Green Pact
The known conditions of the Green Pact are as follows:
Only meat-based products can be consumed.
Prohibits the use of wood or other vegetable derivatives as building materials.
Forbidden to harm trees and plant life for their own betterment.
Forbidden to smoke anything of a vegetable nature.
Part of the Green Pact is the Meat Mandate that dictates that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Green_PactBosmer are also dependent on either stone or imported timber for construction purposes
Do you even played the game? And do you even know lore?
Cos i dont think so
Please, PLEASE tell me how exactly you violate Green Pact when you craft your bow (or anything by Woodworking)?Green Pact
The known conditions of the Green Pact are as follows:
Only meat-based products can be consumed.
Prohibits the use of wood or other vegetable derivatives as building materials.
Forbidden to harm trees and plant life for their own betterment.
Forbidden to smoke anything of a vegetable nature.
Part of the Green Pact is the Meat Mandate that dictates that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass.
Prohibits the use of wood or other vegetable derivatives as building materials.
The Bosmer have developed methods of fermenting meat and milk to develop powerful alcoholic beverages, and their weapons such as bows are often made of treated and shaped bones.
Technically, they are only forbidden to cut up wood from their own forest. The lore says foreign wood doesn't count. You can import it and not violate the pact. Or travel to other zones.Hey everyone, I'm fascinated by mer in general (love the Falmer the most but since they can't be played I always play my 2nd favourite which are the Bosmer).
Here's a problem I've found so far that bothers me:
In crafting a bow (which as a Bosmer I simply HAVE to do), I need to cut up wood!
That violates the Green Pact!! Put simply, I am unable to craft the weapon I love due to the current game mechanics Did the designers of the system not think this through or something? I know the style of the Bosmer is using bone (which is correct), but it still needs maple wood or something which is problematic. Is there a lore-friendly way to permit my bow-crafting?? Thank you in advance ^.^
I make some (minor) edits to my first reply
Building -no this not means you cannot craft with wood -this means you cannot BUILD (like you know -a house)
And they STILL build with wood -imported from other provinces
Btw -you dont break a Pact, cos you only "cut" wood from fallen branches (so no harm to any plant life).
"Though they are excellent archers, the Green Pact forces their bowyers and fletchers to use bone or similar materials, or to buy bows and arrows from other cultures. The use of woodcrafts created by another race is not forbidden, nor is the sale of their own Valenwood timber as long as it is collected by a non-Bosmeri."
jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »So you want them to come up with a specific alternate crafting skill, for one race only. Umm it will never happen. It's not there for the company to do so from a cost benefit analysis. If you have to have a reason, just say you lost your soul and don't care anymore. Boom Problem solved.
Yes that is what I'm saying. Though the Bosmer style requires bone in the game, the major material is still maple wood. I was simply looking for a lore-friendly reason to permit me to craft it anyway.I think what they're saying is that the Bosmer bow should be made of bone, and not wood.
Right and that would require specific drops just for bosmer, a seperate crafting system just for bosmer, and balancing that system versus the rest of the crafting. Combine that with the fact that I'm going to guess that less than 1% of the population won't care, and you can see that this is a situation where the op will just have to come up with some RP immersion system in his head. This is not a single player game where they can do things like this and not imbalance the game without investing lots and lots of constant dev time into it, which means constant amounts of money.I think what they're saying is that the Bosmer bow should be made of bone, and not wood.
Where did you get that?I want to make my own bow, but it seems that I cannot do that without violating the pact because it uses wood (even if it is not from Valenwood, it is still insulting to the Bosmeri religion).
It is only wood of their own Forest that is forbidden.The Green Pact, also known as the Treaty of Frond and Leaf, is a strict code upheld by the Bosmer of Valenwood, which prohibits the use of any wood or vegetable matter of Valenwood as building materials
... As a result, the Bosmer use bone, animal, and insect products widely; imported wood is used when necessary.
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Green_Pact
her*jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »op will just have to come up with some RP immersion system in his head.
Well you have it. Foreign wood is permissible. Go buy it in another zone, and craft away. Your conscience is clean.And to clarify, I really just want a lore-friendly reason to permit me to craft it!
SadisticSavior wrote: »
Thought not technically felling, isn't manipulating wood the same?Additionally, the Green Pact made the felling of trees by anyone, foreign or native, a crime against the Bosmeri religion.
Do you want to follow lore or not?Thought not technically felling, isn't manipulating wood the same?
SadisticSavior wrote: »The lore is very clear in stating the Bosmer DO use wood. So obviously they have no problems "manipulating" it.
This still works ONLY in Valenwood AND you are colecting fnaturally fallen wood, not cut down trees.
From the UESPWiki:Additionally, the Green Pact made the felling of trees by anyone, foreign or native, a crime against the Bosmeri religion.
Btw -remember that if you EVER use a light armor, OR any potion, OR any provisioning food not based on meat only -you are breaking the Green Pact.
And dont forget to canibalize all your foes!
And dont forget to canibalize all your foes!
Please @SadisticSavior, teach us how to canibalize all our foes!SadisticSavior wrote: »
You're a cat. If my house cats are any indication if you can fit it in your mouth you'll eat it.Please @SadisticSavior, teach us how to canibalize all our foes!SadisticSavior wrote: »
(cos we want to be lore friendly)
Oh wait im a Khajit, not a Bosmer(nomnoming on Valenvood flowers )
Hey everyone, I'm fascinated by mer in general (love the Falmer the most but since they can't be played I always play my 2nd favourite which are the Bosmer).
Here's a problem I've found so far that bothers me:
In crafting a bow (which as a Bosmer I simply HAVE to do), I need to cut up wood!
That violates the Green Pact!! Put simply, I am unable to craft the weapon I love due to the current game mechanics Did the designers of the system not think this through or something? I know the style of the Bosmer is using bone (which is correct), but it still needs maple wood or something which is problematic. Is there a lore-friendly way to permit my bow-crafting?? Thank you in advance ^.^