This game belongs in beta.

Phinix1

This was so far from ready for launch it is embarrassing. I'll be going back to other stable titles after demanding a refund, and come back again in a month to see if this nonsense is even close to resolved.

I've had so many issues with this game it is inexcusable. Probably 20% of the quests are bugged and can't be completed, and there is nothing but a "known issue, we'll get to it" response from support.

The lag whenever other characters are around is unplayable. The game literally locks up every time an action is taken, you mouse over a target, a quest is advanced, or you enter combat. This is like a hard lock stutter that freezes everything for a second then continues.

Then there are the interiors/public dungeons. The lag in there transcends comprehension. Half the time my character will simply stop responding to commands when activating actions. The only thing that works is block and jump. This lasts up to 20 seconds or until dead.

It really is too bad they felt the need to rush this to release because it is a wonderful game. I wouldn't be so disgusted if I didn't love it. But this really should not have left beta for another three months.

You can say its the Chinese exploiters trying to discredit American game companies (though I think ZOS is part European?), or that some pseudo-scientific brats with too much money and too little brains are studying the result of poisoning the "addiction" of modern gaming with failure. Whatever.

You can blame it on my rig or computer knowledge, but I have a quad core clocked at 4.2ghz with 16gb ram and a gtx780, game on SSD, no addons, with a 5mb cable connection that does fine with any other game. The system is newly installed and optimized. No fragmentation, no problems other than with ESO. The problem is not on my side.

The fact remains, I've had no reply to several tickets on these issues after four days, no official mention on the "known issues" post of this game breaking lag, and no time table for a resolution. About the only thing I have received is an increase in in-game griefing by stalker spazz zombies.

Let this be a lesson: NEVER pre-pay for a subscription MMO. You basically take yourself off the priority list for getting your issues resolved.

djodars

Why would you assume the problem is not on your side though? I have a Core i7 oc'd @ 4.2Ghz, GTX 780 with 16GB and a SSD as well... no problem here. Running everything on Ultra with SweetFX on top of it.

I've only add 5 quests bug on me and everything was fixed promptly with a quick logout/login spam...

It could be anything, don't rush and blame the company when you don't even know what's the issue. Contact support and wait for an answer... in the meantime, you could try repairing your install, upgrading directx, your drivers, reinstalling, bunch of stuff you can try before crying wolf.

Vlas

@‌djodars Do you even read the posts?

ElSlayer

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

I've had so many issues with this game it is inexcusable. Probably 20% of the quests are bugged and can't be completed, and there is nothing but a "known issue, we'll get to it" response from support.

I like all these guys who make nubers out of nowhere. I guess you gathered all the necessary statistics before making such a statement?
I'm sure that it is MUCH less than 20%, well, at least in AD and Cyrodiil quests.
ALL of my 4 tickets were addressed within 24 hours.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I have had no lag whatsoever in dungeons or outside it. I have a pretty slow PC as well. I have a quad core amd 4 gigs ram. Just FYI since this is a 32 bit app your 16 gigs of ram is still 4 gigs to the game. If I was you Id check my internet for latency sounds like you might have some issue there.

Vlas

You are going to argue semantics with him ElSlayer?

How do you know his personal experience?

Evenio

I'm not even going to dig through that wall of text. But reading the title and the first two sentences my only response can be this.

Is this your first time playing an MMO on launch?

jorill

i have a system that is much worse than yours and it runs pretty well. Maybe you are running too high settings. A lot of people try to run a game on max settings when their system cant handle it then complain the game isnt optimized. Im not sure if thats the situation here. I do agree with the rest of the post though

Evenio

jorill wrote: »

i have a system that is much worse than yours and it runs pretty well. Maybe you are running too high settings. A lot of people try to run a game on max settings when their system cant handle it then complain the game isnt optimized. Im not sure if thats the situation here. I do agree with the rest of the post though

I concur.

My specs:

i7 2600k 3.4GHz
GTX 570 factory OC
8GB RAM
7200 RPM HDD

I'm running this game on MAX settings with 4x MSAA and 2x supersampling on an average fps on 45-50. The lowest FPS i have gotten was around 38 in Vulkhel Guard when it was super crowded.

In a lot of area's i am even running 60+ fps. No lock-ups, nothing.

So it does seem to be hardware related in some way, since my specs are obviously way worse then yours. How come my PC runs this game without breaking a sweat?

Food for thought.

webmastereb17_ESO5

hm i ok, i am only lvl 35 but i have only 2-3 quests at the moment that are bugged.

I played the game on 2 different Machines (i7 2600k, nvidia 570, 16 GB RAM) and (i7 notebook with 8 GB RAM and nvidia 640) and have no problems with the game.

Internet Connection (UMTS for the Notebook) and 100mbit Cable for the Normal PC

And i must say, the engine is very performance so far.

Krivaan

I notice that you have a 780. There's a known issue with that GPU and that's why you're having these problems. It's something to do with the game being run in full windowed mode, but Zenimax have said that the next major content patch will include true full screen, which should sort the problem.

I get weird graphical glitches when talking to an NPC with my Radeon 290x, the screen flickers, but that's it. Otherwise it's as smooth as butter.

Syntse

Think OP can postpone any future releases by couple of months to year on any game. This is the current reality that publishers push developers to launch game even with issues. I don't think you can find game launched now days that doesn't have issues. Sad but true.

ElSlayer

Vlas wrote: »

You are going to argue semantics with him ElSlayer?

How do you know his personal experience?

Vlas, do you really think that 20% of quests he took is bugged? And why to write exact numbers when you don't know them?

I've compared numbers that he stated here with my own. That's all I did.
After that I've came to conclusion that he is exaggerating. IMO people usually do it because they believe that their arguments is underweight.

As a wall of text his problems looks huge and solid. If you start to analyze them one by one may find out that some of them are exaggerated. I find out one and pointed out.

slymerub17_ESO

Game runs smooth for me. I've had to log off and re-log in a couple times. The only bugged quest I've had was the bloodthorn assassin quest and that's been fixed.

Evenio

ElSlayer wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

You are going to argue semantics with him ElSlayer?

How do you know his personal experience?

Vlas, do you really think that 20% of quests he took is bugged? And why to write exact numbers when you don't know them?

I've compared numbers that he stated here with my own. That's all I did.
After that I've came to conclusion that he is exaggerating. IMO people usually do it because they believe that their arguments is underweight.

As a wall of text his problems looks huge and solid. If you start to analyze them one by one may find out that some of them are exaggerated. I find out one and pointed out.

I agree.

Especially the public dungeon part. I have yet to encounter the lag in the magnitude he is describing it.

All my bugs so far have been fixed by simply relogging. And i have yet to encounter HUGE unplayable lag.

Mennox

So far I feel this has been a relatively successful launch (very minor issues myself) but the game certainly doesnt belong in "beta" as a few people seem to suggest.

As with all things, you can do as much testing as you want to limit as many bugs as possible before release (as did Zenimax during open beta with ten's of thousands of players)....however, I can guarantee you that whether it be a game or software, when you release it to the masses, you will always get bugs or issues due to the amount of users accessing that content - thus, it can put a strain on many areas of your infrastructure you were unable to foresee.

Rather than just moaning about it, help the devs by posting detailed bug reports or be patient while they work very hard to get these issues resolved.

Vlas

ElSlayer wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

You are going to argue semantics with him ElSlayer?

How do you know his personal experience?

Vlas, do you really think that 20% of quests he took is bugged? And why to write exact numbers when you don't know them?

I've compared numbers that he stated here with my own. That's all I did.
After that I've came to conclusion that he is exaggerating. IMO people usually do it because they believe that their arguments is underweight.

As a wall of text his problems looks huge and solid. If you start to analyze them one by one may find out that some of them are exaggerated. I find out one and pointed out.

Wait wait wait.. so your experience differs from others, therefore they are wrong?

LOL... k.

Vlas

Mennox wrote: »

So far I feel this has been a relatively successful launch (very minor issues myself) but the game certainly doesnt belong in "beta" as a few people seem to suggest.

As with all things, you can do as much testing as you want to limit as many bugs as possible before release (as did Zenimax during open beta with ten's of thousands of players)....however, I can guarantee you that whether it be a game or software, when you release it to the masses, you will always get bugs or issues due to the amount of users accessing that content - thus, it can put a strain on many areas of your infrastructure you were unable to foresee.

Rather than just moaning about it, help the devs by posting detailed bug reports or be patient while they work very hard to get these issues resolved.

Hate to break it to you... but quest bugs dont take a week and a half to fix.

My guess... a majority of their developers went on vacation or even worse... their code is so terrible it has to be rewritten.

saki

This game belongs to ALPHA, beta is too good for this

Mennox

LOL! I have not seen a constructive response from you yet when you reply to my posts lol

Please enlighten me with your findings

Vlas wrote: »

Mennox wrote: »

So far I feel this has been a relatively successful launch (very minor issues myself) but the game certainly doesnt belong in "beta" as a few people seem to suggest.

As with all things, you can do as much testing as you want to limit as many bugs as possible before release (as did Zenimax during open beta with ten's of thousands of players)....however, I can guarantee you that whether it be a game or software, when you release it to the masses, you will always get bugs or issues due to the amount of users accessing that content - thus, it can put a strain on many areas of your infrastructure you were unable to foresee.

Rather than just moaning about it, help the devs by posting detailed bug reports or be patient while they work very hard to get these issues resolved.

Hate to break it to you... but quest bugs dont take a week and a half to fix.

My guess... a majority of their developers went on vacation or even worse... their code is so terrible it has to be rewritten.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Vlas wrote: »

Mennox wrote: »

So far I feel this has been a relatively successful launch (very minor issues myself) but the game certainly doesnt belong in "beta" as a few people seem to suggest.

As with all things, you can do as much testing as you want to limit as many bugs as possible before release (as did Zenimax during open beta with ten's of thousands of players)....however, I can guarantee you that whether it be a game or software, when you release it to the masses, you will always get bugs or issues due to the amount of users accessing that content - thus, it can put a strain on many areas of your infrastructure you were unable to foresee.

Rather than just moaning about it, help the devs by posting detailed bug reports or be patient while they work very hard to get these issues resolved.

Hate to break it to you... but quest bugs dont take a week and a half to fix.

My guess... a majority of their developers went on vacation or even worse... their code is so terrible it has to be rewritten.

It can take more than a week just to track down whats causing an error. Nevermind that they have a priority system which basically means low level stuff gets fixed first and high level stuff gets fixed last. I think its being completely unreasonable to expect them to have stuff fixed in a week.

Vlas

Mennox wrote: »

LOL! I have not seen a constructive response from you yet when you reply to my posts lol

Please enlighten me with your findings

Vlas wrote: »

Mennox wrote: »

So far I feel this has been a relatively successful launch (very minor issues myself) but the game certainly doesnt belong in "beta" as a few people seem to suggest.

As with all things, you can do as much testing as you want to limit as many bugs as possible before release (as did Zenimax during open beta with ten's of thousands of players)....however, I can guarantee you that whether it be a game or software, when you release it to the masses, you will always get bugs or issues due to the amount of users accessing that content - thus, it can put a strain on many areas of your infrastructure you were unable to foresee.

Rather than just moaning about it, help the devs by posting detailed bug reports or be patient while they work very hard to get these issues resolved.

Hate to break it to you... but quest bugs dont take a week and a half to fix.

My guess... a majority of their developers went on vacation or even worse... their code is so terrible it has to be rewritten.

I find that quests should be easily editable by Zenimax support.

I find that support should be more responsive beyond the first "reply or GTFO" email.

I find that Zenimax would have an update if they had an update. Since no update...

I find that because I am not a fanboi, I am not blinded by issues and I am looking at things objectively. I will give credit where credit is due... problem is, Zenimax hasnt been giving us anything. Their own customers have come up with fixes, and Zenimax hasnt bothered to put them in a sticky on the forums.

What should you deduce from that Watson?

tokyov

This game belongs in alpha. I can't believe they are charging people for this mess.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I still say it is being completely unreasonable to expect them to be able to just fix a quest with a flip of a switch. Especially an end game quest. I know alot of people have rushed to the lvl cap but this is why you shouldnt do that. You could start a new character. Collect skyshards with your current character. PvP. Craft. There is plenty to do while waiting for that one quest.

I also dont expect them to be constantly updating me on the forums. Just fix the stuff as soon as you can and dont waste time making forum posts. That would be my advice to the higher ups.

Vlas

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I still say it is being completely unreasonable to expect them to be able to just fix a quest with a flip of a switch. Especially an end game quest. I know alot of people have rushed to the lvl cap but this is why you shouldnt do that. You could start a new character. Collect skyshards with your current character. PvP. Craft. There is plenty to do while waiting for that one quest.

I also dont expect them to be constantly updating me on the forums. Just fix the stuff as soon as you can and dont waste time making forum posts. That would be my advice to the higher ups.

Why not? They can advance it easily by marking in the DB that its complete... Or even canceling the quest and allowing me to restart it.

But they dont, so why is that?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Vlas wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I still say it is being completely unreasonable to expect them to be able to just fix a quest with a flip of a switch. Especially an end game quest. I know alot of people have rushed to the lvl cap but this is why you shouldnt do that. You could start a new character. Collect skyshards with your current character. PvP. Craft. There is plenty to do while waiting for that one quest.

I also dont expect them to be constantly updating me on the forums. Just fix the stuff as soon as you can and dont waste time making forum posts. That would be my advice to the higher ups.

Why not? They can advance it easily by marking in the DB that its complete... Or even canceling the quest and allowing me to restart it.

But they dont, so why is that?

Because it is not as simple as you think it is.

Vlas

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I still say it is being completely unreasonable to expect them to be able to just fix a quest with a flip of a switch. Especially an end game quest. I know alot of people have rushed to the lvl cap but this is why you shouldnt do that. You could start a new character. Collect skyshards with your current character. PvP. Craft. There is plenty to do while waiting for that one quest.

I also dont expect them to be constantly updating me on the forums. Just fix the stuff as soon as you can and dont waste time making forum posts. That would be my advice to the higher ups.

Why not? They can advance it easily by marking in the DB that its complete... Or even canceling the quest and allowing me to restart it.

But they dont, so why is that?

Because it is not as simple as you think it is.

No... it is.

Nooblet

It's probably closer to 2% of quests are bugged.

However there are very serious issues, mostly involving phasing(cause of most of the quest bugs). As well as system crashes, and loading screen mishaps.

That said, I am truly enjoying the game. It's the most fun I've had from a new MMO since DAoC.(probably 6 titles ive played since then).

gimarwb17_ESO

Well people can argue till the crows come out but I also think the game needed more time to fix everything.
My experience was not only bugged quests but I saved like crazy and purchased bank storage spaces twice and was saving for more because as a crafter the storage is pityful.

Anyway, suddenly my bank space was back to the original and anything stored in the extra spaces was gone. Also gone was all the gold I had in the bank and it was back to nil.
Then I hear on ingame talk that this is a 'known error' and has been around for a long time and people just should not buy any bank slots.
This type of thing is just unacceptable!

randomaffliction66

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

This was so far from ready for launch it is embarrassing. I'll be going back to other stable titles after demanding a refund, and come back again in a month to see if this nonsense is even close to resolved.

I've had so many issues with this game it is inexcusable. Probably 20% of the quests are bugged and can't be completed, and there is nothing but a "known issue, we'll get to it" response from support.

The lag whenever other characters are around is unplayable. The game literally locks up every time an action is taken, you mouse over a target, a quest is advanced, or you enter combat. This is like a hard lock stutter that freezes everything for a second then continues.

Then there are the interiors/public dungeons. The lag in there transcends comprehension. Half the time my character will simply stop responding to commands when activating actions. The only thing that works is block and jump. This lasts up to 20 seconds or until dead.

It really is too bad they felt the need to rush this to release because it is a wonderful game. I wouldn't be so disgusted if I didn't love it. But this really should not have left beta for another three months.

You can say its the Chinese exploiters trying to discredit American game companies (though I think ZOS is part European?), or that some pseudo-scientific brats with too much money and too little brains are studying the result of poisoning the "addiction" of modern gaming with failure. Whatever.

You can blame it on my rig or computer knowledge, but I have a quad core clocked at 4.2ghz with 16gb ram and a gtx780, game on SSD, no addons, with a 5mb cable connection that does fine with any other game. The system is newly installed and optimized. No fragmentation, no problems other than with ESO. The problem is not on my side.

The fact remains, I've had no reply to several tickets on these issues after four days, no official mention on the "known issues" post of this game breaking lag, and no time table for a resolution. About the only thing I have received is an increase in in-game griefing by stalker spazz zombies.

Let this be a lesson: NEVER pre-pay for a subscription MMO. You basically take yourself off the priority list for getting your issues resolved.

Your entire post is wrong, either you've never played a brand new mmo before, or oyu're just one of the many people that go into a new game and do nothing but say how bad it is and how much you hate it, quit for six months com back play it for years and brag that's you've been here from the start lol. I love seeing threads like this.

Laura

Clotholachesisatropos666b14_ESO wrote: »

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

This was so far from ready for launch it is embarrassing. I'll be going back to other stable titles after demanding a refund, and come back again in a month to see if this nonsense is even close to resolved.

I've had so many issues with this game it is inexcusable. Probably 20% of the quests are bugged and can't be completed, and there is nothing but a "known issue, we'll get to it" response from support.

The lag whenever other characters are around is unplayable. The game literally locks up every time an action is taken, you mouse over a target, a quest is advanced, or you enter combat. This is like a hard lock stutter that freezes everything for a second then continues.

Then there are the interiors/public dungeons. The lag in there transcends comprehension. Half the time my character will simply stop responding to commands when activating actions. The only thing that works is block and jump. This lasts up to 20 seconds or until dead.

It really is too bad they felt the need to rush this to release because it is a wonderful game. I wouldn't be so disgusted if I didn't love it. But this really should not have left beta for another three months.

You can say its the Chinese exploiters trying to discredit American game companies (though I think ZOS is part European?), or that some pseudo-scientific brats with too much money and too little brains are studying the result of poisoning the "addiction" of modern gaming with failure. Whatever.

You can blame it on my rig or computer knowledge, but I have a quad core clocked at 4.2ghz with 16gb ram and a gtx780, game on SSD, no addons, with a 5mb cable connection that does fine with any other game. The system is newly installed and optimized. No fragmentation, no problems other than with ESO. The problem is not on my side.

The fact remains, I've had no reply to several tickets on these issues after four days, no official mention on the "known issues" post of this game breaking lag, and no time table for a resolution. About the only thing I have received is an increase in in-game griefing by stalker spazz zombies.

Let this be a lesson: NEVER pre-pay for a subscription MMO. You basically take yourself off the priority list for getting your issues resolved.

Your entire post is wrong, either you've never played a brand new mmo before, or oyu're just one of the many people that go into a new game and do nothing but say how bad it is and how much you hate it, quit for six months com back play it for years and brag that's you've been here from the start lol. I love seeing threads like this.

LOL that last bit is LITERALLY what my nephew did with WoW.