR 6-10 zone? Im VR4 and have never seen them. I assume im too low level as they are for recipes requiring VR5.

The Emporium in Windhelm has a grocer on the top level ("Soup is for dryskins!" - you will learn to hate this phase). For Daggerfall they are typically located somewhere in an inn or if you need one in the Domion zones there is one located just by the docks along the route to the Harborage in Vulkhel Guard in Auridon. There are probably others around but I never looked after I finally found one.

SexyVette07

jp_antillb16_ESO wrote: »

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Are the vendors that sell imperial broth and the such only in the VR 6-10 zone? Im VR4 and have never seen them. I assume im too low level as they are for recipes requiring VR5.

The Emporium in Windhelm has a grocer on the top level ("Soup is for dryskins!" - you will learn to hate this phase). For Daggerfall they are typically located somewhere in an inn or if you need one in the Domion zones there is one located just by the docks along the route to the Harborage in Vulkhel Guard in Auridon. There are probably others around but I never looked after I finally found one.

Thanks for the feedback. I had someone in my guild earlier tell me that veteran level materials can be bought at the mage town (dont remember what its called) that you get access to after the mages guild quest line. Havent confirmed, but ill check it out.

Natjur

T0 are from Grocer NPC Locations: (Vet only zones)

Ebonheart Pact: Black-Silk-Earth in Davon’s Watch, Stonefalls.
Northern part of the Market District.

Aldmeri Dominion: Samardan in Vulkhel Guard, Auridon.
Near the docks by the merchant stall

Daggerfall Covenant: Jafrost Cold-Eye in Betnikh.
Dockside Trading Stalls

(ColdHarbour)
Hollow city at the food place across from the bank

The list of T1-T3 can be found Here

So save your T2
Salt, Red Wheat, Onion, Hallertau Hops, Snowberry and Concord Grapes

And the very rare T3
Garlic & Pepper, Barley & Oats, Potato & Tomato, Hops & Saaz Hops, Juniper Berry & Canis Root and White Grapes & Jazbay Grapes

Strange that Tomato and Oats are the only ones that appear to be hireling only but the other rare T3 can be found (just rare).

SexyVette07

hauke wrote: »

theres supposed to be a vendor in coldharbor that sells imperial ingredients

Indeed. Hollow city at the food place across from the bank has a grocer that sells imperial ingredients

lynzriches

Covyn wrote: »

I have never seen a Tomato, or an Oats.

I started out in Daggerfall and have found MANY onions...however not one single tomato. Ever. I've seen a few oats in my crafting guild bank but I don't think I've found one myself yet.

hauke

oats and tomatoes = hireling only, confirmed by mod in other thread

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

dtere1_ESO wrote: »

Does anyone know where to find tomato at? I have a few guesses where it may be, but none have been fruitful yet.
- Growing on trees on farms somewhere

Tomatoes don't grow on trees... kids these days.

N_Hearthcroft wrote: »

Farming as a craft would be so neat! Perhaps paired with housing, if ZOS is ever able to implement.

Totally agree. Mining should be its own profession, so could hunting for food and skinning having just anyone be a professional Skinner and Miner is kinda lame.

Gisgo

Tomatoes are from hirelings, i have 14 of them (tomatoes, not hirelings lol).