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Solo Difficulty Level

  • Firestar1992
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    I finally killed Doshia at level 20. When I tried at level 15 or so, I tried smashing the bubbles as has been suggested, but all I managed was a stalemate. I would get some of them, which would heal me, but others would reach her and heal her.
    Now I'm having trouble on Stormhaven. It's more or less the final boss of the area, a 5-stage boss with no real recovery time in between. And in stage 4, the boss casts a snare spell that prevents the use of abilities and makes me move extremely slowly. It almost requires you to be a long-range fighter. When I manage to get through that stage, I always die on stage 5. Another part of the problem is I would periodically get tremendous frame rate issues. It would get down to less than 3 fps for about a minute.
  • Noth
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    All I can say to those that find the game difficult now, just wait till you start doing veteran content. It will really make you rage quit.
  • Firestar1992
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    This is why veteran level is traditionally done in groups, as far as I understand. lol
  • Zordrage
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    lol i did not had a prob at that boss with my Night blade

    i only died once

    i just invis cc nuke invis cc nuke and was keep doing this nothing else killed it in like what 20 sec ? i was like 1 lvl higher lol i did not cared abbout orbs or anything just simply killed it.........

    i done the WHOLE zone Everything and never had a prob except the group dungeon with the spider now that was annoying....... everything else was a walk in the park....
    Edited by Zordrage on April 12, 2014 7:23AM
  • Noth
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    This is why veteran level is traditionally done in groups, as far as I understand. lol

    Veteran content is meant to be soloable outside of the content specifically for groups (such as the instanced dungeons or public group dungeons). Later VR ranks you are probably expected to group unless you have a min/maxed build and/or are a very good player.
  • rawne1980b16_ESO
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    Doshia doesn't bother me so much .... her higher level "twins" however ... especially the ones in the graveyard before the final quest in coldharbour ... get right on my manly breasts.

    Those and the Gargoyles in Alik'r that you need to harvest a tongue from.

  • Imryll
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    Last time I killed Doshia (on a level 12 sorc) she died before she could summon any bubbles. If your character has strong burst and weaker AoE, you might want to try that approach. Personally, I was disappointed because I felt I missed out on the fight.

    If it had been our first meeting, I'd also have missed out on the warning she signals that I need to have a plan in place for handling adds.
    Edited by Imryll on April 13, 2014 2:08AM
  • fantom
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    If you are having problems beating any quest in this game that you are overleveled for, it's a PEBKAC issue, not a game issue.

    Everything is perfectly beatable using nothing but quest gear and the skills you're given. If you aren't skilled at the game, practice getting better, not whining on the forums and trying to sound smart by talking philosophy.

    Doshia really isn't that hard, but it will surprise you the first time you fight her and you'll probably die. The key is LEARNING from that experience and IMPROVING yourself, not giving up after bashing your head against a wall.
  • Firestar1992
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    fantom wrote: »
    If you are having problems beating any quest in this game that you are overleveled for, it's a PEBKAC issue, not a game issue.

    Everything is perfectly beatable using nothing but quest gear and the skills you're given. If you aren't skilled at the game, practice getting better, not whining on the forums and trying to sound smart by talking philosophy.

    Doshia really isn't that hard, but it will surprise you the first time you fight her and you'll probably die. The key is LEARNING from that experience and IMPROVING yourself, not giving up after bashing your head against a wall.

    Believe me when I say, I wouldn't have posted this if I hadn't had multiple others who I play with--who are all better gamers than I am--agreed that these quests are much harder than any of us at level 8 could beat. There are at least three or four of us in agreement on this.
  • jeradlub17_ESO
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    So, in the field of Education, we are taught about this guy named Vygotsky, who came up with this theory called the "zone of proximal development." This is the idea that in order to encourage learning, we should push students just slightly beyond what they are comfortable with. If we keep them in their comfort zone, they never learn anything new. If we push them too far before they're ready, they will quit. The way they learn fastest is to set their goal just beyond what they think they can reach.
    Obviously, the ESO developers have never studied Vygotsky. I am now level 15, nearly 16. There is still one level 8 fighter's guild quest that is impossible to beat for my class. (Nightblade.) And now I have a main quest with an enemy labeled level 16. This SHOULD, according to Vygotsky, be within the zone of proximal development. Although it is tough, a level 15 should be able to beat it. This idea is encouraged by the fact that I was given the quest in the first place. However, no matter what I do, I still end up getting ruthlessly murdered each and every time I try it.
    Devs, on the next update, please adjust the difficulty settings for these quests, or else give a warning that they are at a higher level than what you may be prepared for.

    Solo difficulty is just fine. You just need to learn to play that class or pick a different one that suits your style better.
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  • 7788b14_ESO
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    On some characters before I got into crafting weapons and gear, I would die up to 5 times before I worked out the pattern to defeat them. Death is not such a big thing in this game so it's a good way to work on tactics.
  • 7788b14_ESO
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    fantom wrote: »
    If you are having problems beating any quest in this game that you are overleveled for, it's a PEBKAC issue, not a game issue.

    Everything is perfectly beatable using nothing but quest gear and the skills you're given. If you aren't skilled at the game, practice getting better, not whining on the forums and trying to sound smart by talking philosophy.

    Doshia really isn't that hard, but it will surprise you the first time you fight her and you'll probably die. The key is LEARNING from that experience and IMPROVING yourself, not giving up after bashing your head against a wall.

    Believe me when I say, I wouldn't have posted this if I hadn't had multiple others who I play with--who are all better gamers than I am--agreed that these quests are much harder than any of us at level 8 could beat. There are at least three or four of us in agreement on this.

    I really think that some of those level 8 bosses are elites. but once you know what they do you can beat them, or just come back later over leveled. Quest will be there waiting for you.
    Edited by 7788b14_ESO on April 13, 2014 4:53AM
  • Zordrage
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    On some characters before I got into crafting weapons and gear, I would die up to 5 times before I worked out the pattern to defeat them. Death is not such a big thing in this game so it's a good way to work on tactics.

    gear repair that costs thousands of gold is a big deal at low lvl........
  • Alyrn_Grey
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    My level 11 Dragon Knight useing sword and shield took her out. It took about 20 - 25 minutes but I took her out with only 1 death early on before I rememberd target the orbs and get healed.

    In beta I took her out with the same character at level 9 using a bow in about 2 minutes.
  • Chrisu
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    Doshia is really easy if you interrupt her transformation xD But that was probably a bug.
  • strelnikov
    The orbs get everyone.. THEY are the single most effective way of making the fight insane yet fun.. Some of the Morphing things can help too the fan of knives can take them out or the wide area attacks with arrows. I am on my level 30 quest now. remember what you have learned vestige. It will do you in good stead
  • LonePirate
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    I am now level 40 and I honestly cannot remember a single solo instanced fight that is easier than it should have been, especially when played at the same level. For people who think the game is too easy, there are numerous ooptions available to make the game more challenging such as removing armor, switching to a weapon with no/few unlocked skills, not consuming food or potion buffs, etc. For people who think the game is too difficult, the only in game option is waiting until you greatly outlevel the encounter and them hope for the best. That disparity in the number of options available portends rough waters ahead for ZOS if they want to maintain large numbers of casual players. They will not keep playing if they lose every single battle and cannot progress.
  • Kellhus
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    Have to love this logic -- I can't beat something, so it's too hard.

    Consider changing your approach? Or are you so used to being handed free wins for spelling your name right (ala WoW) that you are completely incapable of problem solving?

  • LonePirate
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    Kellhus wrote: »
    Have to love this logic -- I can't beat something, so it's too hard.

    Consider changing your approach? Or are you so used to being handed free wins for spelling your name right (ala WoW) that you are completely incapable of problem solving?

    Why are you assuming the player has not tried alternative methods and tactics? That is being a bit presumptuous given the lack of specifics involved here.
  • Kellhus
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Kellhus wrote: »
    Have to love this logic -- I can't beat something, so it's too hard.

    Consider changing your approach? Or are you so used to being handed free wins for spelling your name right (ala WoW) that you are completely incapable of problem solving?

    Why are you assuming the player has not tried alternative methods and tactics? That is being a bit presumptuous given the lack of specifics involved here.

    Because of the literally hundreds of people who have beat the content? Are you saying it's just too hard for THIS one person, or handful of people? Can we make an assumption that they are all at least playing the same game, with all of this content having been beat, so there is something they are doing, or not doing, that other players didnt seem to have the same issue with?
  • Alyrn_Grey
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    Kellhus wrote: »
    Have to love this logic -- I can't beat something, so it's too hard.

    Consider changing your approach? Or are you so used to being handed free wins for spelling your name right (ala WoW) that you are completely incapable of problem solving?

    Heh I remember the uber boss from cheesemongers hollow in beta. They tamed him way way down in live. Anyway that one taught me to stop, think, and try different weapons and tactics. You don't even need skills on the weapons just have them handy.

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