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Riposte CP

WreckfulAbandon
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Riposte: When you block an attack from an enemy within 7 meters, your next direct damage attack made within 5 seconds deals 33% additional damage. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.

It's fun to get big hits with it but don't really see the balance. Do we really need more incentives for backbar blocking? Isn't the ability to tank big hits and immediately transition to offense enough of a reward? May even try it out on non blocking builds as 33% is a very large increase, but you will obviously get maximum value with S&B/Frost backbar. I just find it strongly incentivizes the "turtle till burst" meta that already dominates. Being rewarded with a 25k Power of the Light while holding block is just silly. At the very least, 5 seconds is too short a cooldown imo.
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  • MincMincMinc
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    Riposte: When you block an attack from an enemy within 7 meters, your next direct damage attack made within 5 seconds deals 33% additional damage. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.

    It's fun to get big hits with it but don't really see the balance. Do we really need more incentives for backbar blocking? Isn't the ability to tank big hits and immediately transition to offense enough of a reward? May even try it out on non blocking builds as 33% is a very large increase, but you will obviously get maximum value with S&B/Frost backbar. I just find it strongly incentivizes the "turtle till burst" meta that already dominates. Being rewarded with a 25k Power of the Light while holding block is just silly. At the very least, 5 seconds is too short a cooldown imo.

    How about we start with the monomyth problem first, since 99% of players are using it in PvP. Or the fact that you can survive anything with healing soul. Or the fact that zos gutted impen a while back forcing us to all use Rallying Cry to counteract the crit damage meta.

    TBH the 33% isnt much once you consider the other guy is also just blocking lol
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  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Historically the latest pay gated gear gets a few patch cycles of not being nerfed, so didn't mention Monomyth, but you are probably right about it. Healing Soul is strong but expensive, and the targeting if you are with even one other person can be problematic. In any case Scribed skills in general have a lot of value attached to them and naturally people without a burst heal were going to gravitate towards Healing Soul. Rallying Cry is ubiquitous, sure, don't disagree there.

    The one sentence you used to address Riposte actually proves my point, that S&B/Frost backbar is heavily incentivized in this burst meta (and in PvP in general) and doesn't need damage modifiers of 33% every 5 seconds to justify using.
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    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • MincMincMinc
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    Historically the latest pay gated gear gets a few patch cycles of not being nerfed, so didn't mention Monomyth, but you are probably right about it. Healing Soul is strong but expensive, and the targeting if you are with even one other person can be problematic. In any case Scribed skills in general have a lot of value attached to them and naturally people without a burst heal were going to gravitate towards Healing Soul. Rallying Cry is ubiquitous, sure, don't disagree there.

    The one sentence you used to address Riposte actually proves my point, that S&B/Frost backbar is heavily incentivized in this burst meta (and in PvP in general) and doesn't need damage modifiers of 33% every 5 seconds to justify using.

    Oh no I agree with you, its a crazy damage buff. Pretty sure they tried to take the damage buff off of power slam and throw it onto cp instead for some reason.

    After elsweyr ruining most weapon playstyles, I was happy to make the old reverb bash playstyle again until they removed the damage from power slam here.
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  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Yeah I guess my main point is that Monomyth and Healing Soul are used on a wide variety of builds. I'm fine with there being very strong mechanics/gear as long as most playstyles have access to comparable amounts of power. The turtle to acuity meta is so boring but also undeniably effective, and Riposte provides that playstyle a boost that I don't think it needs. Backbar blocking in general has enough going for it without this passive imo.

    Monomyth is no doubt gonna get slapped down one day, so everyone enjoy the capped crit damage while we have it :)
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    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • MincMincMinc
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    Yeah I guess my main point is that Monomyth and Healing Soul are used on a wide variety of builds. I'm fine with there being very strong mechanics/gear as long as most playstyles have access to comparable amounts of power. The turtle to acuity meta is so boring but also undeniably effective, and Riposte provides that playstyle a boost that I don't think it needs. Backbar blocking in general has enough going for it without this passive imo.

    Monomyth is no doubt gonna get slapped down one day, so everyone enjoy the capped crit damage while we have it :)

    The only counter to acuity is being 29m away lol.

    I just know that something like riposte will be taken out of context after a while of being forgotten and removed instead of placed back to Sword and shield powerslam.
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