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No CC, No Paypal account can't activate "free" 30 days. Refund question

Excyte
Excyte
So i have no CC and no paypal account, how can i get granted ... How can i get the 30 days game time i paid for without those two? I depend on Gift cards for internet purchases so i was basically planning to buy GTCs IF i wanted to renew again.

So i have to buy a GTC and then hope i'll still like the game and be able to play the whole next month?

Also, how do i get a refund if i can't activate those 30 days?

Edited by Excyte on April 6, 2014 9:27PM
  • muumumueb17_ESO
    Same question!
  • sternzyub17_ESO
    I would like to know as well.
  • sternzyub17_ESO
    p.s. I tried four different registered pre-paid cards and none of them worked.

    I am not going out and buying game time to access the free 30 day period. If that is the case I would Like a refund.
  • Cowkiller
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    send ESO_Help@elderscrollsonline.com a e-mail asking for a refund
    must have bought from the site if u bought from a store sorry your out of luck
    Edited by Cowkiller on April 6, 2014 9:36PM
  • Wow
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    "We want everyone who purchased ESO to have immediate access to the included 30 days ofESO game time. In the event that you enter your payment information for authorization and the transaction cancels due to lack of funds in your account, please contact our Support Team. We'll work with you to ensure you have access to your included 30 days of game time."

    I messaged the support, hope it could work out somehow.
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  • ragerelor
    ragerelor
    I am with you on this, If this issue is not resolved I will want a refund.

  • Excyte
    Excyte
    By email? This could take days to activate what should have been already since day 1

    If anything they're holding hostage something i paid for and the only way to free it is to buy more. Make no sense at all.
    Edited by Excyte on April 6, 2014 9:52PM
  • Excyte
    Excyte
    Ok i emailed them a copy(kinda) of this thread then i got this *** reply, i bolded the best part



    "Greetings, Adventurer!


    Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online Team.

    I am sorry that you are having this issue with your game. I have found that when a player has this issue it is actually regarding the game registration key. The following paragraph is what I have found to fix your issue.

    If this does not work please respond to my email and I will assist you further.

    Players that have not yet applied their Game Registration Code to their account and selected a subscription plan will receive the "Your login information was incorrect." error when attempting to log into the game. As of 5:00 p.m. EST (11:00 CEST) on 4/6/14, it is now required that all players have their Game Registration Code applied and a subscription plan selected.
    Should a player receive this error when attempting to log into their account at account.elderscrollsonline.com, please verify that the credientials being used to log in are the UserID and password, not the e-mail address and password.


    You can also find this information in our knowledge base, which we consistently update with any changes. Use the following link for the most up-to-date information regarding your question:

    http://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/home?region=US/track/AvOixQq_Dv8S~cC7Grse~yILebMqPi75Mv~Z~zj~PP8Q

    Currently, the best way to keep an eye out for upcoming news about The Elder Scrolls Online is to watch our official page and social channels:

    http://elderscrollsonline.com
    https://www.facebook.com/ElderScrollsOnline
    http://www.twitter.com/TESOnline
    http://plus.google.com/+ElderScrollsOnline

    Thank you for your continued interest and support!
    "
    I can't subscribe at all, i don't have a CC and paypal account. I was planning to buy GTCs to renew but i'm NOT gonna buy one now just to get those 30 days. I can't plan 2 month ahead to play video games.

    Any way to refund the game? If i can't free those 30 days held hostage. (Buying time to free time, does that even make sense? No it doesn't, like this subscription system)
  • otomodachi
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    "Response By Email (newp) (04/06/2014 08:00 PM)
    Greetings!
    I'm sorry that you feel this way about the game. I know that there are some issues presently with it, but they are hard at work fixing the issues that come up. I would (sic) give up yet!

    For the refund policy for online games, usually after a certain amount of time, you are not able to refund it (virtual items/games/etc). I've had this happen a few times to me and I ended up having to keep a game that I did not want.

    I will migrate this ticket to the folks going through refund requests. I can't guarantee they will be able to refund, but if they can, we'll process your refund for you.

    Regards,
    (repnamedoesn'tmatterdoesit?)
    The Elder Scrolls Online Team"

    What this SAYS to me is whoever was answering my mail up til now does not work directly for ZO or they would have access to a refund policy by now.
    Edited by otomodachi on April 7, 2014 1:09AM
    What do you gain by criticizing a CSR complaint?
  • Gierolf_Whitecoatb16_ESO
    pretty much, they responded to my email by sending my email back to me and marking as solved.
  • otomodachi
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    pretty much, they responded to my email by sending my email back to me and marking as solved.

    EXACT same thing that happened to me with my refund ticket, opened at 8:20 am 4.4.14 EST.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/70000/incident-140404-014206-why-was-my-ticket-changed-to-solved-without-solving-anything#latest
    What do you gain by criticizing a CSR complaint?
  • BeeK
    BeeK
    They are probably swarmed with folks who bought this game under the assumption that they could play a paid subscription MMO for free without actually having a billing account. Nowhere in the history of MMO's would I ever expect to try and do such a thing, but I will not fault you brave, troubled souls for trying. I always said MMO's went downhill since World of Warcraft, and this proves it. Look at it on the bright side --at least now you won't end up disappointed after the 30 days elapses, wishing you could afford a subscription...


    There's always FTP games available. Better luck next time.
  • Botak
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    BeeK wrote: »
    They are probably swarmed with folks who bought this game under the assumption that they could play a paid subscription MMO for free without actually having a billing account. Nowhere in the history of MMO's would I ever expect to try and do such a thing, but I will not fault you brave, troubled souls for trying. I always said MMO's went downhill since World of Warcraft, and this proves it. Look at it on the bright side --at least now you won't end up disappointed after the 30 days elapses, wishing you could afford a subscription...


    There's always FTP games available. Better luck next time.

    You not answering the question.
  • Excyte
    Excyte
    ok i replied a bit aggressively but far less worst than my previous draft. I had to do his job. I think they got a lot of volunteers in the rep today?
    Ok you're not even trying to help at all, you're supposed to direct me to that thread and then fix my problem the way it's described in there.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/67461/bank-account-being-charged/p1

    "We want everyone who purchased ESO to have immediate access to the included 30 days of ESO game time. In the event that you enter your payment information for authorization and the transaction cancels due to lack of funds in your account, please contact our Support Team. We’ll work with you to ensure you have access to your included 30 days of game time."

    And no i'm not a Rep inspector, i'm a unhappy customer that may ask a refund.
    Edited by Excyte on April 7, 2014 1:46AM
  • zshadez_ESO
    It's a MMO. This is fairly standard. You should have done a tiny bit of research on how MMO subscriptions usually work beforehand. It says on the site and box both that a valid subscription is required. Your own refusal to read the words or inability to comprehend them is not Zenimax's fault.
  • Excyte
    Excyte
    Are you kidding me? Do you even read? Are you troll?

    ME PAY GAME 60$$$$ WITH 1 MONTH NO CC NO PAYPAL MUST USE GTC TO GET ALREADY PAID FIRST 30 DAYS SUBSCRIPTION. I CANT PLAY CANT ACTIVE CODE I PAID FOR.... ME ANGRY ME SMASH ZENIMAX

    PAY TO GET WHAT I PAID FOR

    BUY JUICE, NO MORE SMALL CUPS, MAKE ME BUY ANOTHER JUICE TO FILL A BIGGER CUP ME NOT THAT THIRSTY

    MY RESERVED TABLE IS BLOCKED BY ANOTHER TABLE MUST RESERVE THAT TABLE TO GET TO MY FIRST RESERVED TABLE ME NO WANT 2 RESERVED TABLE

    I BUY A CHOCOLATE BAR, CASHIER NO GIVE ME MY CHOCOLATE HE ASK ME TO BUY ANOTHER CHOCOLATE BAR. BUT I CANT BUY THE SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR YET SO HE KEEP THE CHOCOLATE BAR I PAID UNTIL I CAN BUY SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR

    I BUY A CAR, SELLER CHAINED IT TO ANOTHER CAR MUST BUY THE OTHER CAR TO MOVE MY CAR ME NO WANT 2 CARS ME ONLY HAVE 1 PARKING FOR NOW


    Is that simplistic enough understand now?
  • Laura
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    Excyte wrote: »
    Are you kidding me? Do you even read? Are you troll?

    ME PAY GAME 60$$$$ WITH 1 MONTH NO CC NO PAYPAL MUST USE GTC TO GET ALREADY PAID FIRST 30 DAYS SUBSCRIPTION. I CANT PLAY CANT ACTIVE CODE I PAID FOR.... ME ANGRY ME SMASH ZENIMAX

    PAY TO GET WHAT I PAID FOR

    BUY JUICE, NO MORE SMALL CUPS, MAKE ME BUY ANOTHER JUICE TO FILL A BIGGER CUP ME NOT THAT THIRSTY

    MY RESERVED TABLE IS BLOCKED BY ANOTHER TABLE MUST RESERVE THAT TABLE TO GET TO MY FIRST RESERVED TABLE ME NO WANT 2 RESERVED TABLE

    I BUY A CHOCOLATE BAR, CASHIER NO GIVE ME MY CHOCOLATE HE ASK ME TO BUY ANOTHER CHOCOLATE BAR. BUT I CANT BUY THE SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR YET SO HE KEEP THE CHOCOLATE BAR I PAID UNTIL I CAN BUY SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR

    I BUY A CAR, SELLER CHAINED IT TO ANOTHER CAR MUST BUY THE OTHER CAR TO MOVE MY CAR ME NO WANT 2 CARS ME ONLY HAVE 1 PARKING FOR NOW


    Is that simplistic enough understand now?


    I think this individual's caps lock key might indicate that he is angry.
    Edited by Laura on April 7, 2014 2:42AM
  • SimplySkeeter
    Flag and Report Beek. He is trolling ALL the forums saying stupid crap
  • otomodachi
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    Laura wrote: »
    Excyte wrote: »
    Are you kidding me? Do you even read? Are you troll?

    ME PAY GAME 60$$$$ WITH 1 MONTH NO CC NO PAYPAL MUST USE GTC TO GET ALREADY PAID FIRST 30 DAYS SUBSCRIPTION. I CANT PLAY CANT ACTIVE CODE I PAID FOR.... ME ANGRY ME SMASH ZENIMAX

    PAY TO GET WHAT I PAID FOR

    BUY JUICE, NO MORE SMALL CUPS, MAKE ME BUY ANOTHER JUICE TO FILL A BIGGER CUP ME NOT THAT THIRSTY

    MY RESERVED TABLE IS BLOCKED BY ANOTHER TABLE MUST RESERVE THAT TABLE TO GET TO MY FIRST RESERVED TABLE ME NO WANT 2 RESERVED TABLE

    I BUY A CHOCOLATE BAR, CASHIER NO GIVE ME MY CHOCOLATE HE ASK ME TO BUY ANOTHER CHOCOLATE BAR. BUT I CANT BUY THE SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR YET SO HE KEEP THE CHOCOLATE BAR I PAID UNTIL I CAN BUY SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR

    I BUY A CAR, SELLER CHAINED IT TO ANOTHER CAR MUST BUY THE OTHER CAR TO MOVE MY CAR ME NO WANT 2 CARS ME ONLY HAVE 1 PARKING FOR NOW


    Is that simplistic enough understand now?


    I think this individual's caps lock key might indicate that he is angry.

    Man, this would be the perfect place for a Buffy gif. :(
    What do you gain by criticizing a CSR complaint?
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    It's a MMO. This is fairly standard. You should have done a tiny bit of research on how MMO subscriptions usually work beforehand. It says on the site and box both that a valid subscription is required. Your own refusal to read the words or inability to comprehend them is not Zenimax's fault.

    Actually, no. This is not standard procedure. Rift didn't do it, neither did the largest MMO on the market (world of warcraft) so people need to stop saying this as if it invalidates any complaints about zenimax forcing players to provide a valid payment plan just to access the time they paid for when purchasing the game.
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

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    "Fear can claim what little faith remains."
    "Death will take those who fight alone."
    "But united we can break a fate once set in stone."

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  • yRaz
    yRaz
    Laura wrote: »
    Excyte wrote: »
    Are you kidding me? Do you even read? Are you troll?

    ME PAY GAME 60$$$$ WITH 1 MONTH NO CC NO PAYPAL MUST USE GTC TO GET ALREADY PAID FIRST 30 DAYS SUBSCRIPTION. I CANT PLAY CANT ACTIVE CODE I PAID FOR.... ME ANGRY ME SMASH ZENIMAX

    PAY TO GET WHAT I PAID FOR

    BUY JUICE, NO MORE SMALL CUPS, MAKE ME BUY ANOTHER JUICE TO FILL A BIGGER CUP ME NOT THAT THIRSTY

    MY RESERVED TABLE IS BLOCKED BY ANOTHER TABLE MUST RESERVE THAT TABLE TO GET TO MY FIRST RESERVED TABLE ME NO WANT 2 RESERVED TABLE

    I BUY A CHOCOLATE BAR, CASHIER NO GIVE ME MY CHOCOLATE HE ASK ME TO BUY ANOTHER CHOCOLATE BAR. BUT I CANT BUY THE SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR YET SO HE KEEP THE CHOCOLATE BAR I PAID UNTIL I CAN BUY SECOND CHOCOLATE BAR

    I BUY A CAR, SELLER CHAINED IT TO ANOTHER CAR MUST BUY THE OTHER CAR TO MOVE MY CAR ME NO WANT 2 CARS ME ONLY HAVE 1 PARKING FOR NOW


    Is that simplistic enough understand now?


    I think this individual's caps lock key might indicate that he is angry.

    I think this individual has a right to be angry

  • Mataata
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    Yeah.. Really upset that I can't play my included 30 days unless I pay again for a subscription. I have every plan to continue playing after those 30 days, but I just don't have the money for it right now and would love it if I could play without having to pay again so soon.
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  • BeeK
    BeeK
    Botak wrote: »
    You not answering the question.

    There are no Time Code Cards available at this current time, from what I can ascertain. There will be in the near future, however. What this means, is that you will have to find a way to meet the requirements to set up your billing account/payment method if you wish to start playing immediately.
    Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on April 7, 2014 3:33AM
  • yRaz
    yRaz
    It's a MMO. This is fairly standard. You should have done a tiny bit of research on how MMO subscriptions usually work beforehand. It says on the site and box both that a valid subscription is required. Your own refusal to read the words or inability to comprehend them is not Zenimax's fault.

    Actually, no. This is not standard procedure. Rift didn't do it, neither did the largest MMO on the market (world of warcraft) so people need to stop saying this as if it invalidates any complaints about zenimax forcing players to provide a valid payment plan just to access the time they paid for when purchasing the game.

    I guess my debit card is no longer valid. I used it once to pay for the game but now that there isn't enough money on it for a second month it isn't valid.

    This practice is punishing people who live paycheck to paycheck. I don't believe they are intentionally hurting consumers, but that is the end result of these policies.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    yRaz wrote: »

    I guess my debit card is no longer valid. I used it once to pay for the game but now that there isn't enough money on it for a second month it isn't valid.

    This practice is punishing people who live paycheck to paycheck. I don't believe they are intentionally hurting consumers, but that is the end result of these policies.

    Not only that, it punishes players that do not have bank accounts or credit cards or those that do not want to link their personal finances to an online game for security purposes. And then there's people like me that are in transition between banks,

    I had my credit cards cancelled and my bank account closed out while I get everything transferred over to a credit union, so my paypal is unlinked as well. I ordered a time card through amazon expecting it to be here in around launch, turns out it won't be available until the end of the month if not longer.

    Amazon actually refunded me the shipping cost, and upgraded it to the fastest shipping(when they'll actually get them) and took off 5 dollars from my initial purchase. So I paid $24.99 for the card. Not that it does me any good until CS decides to do something for me.
    Edited by Arsenic_Touch on April 7, 2014 3:01AM
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

    ╔═════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ══════════════╗
    "Hope can drown lost in thunderous sound."
    "Fear can claim what little faith remains."
    "Death will take those who fight alone."
    "But united we can break a fate once set in stone."

    ╚═════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ══════════════╝

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  • greeat-scottb14_ESO
    jugheads saying I told you so: I have never had to lay down a credit card to play an MMO. If I stay interested in a game - I use time cards. No database is safe or secure and just about all of them have been hacked. Up till a few years ago - the standard physical copies came with an AUTOMATIC 30 days applied to an account. Even with the digital downloads now - the initial purchases have no requirements. I've played them all. This is the first magnitude of ridickulon I have ever experienced. And I used to get on SOE's back all the time about unprofessionalism. SOE are Harvard grads compared to this circus.
  • Cormacr
    Cormacr
    When I pre-ordered this game I made a point of asking if it came with any time, and I was told 30 days worth of free play. Then they gave me a little box that did not include the warning about requiring a valid payment method. That was only on the box for the full game.

    People's opinions will vary as to whether or not this is deceptive, but it is yet another reason to balk at buying this product. I know I am not happy and will be warning my friends who are contemplating getting this game about it.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    It says free 30 days only with a subscription plan in place. It doesnt say you get free 30 days to register your payment info. If you have no credit card go buy a prepaid one. Simple.
  • Excyte
    Excyte
    So to get what i paid for you tell me i must buy something? omg that is really simple.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Excyte wrote: »
    So to get what i paid for you tell me i must buy something? omg that is really simple.

    The only thing simple here is you. How dense can you possibly be? It says you MUST setup a sub to get the free 30 days. You are NOT required to spend a DIME. Just put in the info.

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