Explain resto staff to me

Lynx7386
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How does this weapon work for soloing? What is the attack actually doing? is it a viable weapon to specialize in for soloing purposes, or for two-man levelling/questing?

I'm considering trying out the nightblade healer everyone's raving about, kind of a shadow priest using siphoning and resto staff attacks, I just have never used a resto staff and i'm a bit confused as to how it really works.

Would a destruction staff be better for soloing?
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  • Thesiren
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    Like other staves, Resto staves do damage without draining your magicka, but wielding a Resto staff also gives you access to a direct heal and a heal over time through the Resto staff skill line. It's in with the other weapons in your skills list. You can put skill points into those two.

    I currently have a Resto staff-wielding sorcerer and I like her very much. I'm considering one for my Nightblade next, yeah, because she's having more trouble than the rest at staying alive for long. And the bow...forget it. It's too slow and awkward, for me anyway.
    Edited by Thesiren on April 8, 2014 2:14AM
  • Cave_Canem
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    There's more than enough skill points in the game to master two weapons, why not go for both?
  • ThatHappyCat
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    The Restoration staff's basic attack is weak compared to the Destruction staff, but it has one critical advantage: its heavy attack restores 10% of your magicka. This makes the Resto staff the number one choice for magicka-focused characters, even if you don't plan to heal. It also has great survivability skills like Regeneration and Blessing of Protection.
  • alanqtrmaine
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    I have a Noob Question. I'm at lvl 4 currently, when did you find the resto staff. Also where did you find it. Merchant or Quest? Just wondering. I currently have bow and not wanting to spend points on it.
  • dannomite82
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    Resto staff heavy hit also heals you and your allies for a percentage of the damage (with appropriate passive skills)
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  • Mortuum
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    Restoration staffs can be find in same way as all other items: quest reward (starting island for Daggerfall gives green rest staff on lvl 3), drops from mobs or craft. On your level it use really not much materials, so if you want to start restoration staff skill line, simply craft it yourself, you can craft all tier 1 items in all crafts without spending skill points. Find some maple wood, woodworking station, and your restoration staff is ready to use.
  • MaxBat
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    Mortuum wrote: »
    Restoration staffs can be find in same way as all other items ...

    If you get lucky, you can get one in the Wailing dungeon. I've found one in the drops during the Eye dungeon (where the flame atronachs are).


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  • SexyVette07
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    One thing ive never understood is that you can attack enemies with it, but when you use it on your allies and hold down the left mouse button, it looks like its healing, but it isnt... is it?
  • malais
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    A butter knife is better for soloing than the resto staff.

    Resto staff is meant for heals and support not your main dps solo.

    I never even equipped one until I hit 15 and could weapon swap.
  • Shimond
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    One thing ive never understood is that you can attack enemies with it, but when you use it on your allies and hold down the left mouse button, it looks like its healing, but it isnt... is it?

    No the left click is a damage ability, though you can get the passive that makes the heavy hit heal surrounding allies.

    Also, it's not bad as an offensive weapon with the magica restore. Since you can use the magica you get back from heavy attacks to power more skills. Really depends on your build and what you're doing.
  • SexyVette07
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    malais wrote: »
    A butter knife is better for soloing than the resto staff.

    Resto staff is meant for heals and support not your main dps solo.

    I never even equipped one until I hit 15 and could weapon swap.

    Thats not true. If you only use class abilities, the resto staff is the clear winner because of its passives. 10% more damage with all spells, 10% mana regen on heavy hits, AND you can use healing spells with it.
  • SexyVette07
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    Shimond wrote: »
    One thing ive never understood is that you can attack enemies with it, but when you use it on your allies and hold down the left mouse button, it looks like its healing, but it isnt... is it?

    No the left click is a damage ability, though you can get the passive that makes the heavy hit heal surrounding allies.

    Also, it's not bad as an offensive weapon with the magica restore. Since you can use the magica you get back from heavy attacks to power more skills. Really depends on your build and what you're doing.
    So what the hell is it doing when im using it on an ally? Just being waved around and glowing but doing absolutely nothing? If so, thats ***. Why even add that to the game. Its incredibly misleading.
  • Shimond
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    So what the hell is it doing when im using it on an ally? Just being waved around and glowing but doing absolutely nothing? If so, thats ***. Why even add that to the game. Its incredibly misleading.

    Yea the effect is misleading with that weapon, but it's the same thing as hitting/holding the left click with any other weapon - still performs the animation even when you don't have a target.
  • Mabh
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    Holding down LMB while at range regens magica and you'll see the stick twirling.

  • karmamule
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    Since the siphoning skill line is magicka-based it can work well for a nightblade too. Mine switches between 1 hand/shield and resto staff as his two weapon sets. I can stealth in, hit hard, then start acting as healer. Having fun!
  • Thete
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    I'm not sure about expecting much in the way of damage from it, but I have switched to resto staff a couple of times when tackling a quest mob that was a bit too tricky for me to kill conventionally. I basically poked it to death.
  • Aellikor
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    I never expected to use a Resto Staff much, and that's as a Light Armor Templar. Ha! - showed how much I knew. I have been gleefully resto-blasting baddies since Level 10 with mace and shield on swap (which I love).

    Staff is adequate damage in combination with Templar spells and abilities. It's group value is great so far. However, I am speaking from world monster groups and Spindle healing experience at this point. It's light attack feels a little too slow, and I don't use that much. The passive Essence Drain healing skill and Mana boost on heavy attack works well.
  • Nanigae
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    Sorc here. I switch between destro and resto. You need to put a skill point into a heal to use it for heal and that is a spell, not just a "point staff at an ally" and the heal works on you as well as pet. With a pet out, it's very useful for much soloing. I use the destro for dungeons/extra adds.
  • SexyVette07
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    Mabh wrote: »
    Holding down LMB while at range regens magica and you'll see the stick twirling.

    Wait, seriously? Im going to have to check this out.


    Why does this game not tell you any of this.....
  • Tandor
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    Why does this game not tell you any of this.....

    Because this is a game that doesn't hold your hand every step of the way, and hooray for that - much overdue!

  • Victoria150
    So is it right that the heavy attack regenerates Magicka? If it does this seems a potent effect.

    I have been trying to research this but the information around seems contradictory. I can see some of the passive skills that grant health regeneration in certain circumstances but nothing on this.
  • Shimond
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    So is it right that the heavy attack regenerates Magicka? If it does this seems a potent effect.

    I have been trying to research this but the information around seems contradictory. I can see some of the passive skills that grant health regeneration in certain circumstances but nothing on this.

    Default heavy attack when it connects with a target (has to be an enemy, not player) will give you magica back. It's not a passive or skill you need to learn, it's a core ability of the restoration staff.
  • SexyVette07
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Why does this game not tell you any of this.....

    Because this is a game that doesn't hold your hand every step of the way, and hooray for that - much overdue!
    Theres a big difference between holding your hand and not telling you at all how it works and any bonuses it might have.
  • Victoria150
    Default heavy attack when it connects with a target (has to be an enemy, not player) will give you magica back. It's not a passive or skill you need to learn, it's a core ability of the restoration staff.

    Thanks. I'm going to try one this very evening. Super clear explanation, cheers.
    Edited by Victoria150 on April 10, 2014 7:55PM
  • Tamisan
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    Grand Healing morphed to Healing Springs regenerates 100 magicka for each ally healed
    Force Siphon morphed to Siphon Spirit adds magicka to player and allies
    I know now what I was born to do.
    ―Martin Septim
  • Shimond
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    Theres a big difference between holding your hand and not telling you at all how it works and any bonuses it might have.

    Yea only way I knew about it was overhearing someone else say it and then trying it myself. I'm guessing the only way whoever first discovered it knew was by just more closely monitoring their magica (granted it's pretty obvious once you realize what's causing it). I don't see how putting that in a tooltip (maybe when you first equip a resto staff) would somehow be holding your hand or game breaking.
  • Sleepwalker
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    malais wrote: »
    A butter knife is better for soloing than the resto staff.

    Resto staff is meant for heals and support not your main dps solo.

    I never even equipped one until I hit 15 and could weapon swap.

    Ha! True that a resto staff is meant to allow you to heal and provide support to groups, but it's not only for healing and support. While it does damage, it's best to think of it as a boon to the rest of your arsenal rather than a direct dps source. Also, it provides better resource management than any of the other tools in your holster. One would be wise to not mock such a weapon. :)

    Nightblade healer here. I have a resto staff in both weapon slots, and I use them well.

    Edited by Sleepwalker on April 10, 2014 8:16PM
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  • ThatHappyCat
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    Tamisan wrote: »
    Grand Healing morphed to Healing Springs regenerates 100 magicka for each ally healed

    Don't quote ESOHead, their numbers are way off.
  • NordJitsu
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    Lol @ "Resto staff isn't good for DPS."

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  • delphwind_ESO
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    I am a fully spec'd resto staff templar healer and often times can drop a tremendous amount of damage if I so choose. The trick is to use the damage bonus you get from Solar Flare, along with the multi-target DD and DoT from Sun Flare. Also remember the spell power buff you get from casting Solar Flare also increases your next healing spell, so tossing out that big nuke before dropping a large heal is worth it if you have the time.

    I am pleasantly surprised at the number of people that are using the resto staff in conjunction with a DPS build. Please keep in mind that Restoration stacks. I was in a group the other day with a tank and a DPS that would both drop Regeneration on the group before engaging. With the mod that shows healing ticks I could see all 3 ticking and healing the entire group, it was an insane amount of healing.
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