So, NO FIXES for EU players it seems
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http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/77461/missing-bank-items-bank-slots-skill-point
"Last night, we performed a maintenance to address the long loading times that many were reporting, and some of the missing bank item issues.."
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/616187
"We aren't currently planning on any downtime for the EU megaserver."
Which means we on the EU server still have all the bugs in place.
Why this preferential treatment of NA players in the face of this critical, game-breaking bugfest?
Yes I KNOW the NA server had other problems but that's irrelevant.
Edited by KerinKor on April 13, 2014 7:44PM "Last night, we performed a maintenance to address the long loading times that many were reporting, and some of the missing bank item issues.."
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/616187
"We aren't currently planning on any downtime for the EU megaserver."
Which means we on the EU server still have all the bugs in place.
Why this preferential treatment of NA players in the face of this critical, game-breaking bugfest?
Yes I KNOW the NA server had other problems but that's irrelevant.
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Daemoneyes✭✭Well technically there is no EU server, because all server are still physically located in NA..Edited by Daemoneyes on April 13, 2014 7:57PM0 -
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And you know that NA server population is larger because..? Im am just wondering, I have no such information, so it will be interesting find it out0 -
deef85b16_ESO✭✭✭Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
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darkkterror_ESO✭✭✭You're not missing out on much. Even with that emergency maintenance with whatever fixes they put in the NA megaserver still experienced long loading times and problems with chat/guilds the next day.0
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RunAway✭✭✭I'll just fix your title;
- So, no fixes for the EU Megaserver, it seems. (I'm from the EU and play on NA).
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Harkrider✭✭✭darkkterror_ESO wrote: »You're not missing out on much. Even with that emergency maintenance with whatever fixes they put in the NA megaserver still experienced long loading times and problems with chat/guilds the next day.
But... but... he wants that too! NA got it!
Poor EU, missing out on unexpected emergency maintenance.
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Endolith✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.1 -
Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Thanks for responding on my behalf.
I couldn't be bothered with such an obvious observation.
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deef85b16_ESO✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know
Gaming is populair in the EU as well. Furthermore stating that NA must be more crowded is simply an assumption because you don't know the exact numbers, as they are not public. Edited by deef85b16_ESO on April 14, 2014 7:11AM0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.1 -
Endolith✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Even sales figures don't give you a concrete idea. For example, my guild has a lot of people living in the EU, and they're all playing on the NA server.Edited by Endolith on April 14, 2014 7:13AM0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
That's why everybody in-game is Asian.
Duh. Cmon, man... higher population in Asia means more Asians playing.
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Guess what, most of the bots/goldsellers are Asian..deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
That's why everybody in-game is Asian.
Duh. Cmon, man... higher population in Asia means more Asians playing.
/sarcasm
Edited by deef85b16_ESO on April 14, 2014 7:17AM0 -
Xfan✭So ... tbh i have nothing against using NA server as a test server. Fix something, see what's that fix going to break, while I'm playing almost trouble free on the EU server I prefer a bit of lag but still to be in, instead of 6-7 hours of maintenance Once it works on the NA server we'll have it uploaded on the EU server and it's going to be working and tested 0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Guess what, most of the bots/goldsellers are Asian..deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
That's why everybody in-game is Asian.
Duh. Cmon, man... higher population in Asia means more Asians playing.
/sarcasm
Logic is REALLY not your strong suit, is it?1 -
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✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Furthermore stating that NA must be more crowded is simply an assumption because you don't know the exact numbers, as they are not public.
No, that's pretty much a given not an assumption. It's been that way across every mmo to date. There's no reason to believe it would suddenly change.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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Sinoby✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.
So how does it work? Do you have any facts or just assuming? I am interested to find out, what distribution is. Long time ago in WoW it was like 2.5m in NA, 2m in EU and 5.5m in Asia. For modern day in ESO - I have no idea.0 -
Endolith✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well. Furthermore stating that NA must be more crowded is simply an assumption because you don't know the exact numbers, as they are not public.
I didn't state that NA was more crowded. If you're going to make an argument, take care to read what the other person actually said. I don't know which server is more populated, and neither do you. And throwing around general population numbers doesn't illuminate the issue at all. It's meaningless.
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deef85b16_ESO✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Guess what, most of the bots/goldsellers are Asian..deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
That's why everybody in-game is Asian.
Duh. Cmon, man... higher population in Asia means more Asians playing.
/sarcasm
Logic is REALLY not your strong suit, is it?
I'm a programmer so my logic isn't that flawed as I'm fairly good in my profession, I'm not a economics guys though (statistics), and I know a lot of variables come into play not only population. Though don't state that NA must be more crowded you don't know for sure, that was my point.Edited by deef85b16_ESO on April 14, 2014 7:21AM0 -
Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.
So how does it work? Do you have any facts or just assuming? I am interested to find out, what distribution is. Long time ago in WoW it was like 2.5m in NA, 2m in EU and 5.5m in Asia. For modern day in ESO - I have no idea.
Okay, quick example using the proposed logic in the comment I quoted.
Population of Earth: 7.1 billion
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
Conclusion using the proposed logic: More than half of the world population is Asian, therefore more than half of the players in ESO must be Asian.
Do you understand how incredibly wrong that is?
Honestly, it shouldn't require an explanation.
'Durr hurr higher population means more players.'
Seriously?1 -
Sinoby✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.
So how does it work? Do you have any facts or just assuming? I am interested to find out, what distribution is. Long time ago in WoW it was like 2.5m in NA, 2m in EU and 5.5m in Asia. For modern day in ESO - I have no idea.
Okay, quick example using the proposed logic in the comment I quoted.
Population of Earth: 7.1 billion
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
Conclusion using the proposed logic: More than half of the world population is Asian, therefore more than half of the players in ESO must be Asian.
Do you understand how incredibly wrong that is?
Honestly, it shouldn't require an explanation.
'Durr hurr higher population means more players.'
Seriously?
I didn't say "higher population means more players". I asked do you have any facts about distribution of ESO gamers between continents.
It seems you don't, you just like to atack people avoiding constructive dialog. Your argument about Asia doesn't make a lot of sence either - ESO was not even released in China (officially at least). But again, in WoW Asia population was bigger then NA+EU, so population of continets does come in to play to some extent, there are just other factors, that affect player distribution too.1 -
deef85b16_ESO✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.
So how does it work? Do you have any facts or just assuming? I am interested to find out, what distribution is. Long time ago in WoW it was like 2.5m in NA, 2m in EU and 5.5m in Asia. For modern day in ESO - I have no idea.
Okay, quick example using the proposed logic in the comment I quoted.
Population of Earth: 7.1 billion
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
Conclusion using the proposed logic: More than half of the world population is Asian, therefore more than half of the players in ESO must be Asian.
Do you understand how incredibly wrong that is?
Honestly, it shouldn't require an explanation.
'Durr hurr higher population means more players.'
Seriously?
Chances are that it COULD, not MUST that's what I stated, but we also know that Asian's aren't really into western RPG's (cultural differences), but if they did I'm sure we would see more Asian in all the western games.
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Harkrider✭✭✭deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Guess what, most of the bots/goldsellers are Asian..deef85b16_ESO wrote: »
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers.. Not only the USA plays games you know Gaming is populair in the EU as well.
I don't think it does. A lot of variables other than population would figure into this. The EU server might be more populous, or it might not be. The general population numbers don't tell us anything about what is more likely or not.
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
That's why everybody in-game is Asian.
Duh. Cmon, man... higher population in Asia means more Asians playing.
/sarcasm
Logic is REALLY not your strong suit, is it?
I'm a programmer so my logic isn't that flawed as I'm fairly good in my profession, I'm not a economics guys though (statistics), and I know a lot of variables come into play not only population. Though don't state that NA must be more crowded you don't know for sure, that was my point.deef85b16_ESO wrote: »deef85b16_ESO wrote: »Population North America: 528,7 million
Population Europa: 739,2 million
Just my €0,02
That doesn't say anything about the server populations, however.
Though it says something about the likelihood of how many of the population would play ESO, and if there are more people in a continent like EU, chances are that EU is more crowded than NA servers..
No. That's not how statistics work.
So how does it work? Do you have any facts or just assuming? I am interested to find out, what distribution is. Long time ago in WoW it was like 2.5m in NA, 2m in EU and 5.5m in Asia. For modern day in ESO - I have no idea.
Okay, quick example using the proposed logic in the comment I quoted.
Population of Earth: 7.1 billion
Population of Asia: 4.3 billion
Conclusion using the proposed logic: More than half of the world population is Asian, therefore more than half of the players in ESO must be Asian.
Do you understand how incredibly wrong that is?
Honestly, it shouldn't require an explanation.
'Durr hurr higher population means more players.'
Seriously?
I didn't say "higher population means more players". I asked do you have any facts about distribution of ESO gamers between continents.
It seems you don't, you just like to atack people avoiding constructive dialog. Your argument about Asia doesn't make a lot of sence either - ESO was not even released in China (officially at least). But again, in WoW Asia population was bigger then NA+EU, so population of continets does come in to play to some extent, there are just other factors, that affect player distribution too.
In response to my comment about the NA servers having a higher populace, you responding my telling me the real world populations of EU vs NA.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude what you were implying.
Honestly, this thread is nothing more than a 'what about us?' whine. There's nothing constructive here. Flip it around, if EU had more maintenance than NA, the same people would be crying 'why do you take our servers down more often than NA?'
Zeni can't win because people will always cry about stuff.
Less downtime? You're SERIOUSLY complaining about less downtime?1 -
Harkrider✭✭✭Sorry, it seems like the quote in my previous comment got messed up.
The rest of the message still holds true, though. Stop complaining about less downtime.2 -
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"Last night, we performed a maintenance to address the long loading times that many were reporting, and some of the missing bank item issues.."
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/616187
"We aren't currently planning on any downtime for the EU megaserver."
Which means we on the EU server still have all the bugs in place.
Why this preferential treatment of NA players in the face of this critical, game-breaking bugfest?
Yes I KNOW the NA server had other problems but that's irrelevant.
Have you read about the success of said fixes? It hasn't worked so well. Can I suggest you calm down a little and think logically. If the fixes break some more stuff do you want it on the EU server too? Let them test and get feedback from the US server and push a workibg patch to EU. This stuff takes time if it was easy we would all be in programming ans game design.
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