What Race(s) and What Faction(s) do you dislike or hate the most
Alrighty everyone has a faction(s) and Race(s) they like. I want to know just the opposite which one(s) do you dislike or hate the most and why?
Or even a race your were looking forward to playing, but now are disappointed in. In my case it's the Argonians, why is very simply. One of the best things about them was their ability to breath under water, well currently in ESO you can't do that. And are they still resistant to poison yes a little but it was the water breathing that I liked about them, it allowed them to search placed where others found it very very dangerous.
Or even a race your were looking forward to playing, but now are disappointed in. In my case it's the Argonians, why is very simply. One of the best things about them was their ability to breath under water, well currently in ESO you can't do that. And are they still resistant to poison yes a little but it was the water breathing that I liked about them, it allowed them to search placed where others found it very very dangerous.
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yoshimagitSoul ShrivenI personally hate the damn lizard people, since they cant breath under water theyre pointless lol0 -
Vikova✭✭✭✭✭I've always found any form of anthropomorphic cats creepy.
No complaints about lore, mechanics, or anything like that. Just creepy.
I mean, what if I walked by with catnip?
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yoshimagit wrote: »I personally hate the damn lizard people, since they cant breath under water theyre pointless lol
Okay so what would you race wise replace them with?
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I've always found any form of anthropomorphic cats creepy.
No complaints about lore, mechanics, or anything like that. Just creepy.
I mean, what if I walked by with catnip?
I'm thinking that is kind of what moon sugar is based off of. It's ESO industrial catnip.
And as far as the "Furry" community goes, I am hoping it doesn't go that direction in ESO. I know it has gone that way in other MMO's, so let's keep out fingers crossed .
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Vikova✭✭✭✭✭ursacorb14_ESO wrote: »I've always found any form of anthropomorphic cats creepy.
No complaints about lore, mechanics, or anything like that. Just creepy.
I mean, what if I walked by with catnip?
I'm thinking that is kind of what moon sugar is based off of. It's ESO industrial catnip.
And as far as the "Furry" community goes, I am hoping it doesn't go that direction in ESO. I know it has gone that way in other MMO's, so let's keep out fingers crossed .
Oh, I don't care if people get their freak on. I just find anthropomorphic animals creepy in general. Could be a lizard, bat, mosquito, whatever.2 -
Shimond✭✭✭✭Well you don't know that argonians can't breathe underwater in this game. I believe they can!
I don't hate on any races, I'm just swell like that.0 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭The Ebonheart storyline made me hate the Covenant on a very visceral level. >:(
I don't hate any race, but there is one I don't find particularly interesting. Orcs. I've never played one in any TES game, and I likely never will. There's nothing wrong with them: imo, it's just a question of style. I'm just drawn to the nimble and magicky races more than the big brutes.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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Sihnfahl✭✭✭✭Don't hate, just have a bias against the altmer and the Aldmeri Dominion.
The non-egotistical altmer are few and far between. The rest have the 'let me look down on the lesser races' thing going. And the AD is having the hardest time of the three addressing their racism.
It's present in DC and EP, but not as ... well, in your face. The AD's initial main questline deals with the fact that there's an entrenched group of nobles and such that are trying to oust the Queen because she's actually FRIENDLY with 'lesser' races.
DCs main questline? 'Oh, we have necromancers. And bad daedra worshippers. Azura's nice and we love Meridia. Nocturnal and Molag Bal can go sit on a pike. And more necromancers. With a side of vampires. But not THESE vampires, they're the good ones. Just THESE vampires. Oh, wait, we got more necromancers now.'
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Vikova✭✭✭✭✭It's present in DC and EP, but not as ... well, in your face. The AD's initial main questline deals with the fact that there's an entrenched group of nobles and such that are trying to oust the Queen because she's actually FRIENDLY with 'lesser' races.
DCs main questline? 'Oh, we have necromancers. And bad daedra worshippers. Azura's nice and we love Meridia. Nocturnal and Molag Bal can go sit on a pike. And more necromancers. With a side of vampires. But not THESE vampires, they're the good ones. Just THESE vampires. Oh, wait, we got more necromancers now.'
I think this is part of why I enjoy AD. Seems very political/societal. I don't really get as into "investigate this meanie cult" kind of stories.2 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
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It certainly made my Bosmer sorcerer want to start deep frying some high elves in beta.
My current Khajiit doesn't seem to mind as much, though.
Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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Sihnfahl✭✭✭✭Made my beta Khajiit nightblade want to see how THEY like seeing stretched altmer skins on the walls.0
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Cwynlaen✭✭I can't say I hate any of them. I wouldn't mind swapping my Nord's and my Orc's setting though. All the Druidry touches in the DC would mesh better with my Nord, and EP might not feel so alien to my nonhuman Orc.0 -
Azzuria✭✭✭✭✭Running a Bosmer Nightblade through Auridon has made me -loathe- the Altmer. Well, most of them, at least. Doing the quest at the 'finishing school' just sealed the deal.
I never cared for High Elves much to begin with but the Veiled Heritance quest line turned mild antipathy to active disgust.
As for the other factions, sure there is friction but even the EP's Dunmer / Argonian rift isn't nearly so hateful and vicious as that between the Altmer and -every other race, evar!-.Brunhilda Icehammer - Nord Dragonknight, 'Smith & Enchantress 'What is 'ranged? I need to hit something!!'
Laehl Direthorn - Bosmer Nightblade, Purveyor of fine Clothes, Bows and Staves
Reeza gra-Zuni - Orc Templar 'War Shaman' and Apothecary
Noemi Snowpaw - Kajiit Dragon Knight - I laugh... or I'd have to kill you.
Kitera Dreamon - Breton of The Dominion: Because those Daggers don't appreciate a great Mage.
Lysara Shadowcroft - Dunmer Bloodmage: This will only hurt a lot.2 -
Melian✭✭✭✭I hate the Altmer. Part of that prejudice was formed in Skyrim, and part of it through playing Khajiit and Bosmer characters in AD.
I don't even like the queen. She brags about how she was a warrior, but she can't fight worth a damn. She whines about "the things she endures for her people" or something when you're the one doing all the work!Edited by Melian on April 10, 2014 4:39PM0 -
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I don't like any of the beast races...at least not as PCs. Just too genre-breaking for me.ursacorb14_ESO wrote: »Alrighty everyone has a faction(s) and Race(s) they like. I want to know just the opposite which one(s) do you dislike or hate the most and why?
But if we have to have them I'm glad they are at least rendered realistically...meaning they are not cartoony in the way WoW or EQ was.
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Sihnfahl✭✭✭✭
Okay, what genre-break do you see? (Keep in mind they've been in Elder Scrolls since the beginning).SadisticSavior wrote: »But if we have to have them I'm glad they are at least rendered realistically...meaning they are not cartoony in the way WoW or EQ was.
And 'realistically' also varies. They were digitigrade in Morrowind and Oblivion, then went plantigrade for Skyrim and ESO.
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That is actually explained in Skyrim by M'iaq at some point. No way to tell if he lying or not.0
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Sihnfahl✭✭✭✭Wasn't explained. He just commented that something happened between Oblivion and Skyrim to change the stance.
Meta comment: Came from people's desire for khajiit / argonian bootsEdited by Sihnfahl on April 10, 2014 6:04PM0 -
Well, there are actually several variations of Khajiit. Suthay-raht, Suthay, Cathay, Tojan, and one or two others. I think the variation is moon dependent on the lore I have read. That of course doesn't explain the change in argonian anatomy.0
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SadisticSavior✭✭✭
Original D&D had only humanoid races, and I liked it that way.Okay, what genre-break do you see?
So what? I hate cartoony graphics. I don't care if it was done previously...I am glad to see it gone.And 'realistically' also varies. They were digitigrade in Morrowind and Oblivion, then went plantigrade for Skyrim and ESO.
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Melian✭✭✭✭SadisticSavior wrote: »
Original D&D had only humanoid races, and I liked it that way.Okay, what genre-break do you see?
So what? I hate cartoony graphics. I don't care if it was done previously...I am glad to see it gone.And 'realistically' also varies. They were digitigrade in Morrowind and Oblivion, then went plantigrade for Skyrim and ESO.
I may be wrong, but I think he meant they used to be less "cartoony" than they now are.
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Dueling did work in last beta but ending area saving didn't, but quest did open up more of thalmor arrogant behaviour so i'm hoping that on coming crime system allows to kill some of Thalmor agents.
EU - Adlmeri Dominion
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Sihnfahl✭✭✭✭
And ... this isn't D&D. Also, rakshasa.SadisticSavior wrote: »Original D&D had only humanoid races, and I liked it that way.
Cartoony was never was part of Elder Scrolls. Also, how do you define 'realistically' with a fantasy race? Either works.So what? I hate cartoony graphics. I don't care if it was done previously...I am glad to see it gone.
There are effectively 16 khajiit races, half of them bipedal, of which only two are digitigrade (that I remember). However, that doesn't explain why you don't see digitigrade khajiit in Morrowind in ESO, despite being second era (Morrowind and Oblivion being third era)pysgod1978b14_ESO wrote: »Well, there are actually several variations of Khajiit. Suthay-raht, Suthay, Cathay, Tojan, and one or two others. I think the variation is moon dependent on the lore I have read. That of course doesn't explain the change in argonian anatomy.
And no, it doesn't explain argonians.
Edited by Sihnfahl on April 10, 2014 6:22PM2 -
MaxBat✭✭✭SadisticSavior wrote: »
Original D&D had only humanoid races, and I liked it that way.Okay, what genre-break do you see?
So what? I hate cartoony graphics. I don't care if it was done previously...I am glad to see it gone.And 'realistically' also varies. They were digitigrade in Morrowind and Oblivion, then went plantigrade for Skyrim and ESO.
I may be wrong, but I think he meant they used to be less "cartoony" than they now are.
As a long time Khajiit player - back to Morrowind - I think that the best Khajiits were rendered in Skyrim - in terms of what appealed to me as realistic. When I saw the first pictures of Khajiit's in Skyrim, I was like right on! But I wasn't too disappointed in early releases. If anything, it was the poor Orcs suffered with their bright green skill in earlier releases - and they, too, looked awesome in Skyrim.
I actually the race I disliked in Morrowind and Oblivion - and continue to dislike - wood elves. Oh, I know, they have a better appearance now but their dietary choices make me nauseous.
Edited by MaxBat on April 10, 2014 6:35PM"Funny that magic doesn't work when a mace caves in your skull."
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