Official Discussion Thread for "Battle For The Writhing Wall Event Info"

LarsS · October 14

The drop rate has to go up though, after a little more than 1 day on pc/EU we are ar 3,6 %, that implies that the first phase will take 28 days. I don't think may will stay on that long. It would also mean that eastern solstice wont even be available when the console update is released, we would probably just start phase 2!

JumboWheat01 · October 14

Experiencing TERRIBLE drop rates for both the Resupply and Souls gathering quests. Sometimes it takes me several minutes, sometimes it takes me an hour.

Sure, it doesn't help since we're competing with other players for the same resource, but the swinginess of the RNG drops is moving beyond annoying.

WolfStark1 · October 14

JumboWheat01 wrote: »

Experiencing TERRIBLE drop rates for both the Resupply and Souls gathering quests. Sometimes it takes me several minutes, sometimes it takes me an hour.

Sure, it doesn't help since we're competing with other players for the same resource, but the swinginess of the RNG drops is moving beyond annoying.

It took me over an hour yesterday to get 8 furs and I went all over the map to get away from the crowds. I did hear others say yesterday its better to group because when one gets it then it counts for all in group.

Smitch_59 · October 14

Bad event. Too many players chasing too few resources.

kind_hero · October 14

SnakeDodger wrote: »

The FOMO one time event thing is such a bad idea, there needs to be a serious consideration into making this avaliable again in some form or another. People have already said the main points - ESO plus subscribers devalued + Artificial 'Historic' moment + The event being locked behind a dlc that continues the main quest.

To that last point, anyone who hasn't been playing for years will be left behind, and considering the structure of ESO's main quest, which has you ideally completing every alliance's Zone Quests first for the returning NPCs in coldharbor, getting to that MQ completion could take like 400 hours.

The 'play it your way' ideal is tossed out of the window here, you either buy the pass and ignore everything else about your playthrough or you miss it forever, apparently.

From what I am experiencing with this event, FOMO is not justified here... It is just another grind holiday event, you are not really missing anything, like a DLC that you'll never play again, but some areas which are part of the event. There are hundreds of quests in the game that happen in interesting places you can't revisit after completing the quest. After a year, none will care about this event. There are so many similar events with loads of collectibles and tickets etc.

The devs presented this as some major big thing, because of course, they worked a lot on it, but as an experience it doesn't impress me as much as the release of the dragons in the Elsweyr debut. Maybe it's my preference, since the game has so many daedra and cultists, this theme is very boring to me.

LarsS · October 14

Its easy to do the farming quests if you group up, since you share drops.

laniakea_0 · October 14

Ingenon wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

E_Lucan wrote: »

This might be a silly question, but it's happened to me three times now that an event to "defend the camp" has started in a camp I was in, only for all the enemies to despawn in like two seconds. Is this meant to happen? We are waiting around for 15+ minutes for the camp event to start and then the timer seems to reset without the battle actually starting? Am I misunderstanding something?

Known issue
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683994/writhing-wall-event-known-issues#latest

You had all this time to make it worked right and it doesn't. I've spent a fortunes trying to get to places because no Stirk Wayshrine. I've wasted hours doing boring busywork that I can't accomplish. If I ever go into Entilias Folly again I hope its not this century.

Think I'll give the rest of this disaster a miss.

I agree there is no Stirk Wayshrine. My work around is to own an inn room near a way shrine. Sugar Bowl inn room in RImmen works for me. If you don't own Northern Elsweyr chapter, then the Mara's Kiss inn room in Vulkhel Guard is also cheap (3000 gold, or free if you haven't already done the inn room quest) and near a way shrine. Anyway, travel to the outside of one of those, and then way shrine to where you want without paying fortunes.

I keep seeing this pop up. I know it's not ideal, but you guys do know that there is a boat right? there's also a portal to rivenspire right next to the wayshrine if you did the prologue quest.

Skorro · October 14

laniakea_0 wrote: »

Ingenon wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

E_Lucan wrote: »

This might be a silly question, but it's happened to me three times now that an event to "defend the camp" has started in a camp I was in, only for all the enemies to despawn in like two seconds. Is this meant to happen? We are waiting around for 15+ minutes for the camp event to start and then the timer seems to reset without the battle actually starting? Am I misunderstanding something?

Known issue
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683994/writhing-wall-event-known-issues#latest

You had all this time to make it worked right and it doesn't. I've spent a fortunes trying to get to places because no Stirk Wayshrine. I've wasted hours doing boring busywork that I can't accomplish. If I ever go into Entilias Folly again I hope its not this century.

Think I'll give the rest of this disaster a miss.

I agree there is no Stirk Wayshrine. My work around is to own an inn room near a way shrine. Sugar Bowl inn room in RImmen works for me. If you don't own Northern Elsweyr chapter, then the Mara's Kiss inn room in Vulkhel Guard is also cheap (3000 gold, or free if you haven't already done the inn room quest) and near a way shrine. Anyway, travel to the outside of one of those, and then way shrine to where you want without paying fortunes.

I keep seeing this pop up. I know it's not ideal, but you guys do know that there is a boat right? there's also a portal to rivenspire right next to the wayshrine if you did the prologue quest.

I think they're talking about leaving Stirk. The shrine there is bugged.

twisttop138 · October 14

WolfStark1 wrote: »

JumboWheat01 wrote: »

It took me over an hour yesterday to get 8 furs and I went all over the map to get away from the crowds. I did hear others say yesterday its better to group because when one gets it then it counts for all in group.

I would very much recommend grouping. We were getting our souls and fats and furs in a minute or less. Getting the boxes faster, unfortunately, let's you realize at a quicker pace how sad the rewards are. The multiple guild discords I'm in are matching the forums and reddit almost word for word. Not worth it. Poorly planned. We got ZOS'D. It's sad that the company name is used a descriptor for being screwed over.

Tornaad · October 14

Doggyears wrote: »

Is it intended for Walks-in-Ash to drop a spoiler about something that (I'm assuming) happens during Solstice questing?
Gabrielle's death

I'm doing story content in order of release, and still a little behind, so it was a bit of a shock to find out this way.

Technically if you are doing the siege quests, before the rest of the zone story, you are doing it out of order.

RaddlemanNumber7 · October 14

I'm spending a lot of time racing other players to get to the targets before they kill everything. This does not feel like a co-operative activity.

I've had to turn my graphics down to Medium to deal with the super-high zone population, but I'm still seeing a lot of black silhouettes at the siege camp fights. At least I can see the daedra there now.

And all the other stuff people have already mentioned.

So, not much fun.

Sarannah · October 14

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

I've had to turn my graphics down to Medium to deal with the super-high zone population, but I'm still seeing a lot of black silhouettes at the siege camp fights. At least I can see the daedra there now.

Always place your ESO graphic settings in such a way that it can handle the game's most heaviest loads. If you are having issues in heavily crowded areas already(black silhouettes), you should set your graphic settings even lower, as these issues will be even worse when in combat. Right now is actually a good time to test if your graphic settings have been consistently placed too high. This goes for everyone who may have lag/fps issues!

PS: Sorry for this not being exactly related to the topic, just wanted to respond to this.

laniakea_0 · October 14

Skorro wrote: »

laniakea_0 wrote: »

Ingenon wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

E_Lucan wrote: »

This might be a silly question, but it's happened to me three times now that an event to "defend the camp" has started in a camp I was in, only for all the enemies to despawn in like two seconds. Is this meant to happen? We are waiting around for 15+ minutes for the camp event to start and then the timer seems to reset without the battle actually starting? Am I misunderstanding something?

Known issue
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683994/writhing-wall-event-known-issues#latest

You had all this time to make it worked right and it doesn't. I've spent a fortunes trying to get to places because no Stirk Wayshrine. I've wasted hours doing boring busywork that I can't accomplish. If I ever go into Entilias Folly again I hope its not this century.

Think I'll give the rest of this disaster a miss.

I agree there is no Stirk Wayshrine. My work around is to own an inn room near a way shrine. Sugar Bowl inn room in RImmen works for me. If you don't own Northern Elsweyr chapter, then the Mara's Kiss inn room in Vulkhel Guard is also cheap (3000 gold, or free if you haven't already done the inn room quest) and near a way shrine. Anyway, travel to the outside of one of those, and then way shrine to where you want without paying fortunes.

I keep seeing this pop up. I know it's not ideal, but you guys do know that there is a boat right? there's also a portal to rivenspire right next to the wayshrine if you did the prologue quest.

I think they're talking about leaving Stirk. The shrine there is bugged.

so am I. I saw that the shrine doesn't work there, so I'm pointing out that there are other ways to leave the island without having to spend gold to do so.

laniakea_0 · October 14

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

I'm spending a lot of time racing other players to get to the targets before they kill everything. This does not feel like a co-operative activity.

I've had to turn my graphics down to Medium to deal with the super-high zone population, but I'm still seeing a lot of black silhouettes at the siege camp fights. At least I can see the daedra there now.

And all the other stuff people have already mentioned.

So, not much fun.

yeah. more instances would be nice so that there would be less players going after the same encounter

Skorro · October 14

laniakea_0 wrote: »

Skorro wrote: »

laniakea_0 wrote: »

Ingenon wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

E_Lucan wrote: »

This might be a silly question, but it's happened to me three times now that an event to "defend the camp" has started in a camp I was in, only for all the enemies to despawn in like two seconds. Is this meant to happen? We are waiting around for 15+ minutes for the camp event to start and then the timer seems to reset without the battle actually starting? Am I misunderstanding something?

Known issue
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683994/writhing-wall-event-known-issues#latest

You had all this time to make it worked right and it doesn't. I've spent a fortunes trying to get to places because no Stirk Wayshrine. I've wasted hours doing boring busywork that I can't accomplish. If I ever go into Entilias Folly again I hope its not this century.

Think I'll give the rest of this disaster a miss.

I agree there is no Stirk Wayshrine. My work around is to own an inn room near a way shrine. Sugar Bowl inn room in RImmen works for me. If you don't own Northern Elsweyr chapter, then the Mara's Kiss inn room in Vulkhel Guard is also cheap (3000 gold, or free if you haven't already done the inn room quest) and near a way shrine. Anyway, travel to the outside of one of those, and then way shrine to where you want without paying fortunes.

I keep seeing this pop up. I know it's not ideal, but you guys do know that there is a boat right? there's also a portal to rivenspire right next to the wayshrine if you did the prologue quest.

I think they're talking about leaving Stirk. The shrine there is bugged.

so am I. I saw that the shrine doesn't work there, so I'm pointing out that there are other ways to leave the island without having to spend gold to do so.

Oh apologies fam, looks like I'm the one not reading properly today 😅♥️

LarsS · October 14

For this to stay interesting you need to have more interesting drops. Why not copy the aniversary events with all motifs chapters!

shadoza · October 14

LarsS wrote: »

Its easy to do the farming quests if you group up, since you share drops.

Grouping is the problem not the solution. Grouping should not be allowed as it create congestion and tosses the respawn time off. We left several locations because groups were running circles around the spawn area. <==

wolfie1.0. · October 14

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

shadoza · October 15

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

DenverRalphy · October 15

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · October 15

Looks like the helm crafting daily is still broken. 😮‍💨

Araneae6537 · October 15

LarsS wrote: »

For this to stay interesting you need to have more interesting drops. Why not copy the aniversary events with all motifs chapters!

Yeah, I was excited the first day when I got some scattered Worm Cult papers from a daedra or cultist in a delve, but no furnishings since. The sporadic drop rate of vitrified souls and the other supplies one is sent for is rather tediously annoying. I’m happy to do more for an objective, but circling around the same area for something to respawn and probably drop nothing isn’t fun. The golden coffers too should have a guaranteed drop of SOMETHING good — such as a motif page or furnishing. The style material is nice to get though.

In contrast, I enjoyed the coffers more from the Undaunted event as I more often got motif pages or unique furnishings.

shadoza · October 15

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

Finedaible · October 15

shadoza wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

Soul Reaper pursuits. They are annoying to find active but I was able to complete them.

wolfie1.0. · October 15

shadoza wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

Anyone can do alchemy, or enchanting master writs. It may take a bit of a grind but with help from another player both csn be done pretty quick.

And with over a month left it should be possible to get a group finder going for a single trial to run on normal.

DenverRalphy · October 15

shadoza wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

You mentioned nothing about Solo being a requirement, only that they couldn't complete it because they didn't own the content pass. Even so, running solo.. that's a self imposed impediment. And anybody can do Alchemy/Enchanting master writs.

jfgribbin · October 15

At least today since the NA Xbox server finished maintenance; the drops on the dailies from Solstice camp have been worse than since the event first started. I did all of the Defend Camp dailies and only finished one vitrified souls daily. I arrived at each occurrence in time to fight at several of the soul reapers and then the main boss. I have killed trolls in Vvardenfell, all of them in Labyrinthian several times; in Western Skyrim, as well as several places actually marked by the quest and have earned no creature fat. Yesterday I was able to do the vitrified souls dailies along the same time as I did the camp defense. I was able to do the crafting quests quickly and then move on to do Twelve completions via six quests and then I was able to move to focusing on the quests that required all the traveling around which before today were the only ones that I had any issue with locating and completing. Whether it was creature fat or undead essence; I was at least able to get the fat if I circled an area for 2-3 respawns. But not today. As I write this I am still trying find any creature fats and it took actually going through the first couple of mobs of Crypts of Hearts 1 just to get undead essence. Yesterday the first room was giving what was needed. I have personally been enjoying the actual event. I have played since June 2019; I am CP1925; I have a character created for every race and for every class; if not two for some. I have never played any intentional PVP and I have never used the group finder for the dungeon. I don’t mind grinding to some degree; it helps pass the time. But make it make sense; and right now today it is not. @ZOS_Kevin

shadoza · October 15

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

Anyone can do alchemy, or enchanting master writs. It may take a bit of a grind but with help from another player both csn be done pretty quick.

And with over a month left it should be possible to get a group finder going for a single trial to run on normal. [/quote

No. Unless, ESO plans on handing him a master writ before he masters the craft, he cannot do one.
He won't pass the gate-keeping the groupers enforce. He does not have the gear nor the experience.

JeroenB · October 15

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

[...]

No. Unless, ESO plans on handing him a master writ before he masters the craft, he cannot do one.
He won't pass the gate-keeping the groupers enforce. He does not have the gear nor the experience.

You can buy an enchanting master writ from a random guild trader for two to three thousand gold? Or can your friend not level the skill enough to craft them in time?

shadoza · October 15

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

24 hours in.... and i honestly just feel like giving up.

Yes. I am done already. I help a friend because he wants the mount. Sadly, it looks like he won't be able to get it because he didn't buy the chapter. I haven't seen a soul reaper since last month. yeah . . .

You can complete the trial without the content pass or the soul reapers. Without the soul reapers, or any Solstice specific tasks, there are 21 objectives left.

A player cannot solo a trial and my friend cannot do Master Writs

5, 10 daily log in
100 each Coldharbor, beast daedra, human daedra
500 enemy
3 WB, 10 WB
5, 10, 15 Meridian lens
3, 10 dungeon boss
5, 10, 20 Stirk crafting jobs
5, 10, 20 Stirk supply jobs

What am I missing?

You mentioned nothing about Solo being a requirement, only that they couldn't complete it because they didn't own the content pass. Even so, running solo.. that's a self imposed impediment. And anybody can do Alchemy/Enchanting master writs.

I knew you would answer with " that's a self imposed impediment." because that seems to be your answer to everything.
How does one complete a master write when they do not have the crafts mastered? If you are going to answer "buy one from a guild" don't bother replying as that is as much non-sense as 'if you won't group that's on you.'

My point stands. My friend has not mastered crafting and does not have gear for trials. He cannot get the mount he is working toward. I should point it out to him before he puts in too much effort. He is going to be upset that he was conned into an event challenge he cannot win. He will probably stop playing, again.