Low FPS while playing with a GTX 760

GrimMauKin

I've just upgraded to a GXT760 from an AMD Radeon 6870. I'm getting around 65 fps outdoors dropping to about 30 in cities (although without the frame counter running I can't visually see a difference). What should I be expecting?

I've got a 2.6 Ghz i5 processor and 12Gb memory (which doesn't mean much with a 32 bit program).

Chomag

GrimMauKin wrote: »

I've just upgraded to a GXT760 from an AMD Radeon 6870. I'm getting around 65 fps outdoors dropping to about 30 in cities (although without the frame counter running I can't visually see a difference). What should I be expecting?

I've got a 2.6 Ghz i5 processor and 12Gb memory (which doesn't mean much with a 32 bit program).

The problem is not with you. The game's engine is poorly optimized and it doesn't matter how powerful your rig is, the game just doesn't use all the available resources.

You, me and many others have this same issue: poor fps, below what our machines are capable of, while CPU and GPU monitors show them being used at barely above 50%.

Until ZOS fixes the poor optimization there is nothing we can do about it, and throwing more money on PC parts is pointless as it's not the PC that is the issue.

Rift had the same problem, mind you, but then then the Gamebryo engine is legendary for its bad optimization. I hope this won't be the case for ESO as I don't see myself playing it if it is.

Zorak

So...no official words yet ? =(

mcmozes

since yesterday iam on 12fps before i had around 60 and 40 in citys and sieges using oced gtx470 i5 4ghz and 8gb ram its crazy my cpu gets used to only 25% the gpu load is on 56-60% and i only get 12 fps high settings days before yesterdayy it did run on stable 60fps

rlaurengeb16_ESO

I'm gonna try to contact ZoS directly via customer support regarding this issue. Still no official word on this problem and it's getting kinda annoying... I experienced fps drop to around 21fps yesterday in some crowded cities (not even the biggest ones) this is not acceptable.

I seriously hope they're working on this.

Socratic

I think the problem lies within the CPU, as it seems not enough data is being processed for the graphics card to render to it's full potential. I haven't done checks myself but it seem to me that the game isn't multi-threading properly, but I can't be sure without testing.

krilleyy95

Some of you are sitting with very bad, or very old cpus with new graphic cards, and therefore the CPU will bottleneck everything..

Zorak

Socratic wrote: »

I think the problem lies within the CPU, as it seems not enough data is being processed for the graphics card to render to it's full potential. I haven't done checks myself but it seem to me that the game isn't multi-threading properly, but I can't be sure without testing.

krilleyy95 wrote: »

Some of you are sitting with very bad, or very old cpus with new graphic cards, and therefore the CPU will bottleneck everything..

That doesn't seems to be the case.

And btw..what do you mean with "very old cpus" ? 10 years old cpus ? 2 ?

Even a 3+ years old CPU plus a gtx760/780 on low settings, not even 1080p, would run this game with a constant 30+ fps.

But I'm seeing many ppl with descent CPUs and high end GPUs getting very low and unstable fps.

I'm getting lower fps with my brand new GTX780 than with my old GTX285.

Sorry, but I'm positively sure that isn't bottleneck.

Edit: And both, my GPU and CPU, never even reached 60% load.

SaycoDevil

Hey guys

I apologize for never replying on this thread while I was working on figuring out this problem.
I posted this same topic on tomshardware.com, here is the link:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2092956/low-fps-gtx-760.html

They solved my problem and hopefully it can help you guys out as well. Sorry for the super late post.

Goretex

my graphics are old i just dunno what to upgrade to, I'm not vid card savvy. I want the best shiz, but i'm also on a budget. You guys are lucky, in this game I hover around 10 fps and peaked once at 23 fps lol.

Rasly

SaycoDevil wrote: »

I also re-installed win 8.1

that is the problem rgiht here

Seriosily, this game got some bad graphic problems, i have noticed that there are some places in game where some "smoke like effect" is used and this effect totaly kills the performance (will drop it from more then 60 fps to 10 fps), seems to be happening when you look on this effect directly, also it seems that some player models or effects have similar effect, but in this case it seems like it dosn't matter if you see this player or not.

ESO could use some realy good quality check in there.

RunAway

Goretex wrote: »

my graphics are old i just dunno what to upgrade to, I'm not vid card savvy. I want the best shiz, but i'm also on a budget. You guys are lucky, in this game I hover around 10 fps and peaked once at 23 fps lol.

Get a gtx 760, cost me £150, will likely be about $200-$220. You can check google to see what FPS you'll get in games, but for reference, in Crysis 3, you'll get 30-35 FPS with max settings.

RunAway

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Nazaan

Having read a lot of performance threads now I am seeing a pattern in CPU usage (mine included) 30 to 50% bearing in mind that if you are not moving the CPU has to do less.

So if the CPU usage is capped (for any of a number of reasons) then it's not going to matter if you have a better Graphics card as 50% of a weak CPU isn't going to feed your GPU enough. You have an old dual core right? That's going to be your problem.

I thInk the game has been made to use a set amount of CPU resource and the rest of the system is waiting on it.

Apokh

RunAway wrote: »

Get a gtx 760, cost me £150, will likely be about $200-$220. You can check google to see what FPS you'll get in games, but for reference, in Crysis 3, you'll get 30-35 FPS with max settings.

Recommending a Nvidia Card at this time, where all the Community is crying about the poor performance (obviously most affecting NV-GPUs) is probably not a good recommendation I guess.

(although also a lot NV-Users do not seem to be affected)

festivalsb14_ESO

Can someone please tell me why TESO is not utilizing all 4 cores of my processor? From what I can gather it does not matter how many cores you have because the game is only stressing 2 cores.

Veggiemon

On a 2x GTX 780 (TOP cards btw), I still get some graphical lag sometimes I'll be wondering around somewhere and it seems like the game is asleep on me lol... I've got the game installed on an SSD card, system has 32 gigs of ram.. Intel 6 core @ 4.3 GHZ. Basically top performing machine.

Oh and doesn't seem to matter what graphical settings I'm running either.

I've got another system with a single 780.. system specs are lower but otherwise same result.

rlaurengeb16_ESO

At this point, I'm not seeing any acknowledgment from ZOS, they're probably too occupied on the console version of the game, and I'm starting to wonder if they read this forum at all.

Even worse is that they seem to not care at all for higher end rig users.

We're in 2014 and I have the feeling to play a game with such poor optimization that if It was back in 2000, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

And they expect people to pay subs for a game where we can't play in the best condition ? that's funny if they think that customers are dumb enough.

Only 12 days left on "free" launch month, and I've been playing the BETA all over again since early access. That's a shame, cause ESO has much potential and promises, but in the end, the obvious lack of concern for users is gonna be their downfall.

smokorwb17_ESO

I run the game with I7 980x @4.5ghx with a 290x at 2560x1440p everything maxed out

I have experienced utilization cpu/gpu anywhere from 50-100% and fps as low as 30-80 fps with can be typical for any game depending on the environment being rendered at the time, but less consistency I guess.

Anyhow kinda reminds me of Rifts game engine just not as bad.

But I have to say I haven't noticed any stuttering of any sort.

Luis.maia.sousab16_ESO

Just so it's clear, this is not an issue with ESO, but a problem with drivers from NVIDIA. But yes, they should acknowledge the problem and give a reply, i wrote them an email about this, and never even gotten a reply.

WylieCoyote1511

Don't see anywhere to select high performance nvidia processor?

Luis.maia.sousab16_ESO

I have been doing a bit of research on this subject, and have compiled all the information i could find. I leave you the link bellow:

http://www.tesoelite.com/forums/threads/fix-stuttering-low-framerate-and-fps-drops.3537/

If you like these forums, please use my link to register, and hope this information helps, altogether it fixed my problems.

Follow this link to register:

http://www.tesoelite.com/forums/rf/?c=EDC90C41

rlaurengeb16_ESO

Ok so after trying many things, here's what my Nvidia control Panel looks like after tweaking for ESO.

I should also say that I unparked all my cores but this was already done before the game launch and I had troubles nonetheless.

I use the latest Nvidia drivers.

After these tweaks my GPU is finally kicking and using 90% capacity. HUGE difference in the open areas where fps is more steady and goes around 50-80fps, not so much in the cities where fps still drops around 30 fps.

Haven't had the chance to try in Cyrodiil yet.




These tweaks are not perfect but at least It improves the gaming experience a little bit. I hope Zenimax and Nvidia will be able to figure out how to correct this, cause we shouldn't have to do this sort of manipulation for the game to run smoothly !

reActionHank

I would like to give my 2 cents on the situation.

My PC specs are:
Gigabyte GTX 770 2GB
Intel i7 3770 3.40 Ghz
P8ZZ7 - M Motherboard
8 GB RAM
Windows 8.1 64bit
Driver version:337.50 (beta)

All the components have been benchmarked and test above their baseline.

I run the game at High preset (not Ultra), water quality off, v-sync off, view distance 70. I get 90-100 fps in dungeons, 70-80 fps outside, 40-55 in cities. The problem is that in PvP, in large scale battles, frames tend to drop to 25-30 (which is the main problem). The frames are relatively similar to what I was experiencing with my GTX 660, which I changed about a week after ESO launch.

The CPU doesn't go above 40-50% usage, GPU goes to about 60-70% max, memory usage is at about 50%

I have tested the game with Windows 7, optimized the settings in the Nvidia control panel, unparked all cores and even OC the GPU and CPU out of curiosity - no change in frame rate even at 4.40 Ghz. The only thing that made a difference is the beta drivers, which improved the frame rates somewhat.

I have to conclude that the only way we will see improvement is either with new Nvidia drivers, ESO updates or combination of both.

Socratic

Since max

reActionHank wrote: »

I get 90-100 fps in dungeons, 70-80 fps outside, 40-55 in cities.

This seems to be the FPS just about everyone is getting on average with higher mainstream or enthusiast level rigs. I'm now guessing it could possibly be caused by a limiting factor coming from server side?

reActionHank

The curious thing is that people with the exact same/very similar hardware specs are running the game with different frame rates. For example a guild mate has the same GPU and CPU as me and on Ultra video preset (mine is only high) he says he doesn't drop below 50 fps in Cyrodill large scale battle, whereas I get to 20-25 fps.

The only main component that differs is our motherboards, is it possible that it might me causing an issue?

Perseas

U have to read NVIDIA forums, nvidia must be very frustrated, people asking from nvidia to fix ESO (fullscreen and fps). And in a couple of comments, NVIDIA says that the ESO developers deactivated fullscreen mode... deliberately for their own reasons...

because people asking nvidia to fix that!

My personal problem is, I cannot have shadowplay and my fps dropped 150% compared with the beta! Beta was flowless!

I have gtx 780 and I run it with 27-33 fps and some times (rare) 50-60... In the beta I was 80 and some times 130

sociald100ub17_ESO

The most recent NVidia drivers do address some issues with 700 and 700 series cards. I have a GTX 660oc and I don't have a problem and that's on ultra. 50-67 frames outside 27-50 in the city and generally 25-40 in big pvp.
I would clean install the drivers if you have a problem and have the 700 and 800 cards. I also haven't used AMD vid in quite awhile so no answer there.

vital1989

sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »

The most recent NVidia drivers do address some issues with 700 and 700 series cards. I have a GTX 660oc and I don't have a problem and that's on ultra. 50-67 frames outside 27-50 in the city and generally 25-40 in big pvp.
I would clean install the drivers if you have a problem and have the 700 and 800 cards. I also haven't used AMD vid in quite awhile so no answer there.

27-50 in town 25-
40 in big pvp And you say u dont have problem?lol this is crap fps tbh

vital1989

I7 4770k asus gtx 780 8g ram 1600 35-60 in town 25-35 in very very big pvp 60-75 in pve (vsync on, 75 hertz monitor)