Daily endeavours locked behind a paywall...

Rittings

Whilst I like the addition of the endeavour system, I have guildies that do not own any DLCs and are just enjoying the game... but when 2 out of hte 5 endeavours are hidden behind paywalls, it leaves little option but to PVP today.

I think a max of 1 endeavour should be elected, or for goodness sake put some stone atronachs in the one place you say they can be found... I don't like having to explain to your customers that yes, I know stone atronachs suggest Craglorn, but actually there aren't any there... or in fact, only 1 exists in the entire base game and thats a trial boss that youu'll need to defeat 5 times to get the reward.

Veinblood1965

I've thought about this for a while now. It really comes down to at this point a high percentage of the game involves DLC ownership versus base game activities. It's just the facts and tailoring things to base game players to be able to complete every perk isn't going to happen as comes down to profits. People need to be incentivized to purchase extra content so the extra income can pay employees to create new content. It's not a smart economic move to make content that relies on zero profit.

Sucks that that is the reality of it. There is usually something they can do to get the endeavor like PVP as you stated but not all the time but it's enough. As for the PVP.....Just put a LFG up in a PVP zone, join a group, grab a ballista and kill a player then leave PVP for the day. It's quicker than some of the other endeavors really.

Agreed on the stone attronachs, almost as fun as finding thieves guild chests.

jhall03

I guess paying more than $5 (base game price) is too much for 11 years of content for some people.

twisttop138

jhall03 wrote: »

I guess paying more than $5 (base game price) is too much for 11 years of content for some people.

It's insanely affordable. I now have a 2nd account so the wife and I can finally play together. We've been sharing for like 7 years. After making the account the package with West weald and every chapter the game put out was something like 27 dollars US. That's a hell of a deal. I'm not sure if that was offered international but I would certainly hope so. Now there are of course people that can ot afford it and that's totally ok. But they can't make every endeavor base game cause some people can't get it. Thankfully they could pvp for their endeavor. I would very much hope that there is always 1 daily and weekly everyone can do.

Cooperharley

The game has been out for 11 years, so the likelihood that every single thing is going to be base game is just not realistic and your friends should assume that too. There is an insane amount of content in the game and if we were stuck just only doing base game content, it'd get old quickly IMO.

valenwood_vegan

Yes the stone atronach endeavor is not a great one given the limited options, and it does not properly explain to players where these can be found.

But expecting all of the endeavors to be base game, and/or to cater to every player's content preferences every day, is completely unrealistic. 3 of the endeavors *can* be completed with access to only the base game, if one wants to put forth the effort to do them.

If one of the choices isn't appealing or doesn't seem worth the effort... you can skip it. The world will keep on turning and there will be more tomorrow.

(And in fact to be technical about it, there is a stone atronach in Aetherian Archive, which is base game. Not that I'd want to do it five times, that's way too much work for a daily endeavor, but it's there. I do again agree that the stone atronach endeavor is a poor one).

Dojohoda

The Ole Stone Atronach endeavor, if you have access to Murkmire or Blackwood, here's a way:

Find a Miregaunt->
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Miregaunt

There are several miregaunts in Murkmire and few in Blackwood.

When you find one, (disable all pets, procs, companions) light attack the Miregaunt until it creates its totems. Kill the totems as they spawn, don't attack Miregaunt anymore if you need more than 2 stone atronachs, block, heal yourself and run around killing totems until endeavor is done.

The totems of the Miregaunt are the stone atronachs.

majulook

The Voskrona Guardians in Solstice count as Stone Atronachs
They are plentiful and fairly easy to kill. They look kind of like greenish block creatures (maybe the designer was a Minecraft fan)


Voskrona Guardians are Argonian statues that have been animated by magicka. They can be found on Solstice, around the places they were designed to protect and will activate if they detect a threat.

SilverBride

The World Boss Walks-Like-Thunder in Murkmire spawns some Totems during his fight. These totems count as Stone Atronachs.

Tandor

Did I miss the ToS change where they made completion of 3 daily and 1 weekly Endeavours mandatory? I get that some players don't have all the DLCs but so what? Do people really expect to be able to play the whole game when they only own part of it?

I often only do one or two daily Endeavours and only rarely do the weekly Endeavour because the rest of the options just don't fit my playstyle or appeal to me, but I don't have a problem with that.

JavaRen

Edit: forget my previous advice, bad memorry. Or drugs.

Elvenheart

Tandor wrote: »

Did I miss the ToS change where they made completion of 3 daily and 1 weekly Endeavours mandatory? I get that some players don't have all the DLCs but so what? Do people really expect to be able to play the whole game when they only own part of it?

I often only do one or two daily Endeavours and only rarely do the weekly Endeavour because the rest of the options just don't fit my playstyle or appeal to me, but I don't have a problem with that.

Yes, under the TOS in VERY small print it now says that doing the Endeavors are mandatory and if you don’t complete them someone that day will frown at you. 😉

FeedbackOnly

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Yes the stone atronach endeavor is not a great one given the limited options, and it does not properly explain to players where these can be found.

But expecting all of the endeavors to be base game, and/or to cater to every player's content preferences every day, is completely unrealistic. 3 of the endeavors *can* be completed with access to only the base game, if one wants to put forth the effort to do them.

If one of the choices isn't appealing or doesn't seem worth the effort... you can skip it. The world will keep on turning and there will be more tomorrow.

(And in fact to be technical about it, there is a stone atronach in Aetherian Archive, which is base game. Not that I'd want to do it five times, that's way too much work for a daily endeavor, but it's there. I do again agree that the stone atronach endeavor is a poor one).

Aren't they in craglorn? Maybe dark anchors, surely imperial city too

Fiennes

Sorry, but for an 11yr old game where the DLC is very affordable, you shouldn't really pop on here and say it's "behind a paywall". Those guildies that are "just enjoying the game" I'm guessing aren't very invested in it.

Thysbe

I mean if there were endeavors like "open 15 crown crates" you could cry about a paywall...

with crown trading you don´t even need cash to buy some of the older DLCs

LootAllTheStuff

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Yes the stone atronach endeavor is not a great one given the limited options, and it does not properly explain to players where these can be found.

But expecting all of the endeavors to be base game, and/or to cater to every player's content preferences every day, is completely unrealistic. 3 of the endeavors *can* be completed with access to only the base game, if one wants to put forth the effort to do them.

If one of the choices isn't appealing or doesn't seem worth the effort... you can skip it. The world will keep on turning and there will be more tomorrow.

(And in fact to be technical about it, there is a stone atronach in Aetherian Archive, which is base game. Not that I'd want to do it five times, that's way too much work for a daily endeavor, but it's there. I do again agree that the stone atronach endeavor is a poor one).

Aren't they in craglorn? Maybe dark anchors, surely imperial city too

The endeavour tip says that, but I don't remember ever finding one there, at least not in the region where you find all the other atronachs. The UESP Wiki page mentions various group dungeons and the pillars spawned by the Murkmire Miregaunts but, unless I'm missing something, doesn't list a Craglorn location.

Edit: Missed seeing Bloodroot Forge and Aetherian Archive in Craglorn. Not as easy as, say, the ice, fire, or storm atronach endeavours.

DenverRalphy

You'd think that since Totems count as stone atro's, then the Gargoyles in Craglorn would count too. But nope.

Reverb

It’s funny that this post is to complain about Endeavors locked behind DLCs and people respond by suggesting different DLC areas.

They’re in Murkmire! They’re in Blackwood! There’s some in Solstice!

Yeah, none of these are part of the base game. That was their point in making this post.

SpiritKitten

For pvp, just go to a low pop campaign, head to a resource, and set up a meatbag catapult.

allochthons

To add to the list, the High Isle world bosses at Aminos Basin, Rosara the Theurge and Skerard the Theurge, spawn stone atros as adds.

All the recommendations for stone atros in Murkmire and Blackwood are welcome, but those are still not base game without ESO+. The other day when the endeavors were Stone Atros and Heal with Scribed Abilities was rough for my alt basic no DLC/no ESO+ account.

AFAIK, there are zero stone atros in the base, no ESO+ game. I'd love to hear differently.

SilverBride

Reverb wrote: »

It’s funny that this post is to complain about Endeavors locked behind DLCs and people respond by suggesting different DLC areas.

I think it's nice that information is being suggested on where to find these because it will help all players.

DenverRalphy

SilverBride wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

It’s funny that this post is to complain about Endeavors locked behind DLCs and people respond by suggesting different DLC areas.

I think it's nice that information is being suggested on where to find these because it will help all players.

To be fair, there are already a bajillion other "Where can I find Stone Atros" posts. Posting those kind of replies in this thread is technically derailing and taking it off topic. Regardless whether they can technically help all players.

[edit] But then too, so does this reply. So I digress.

NoticeMeArkay

Am I the only one receiving information about the location of mobs, in this case stone atronachs, when hovering the mouse over the endeavor? This thread reads like that is the case.

UrQuan

Reverb wrote: »

It’s funny that this post is to complain about Endeavors locked behind DLCs and people respond by suggesting different DLC areas.

They’re in Murkmire! They’re in Blackwood! There’s some in Solstice!

Yeah, none of these are part of the base game. That was their point in making this post.

That's true, but for people who were around when Murkmire was given away for free, Murkmire isn't behind a paywall... Although it is for people who weren't around back then.

UrQuan

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Am I the only one receiving information about the location of mobs, in this case stone atronachs, when hovering the mouse over the endeavor? This thread reads like that is the case.

Hovering the mouse over the endeavor tells you that stone atronachs can be found in Craglorn, but that's very misleading because none can be found overland in Craglorn, the only places in Craglorn where they can be found are Aetherian Archive (a 12-man trial that only has 1 stone atronach in it), and a DLC group dungeon. So there's exactly 1 stone atronach in Craglorn that isn't behind a paywall, and you need to do a 12-man trial to kill it.

DenverRalphy

UrQuan wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Am I the only one receiving information about the location of mobs, in this case stone atronachs, when hovering the mouse over the endeavor? This thread reads like that is the case.

Hovering the mouse over the endeavor tells you that stone atronachs can be found in Craglorn, but that's very misleading because none can be found overland in Craglorn, the only places in Craglorn where they can be found are Aetherian Archive (a 12-man trial that only has 1 stone atronach in it), and a DLC group dungeon. So there's exactly 1 stone atronach in Craglorn that isn't behind a paywall, and you need to do a 12-man trial to kill it.

5 Times at that.

sarahthes

The base game consists of about 20% of the game's total content. It's unrealistic to restrict endeavors that much.

spartaxoxo

As long as 3 of them can be completed base game each day, which is mostly the case, then I don't see an issue.

LootAllTheStuff

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Am I the only one receiving information about the location of mobs, in this case stone atronachs, when hovering the mouse over the endeavor? This thread reads like that is the case.

On console the only hint I saw was that they can be found in Craglorn, but not *where* in Craglorn. Which is a problem because, as far as I can tell, they only occur in a couple of dungeons there of which only one is in the base game.

sarahthes

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Am I the only one receiving information about the location of mobs, in this case stone atronachs, when hovering the mouse over the endeavor? This thread reads like that is the case.

On console the only hint I saw was that they can be found in Craglorn, but not *where* in Craglorn. Which is a problem because, as far as I can tell, they only occur in a couple of dungeons there of which only one is in the base game.

Perhaps there are some in delves?

Blood_again

DenverRalphy wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

So there's exactly 1 stone atronach in Craglorn that isn't behind a paywall, and you need to do a 12-man trial to kill it.

5 Times at that.

I'm intrigued, how many AA groups got some players left after Foundation Stone killed that day.
Considering the popularity of gameplay "optimizations" like fake roles, headless fastruns etc, I won't be suprised if there were many of them.
Especially nice for AA, that requires full 12-player group to progress even on normal.